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O'Neill & Randy Will Sort The Villa



Vital Villa asked, in a poll suggested by thegreatdando, what you thought, in a half time report, of Martin O'Neill and Randy Lerner.

In truth it is a bit early to start making judgements of any sort but hey ho, they'll be pleased to see they have 76% backing with 'they'll sort the Villa'.

15% said it was too early to make a judgement.

7% said the wheels are beginning to fall off.

2% think it is another false dawn, which is a bit surprising as they've not even started yet have they?

So there you go, most are happy and sure that the new guys will get things sorted, others are sitting on the fence to make their judgements later.

Our latest poll is asking if you'd like a new club crest.
The Journalist

Writer: J P Fear Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday January 16 2007

Time: 12:48PM

Your Comments

Only briefly in the last 100 years has anybody got it right at VP, so passing any sort of judgement after a few months seems crazy. With limited opportunity to buy players or make changes, Martin O'Neill has only just begun what is going be a tough job. As for Randy Lerner, all I know is that you don't spend 64 million on acquiring anything, if you don't have ambition. Yes we're desperate for success but we're kidding ourselves if we think it's going happen overnight. Chelsea may have been in debt when Ambromvich took over, but Ken Bates had left them in a much better condition football wise, than Ellis left us. From a football perspective MON has had to start from the back of the grid and it will be the summer before he can really get to work. UTV.
Stevew
Glad the poll got this result - but to date you have to say that there is a lot of blind trust rather than strong evidence of improvement. Maybe the poll would have been better after the summer transfer window but at present we seem to have more emphasis on badges and pies than definite team improvement - which is really what we all want. OK so there have been no large transfers anywhere in this window yet and clubs are looking at the extra money available from Sky next year and doing everything to make sure they are in the Premiership at the right time - hence little movement. But we are supposedly trying to catch up and I hope we see some imagination and bravery soon that will take this club forward and not leave it in the position where it is now. I know this take time but we need to make a start soon.
Gordonsleftboot
I agree entirely with the above two comments from Gordon and Steve but it is too early to judge whether Randy & Co can take us back to the top within the next few years. I feel that 90%+ of the fans will be fully behind the Club if they we can see solid progress and improved performance "year-on-year". I see on the Villa website today that MON Is aiming to be challenging for Europe next season. If he achieves this, it will be a massive achievement. The attention to infrastructure ie Bodymoor Heath, the Holte, better coms. with fans and catering, are, I am sure, very much welcome but I just hope that MON will be allowed to "splash out" on one 10mill+ signing (SWP?), at least to prove to everyone, especially to other potential player signings, later this year, that we are moving forward at last and have owners with real ambition.
villacross
ken bates was within 24hrs of putting chelsea out of business so although ellis was guilty of many things, im sure the club was left on a much healthier financial footing than that of chelski
JASON
In my opinion Villa were less than 12 months away from Receivership, when Ellis sold out. They were losing 1mill every month, 10mill debts, no manager and players wanting to leave the Club, and certain demotion in prospect within 1 year. Yes, Ellis did a tremendous job!
villacross
calm guys!! ellis didnt spend any money and had no risk but we were the 20th richest club in the world for turnover which is not bad when he left. lets jus hope randy can better that and still put plenty of money in! up the villa!
GABBY16
Jason, when Chelsea won the FA Cup in 2000, did debts matter to their supporters? No. They got the trophy we didn't. And that's what makes a football club. I've yet to hear any supporter chanting for their clubs balance sheet or paying for tickets because their the 20th richest etc. Winning football matches and trophies is all that matters to supporters and Randy has given us hope, that we might at least compete again.
Stevew
Ellis was a parasite im so happy that bsatrad has gone long live randy
chris the villan
Way, way, way too early to begin criticism of the new regime. They weren't even afforded the luxury of setting off their bright, brave new era on an equal footing, the club had stagnated for so long. They need the support of the masses.
glensider
as i've said on another thread gordonsleftboot, the fact the marketing department are looking at the crest, or people are looking at catering, DOES NOT effect team re-building at all, totally different departments. Of course we all want to see players incoming, we need the excitement and that is the main priority, but at the moment things have to be on faith as they haven't had time to really make an impact but the start has been refreshing and we should show some patience, not as if the last lot were exactly taking us anywhere fast now is it? The transfer window is as frustrating for the manager as us but it isn't over yet, one or two key signings, maybe one or two stop gaps and we'll be ok for the rest of hte season and see some major movement in the summer. Maybe this time next year would be the time that we can really start to judge? 6 months following 2 decades?
The Fear
JF-I absolutely agree. We all need to stop moaning (me included) and try to empathises with MON, I'm sure he's just as p**'d of as we. Give him and Randy time, at least another year or two. Then we can judge overall improvements in all areas of the Club-both on and off-fiel.
villacross
Gabby-you're probably correct but most of those 20 were in the Premiership. But turnover or net assets are irrelevant. The only way to measure success at a football club is "trophies won" - with good commercial management, that will determine the two performance criteria to which you refer. Ellis's reign for over 30 years in total was undoubtedly the worst period in the Clubs 130 year history.- We won a single first division championship plus 3 league cups. Admittedly we had financial solvency until 2003, but since them, it was "fast-forward to oblivion". Thank God that Randy appeared when he did.
villacross
I want success and I want it now and if I don't get it them I am going to scream and scream until I am sick and I can you know. We seem to be going over old ground so many times. We all think we can put the boot into Ellis (rightly so on most things). I do not need to be reminded of the mess he left us in and the things he did wrong. However the take over by Randy is similar to the takeover by Ellis in 1968. And for all his faults the work done over the next few years put the foundations in place to enable us to conquer Europe. The big difference this time around is that the fans are being involved and consulted. The crest, in the big scheme of things isn't that important but it is nice to be asked. I like that the marketing team are trying different initiatives on ticketing. The free travel to Chelsea, the Holte Hotel, the work on Bodymoor Heath show that certain departments are really getting their act together. Unfortunately the team building is going to take time, but we knew that. I believe that only West Sham have made a big buy in the window (Boa Morte) and he cost less than the money invested in Petrov. So reviewing things as they stand, the infrastructure is rapidly taking shape. We have 26 points from the exact games that produced 18 points last season. Of last seasons top five we only have Arsenal and Liverpool left to play (both at home). Sorenson, Moore and Laursen are all back in the frame. It has all been about trying to repair the damage of the last 25 years. Great players need to see that VP is the right place for them before they commit to us and all the ground work going in now will reap massive rewards in the future. As fans we haven't really helped. Crowds have been poor. So how can we blame potential new signings for holding back when the supporters have been doing exactly that. It would be hypocritical to say otherwise. But despite the last 12 games we are moving forward and we do need to ensure that we start picking up results from the remaining games. But it is clear we are a club on the march. Keep the faith. The lion is just clearing his throat before he roars once more. UTV
utv-sotc
Postive stuff guys. For once it looks like chairman, manager and supporters at Aston Villa are all "in it together". Been a long, long time.
Stevew
 

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