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What makes the difference? Pt 2

What makes the difference? Pt 2
What makes the difference? Pt 2

Following on from What makes the difference Pt1

Lets use Newcrapstle as an example of what a club has to offer when trying to tempt a player. Both clubs have under achieved in recent years although we have lifted a couple of trophies in the SKY era. Villa have a better history and tradition of success. Both are owned by billionaires and are trying to break into the top four. Both have managers who many feel should be England manager, although I am happier with M'ON than I be would be with Big Sam. Location wise I think many would agree that being in Birmingham has more advantages than being in the North East, although I except this would be disagreed with by some.

The best indication of this is that not many players, other than local ones, having played for Newcastle, have decided to move there. Unlike the likes of Andy Townsend, Dennis Mortimer, Des Bremner, Andy Gray and many more, who having in lived in Birmingham decided to make this their home. Newcrapstle have been shown though, to push the boat out on salaries with Michael Owen being a perfect example. Fans wise Newcrapstle sell out nearly every home game and St James Park is perceived as being a great arena in which to play football. Villa Park is a great venue but nowhere near as big and
nowhere near as full, as often. So taking this scenario one step further and using Shaun Wright Phillips as an example, who would he choose if both Villa and the barcodes were attempting to sign him. History and tradition is edged by Villa, would this be a determining factor in making him sign. I think not!

Location? Villa could edge this because it would still give him easy access to family in London. But would this be enough to secure a signature? Again probably not! Future success? Both clubs could probably state a case of them potentially breaking into the top four in the near future!

Salary? It is reported (damn press) that he would be looking to match the 60K a week he is on at Chelski. This would exceed what Villa are currently paying the top earner (apparently GB on 50K per week) but is well below what the Barcodes have paid!

Fan experience and audience reception? I would suggest that the Geordies have been more appreciative and supporting of their team in recent seasons than we have? The deciding factor I would suggest could be the fans and on that we would miss out on the player. In this day and age of many clubs having similar finances we have to look at our strengths.

Location isn't one, the chance of honours is no better than many clubs and much worse than some. We are not the biggest payers. M'ON is vital in the future for convincing players to come to VP. However I think that as fans we have to step up to the plate and make VP a place where players want to play. If we do not make it a place that strikes fear into the opposition then the only difference between us and the rest is M'ON. And he will not be around for ever. And maybe if he can't convince great players to come to VP then he might not stick around as long as we would like.

If we can not fill VP every week and make it one of the great venues in world football, then we really can have no one to blame if we miss out on the best transfer targets ....... except ourselves.

Article by voiceoftheholte

Writer:J P Fear
Date:Wednesday June 20 2007
Time: 2:01PM


Got any more good news voice? see what your saying here but we also have a new training ground, nike link up gives players great commercial opportunities, we have an international airport should they need to fly home or for internationals. Good support would help but IMHO money does the loudest talking.
20/06/2007 17:28:00
I agree VOTH butmoney does do the loudest talking the way to get the players to join us is a higher signing-on fee fo when the player signs and still if the player is set on staying in london or somewere like madrid and barcelona then its up to the player but all this off field work will help us the new training ground which is basically the same as arsenals i think and nike sponsership new badge new kit proud history bright future!UTV! just hope MON and RL can perswade all the players he wants that WILL improve the team to join the Best football club in the midlands:)
20/06/2007 19:03:00
You've hit the nail very much on the head voice. The supporters absolutely have to stand up and be counted now. Despite the offer of cut price season tickets in the North Stand, and sales of tickets reportedly going through the roof for other areas of the stadium, I still suspect that we will fail to fill VP more often than not come the new campaign.
20/06/2007 21:46:00
Thanks for the sentiment Glensider. Unfortunately I agree with your views on how often we will fill the stadium. But supposed fans will still make excuses for not buying tickets but will still try to convince any one who will listen that we are a big club. Surely a 'big' club, in the countrys second most populated city, with the best training facilities, a great stadium, the manager the fans wanted, a progressive and dynamic board, a team full of internationals and home grown youth, one of the best pricing (if not the best) policys in the country would need a stadium of at least 250,000 capacity to fit everyone in. Nah ......... even 42,000 is to big for us it appears.
21/06/2007 10:01:00
I probably mention this before but in my 31 years of being a Villa fan the only time i remember Villa park being full week in week out is when we've been in the top 3 places, i think every team has some glory hunters.
chris the villan
21/06/2007 10:22:00
It seems then the common consensus is money. The responses on here and on the forums suggest that if we pay enough money then that will be enough to convince most players to join us. Which in effect brings me to the whole point I was attempting to make. Salarys is the issue that is killing the game with many clubs (ourselves included)paying out over half of our turnover in wages. No business can survive for long when the salarys outstrip the turnover. However fans on here and the forums are suggesting that we should pay even more money on salarys. Where is this coming from? At 18,000 season tickets so far, generating approximately 6 million, enough for a Marlon Harewood but not for a NRC, it certainly isn't the fans. It is no good pointing to TV money because everybody is getting this. The only difference between clubs is the fans and (The Ellis years are predominantly to blame) we are found wanting in this department. You get what is deserved in life and as fans what we deserve is lower mid table. We can, but we do not make the difference and that often means that our owners/managers are working with one arm tied behind their back. Until fans are fighting to get in to VP and the atmosphere is one that invigorises home players and intimidates visiting players and supporters this isn't going to change. From the owners, directors, manager, players, marketing, ticketing staff and fans and everyone that makes a football club, the only ones not pulling their weight are the fans. And as the article highlights, it is us that can make the difference because the playing field is so similar for every club. By the time the season starts the following clubs are likely to have sold more season tickets than us if we sell 25,000. Manure, Chelski, Redscouse, Arse, Bluescouse, Spuds, West Sham, Newcrapstle, Mackemland and Derby. We will be punching above our weight if we finish in the top half.
22/06/2007 10:09:00
We have right now about 33,000 diehard supporters who will be the basis of our home attendance figures, add to that the away support, and I suspect that VP will see gates averaging around 36,000 this season. Not good enough.
28/09/2007 13:11:00
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