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Aston Villa 2 - Rapid Vienna 1

Villa Park

27/08/2009

Attendance: 22 563 :o(

Villa Win Battle But Lose War!

Right, so how do you do a match report after crashing out of Europe?

I was going to talk about my journey in, nice journey, I enjoy driving, we set out early and were surprised at the lack of traffic .... we got there in record time, parked up fairly closely and walked... well in my case hobbled... down to get our pies.

Oh right, so that is an idea, I could talk about the pies...! The move to Pukka Pies... good or bad? Well, first impressions at the Wigan game, thumbs up. Last night, because I am consumer minded, I decided to re-test... first steak and kidney pie, spot on... so spot on that after a trip for a gypsies kiss, I decided to re-test just to make sure. Two pies and one Cadbury's boost bar down me.... interestingly I've never had a Cadbury's boost before, I had a blue one, don't know what the difference is but despite being served like red wine at room temperature, I'm a chilled chocolate man myself, very nice.

Down to my seat, damn I wished at that stage I'd brought an ibuprofen, the Rapid Vienna fans were in fine voice and that was 40 minutes before the game. Total nutters and what great fun, very entertaining from start to finish.

Or I could talk about my journey home...? The radio was interesting, we had to search for Radio WM for a phone in and to be fair, people weren't happy. Strange that after a defeat, after again not really being prepared for Europe and having gone out to a team most thought would be easy? Great idea for Birmingham City council to close Queensway and the other tunnels on a match night, wouldn't have crossed their minds to look at the fixtures to prevent the major tailbacks I guess? Still, at least it meant we had more time to listen to the radio...!

Or I guess I could talk about the game?!

Got to be honest, over the two legs, the right team won. We had our chances in both matches but on reflection and trying not to be biased, they had more and in the first leg especially, could really have put the game out of sight. I must admit I have never really understood the away goal rule.... well, I understand that they say it makes the away team push for goals and hence make games more exciting, but in Europe games aren't often that exciting and do become chess games instead... I am not sure Villa did that much wrong, just Rapid 'did us' and that is football.

Against Wigan there was no effort, as a fan I can't accept that. Last night, I was happy to clap them off, they put in the effort, they didn't give up and you could see they were trying, well all but one anyway! Never been about results for me, obviously I go home happier with a win but the minimum requirement for this baldy head is 110% effort. We won the game, we lost the play offs and there you go. Due to the fact like last year we aren't prepared... and I hate to say this (as others have already said in article comments etc) ... but it might be a blessing that we are out. With the injuries to the likes of John Carew (back and fit last night) and Curtis Davies who put his shoulder out again last night, which might hasten his need for surgery (get well soon Mr D) we are obviously not going to be able to compete on all fronts and so, despite the cost to the club, it might mean we can battle on in the Premier League and maybe not stretch ourselves to the point of danger?

I must admit, after 7 transfer windows I'm a bit incredulous about our squad but if you dare mention anything like that, you get called negative, I refute that, I just think I'm realistic, we might have a better chance now of pushing top 8 in the league and a cup run in the League Cup maybe.

The debate will rumble whether MON should have changed a winning team from the Liverpool game, whether Sidwell and NRC should have been dropped and what formation we should have played, thing is, despite it being interesting to debate, only one man's opinion matters, same for all clubs, it is the manager who makes the decisions and it is his job that is on the line. Get it right and you get the plaudits, get it wrong and you are out.

I thought James Milner was our bright spark last night, also Brad Guzan pulled off a couple of super saves. Also having watched the end of the Channel 5 coverage when I got home (yes, I am that sad, I'm sure there are others also!?) it was pointed out how well Carlos Cueller had played and how exposed he had been by other players positioning.

So, all in all, it wasn't a bad match last night, it wasn't a bad performance, Rapid could have had more especially the open goal miss but then, so could we and Ashley Young obviously missed a penalty which didn't help. The ref was woeful but no way did that affect the result, he was as bad both ways and it seems most European game refs are similar, we can't blame him anyway, he did give two penalties (and the one did look a little bit like a dive having watched replays!)

We won at home, that must be used to give the lads confidence and now we must do the same against Fulham. And I mean WE MUST. I think at the end there were a few boo's but that was soon turned round to fans singing Aston Villa.... long may the boo's be drowned out by our songs!

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The Rapid Vienna fans. Just fabulous!

Player Ratings


Brad Guzan 7

pulled off some very important saves, don't think he can be blamed for their goal. Looks like a good prospect, lets hope he is our Number One for many years and he does as well as some of the other American keeper imports have in the PL

Nicky Shorey 6

looks good at times, looks a bit shaky in defence at times. Still don't think he deserves the poor reputation he has with some!

Carlos Cuellar 7

solid ... even more solid having watched the end of match highlight summary!

Curtis Davis 6.5

was playing well, horrible to see him coming off with his shoulder at a different angle, bless him he still clapped the Trinity crowd who had stood up to clap him off as we could see what had happened.

Habib Beye 6

looked ok, settling in nicely, got a fair bit of pestering from MON shouting this, that and the other to him, JG used to do similar putting the players off their stride!

James Milner 7

solid, well taken penalty, some great first touches, did miss a fairly easy chance in open play which is a shame but I like Milner!

Stiliyan Petrov 5.5

we lost the battle in midfield, Stan wasn't at his best.

Fabian Delph 5.5

same as Stan, we did lose the midfield battle BUT this guy will be a star, he made a few great runs, weaving in and out, just wasn't able to make the final ball count. Very promising.

Ashley Young 5.5

glimpses of his great ability, got us a pen but then, also missed it and didn't take the second one. He isn't on tip top form at the moment and the touches that were working so well last season have - temporarily - evaded him. He'll bounce back, they do say form is temporary, class is permanent.

John Carew 7

quiet at times but he is a threat and his goal was simply fab!

Emile Heskey 5

wasn't in the game, it is a bit confusing really having him at Villa, he was never prolific and is nearing the end of his career so not sure that will change, certainly won't if he won't shoot. I think Harewood is better! Still want him to prove us wrong though, as did the Liverpool and Blues fans I'm sure. Wigan fans loved him though!

Agbonlahor on for Heskey 82

Not on long enough to rate.

Lowry on for Davies 83

Not on long enough to rate.

Albrighton on for Delph 86

Not on long enough to rate.

Manager Rating

Got the plaudits for doing everything right v Liverpool, changed it so was always going to get some moans, it is the nature of football. Surprised subs weren't used quicker after the Rapid goal, Heskey had been a passenger again but then, I couldn't do MON's job for all the money in the world, I'd be dead from stress within a week!

Opponent Rating

Well he looked happy!




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Writer: J P Fear Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Friday August 28 2009

Time: 10:59AM

Your Comments

ha, sorry for the madness, got to lighten the mood some way and how better than pies ! :o) Ratings, feel free to leave yours in article comments or in the forum, or let me know where my opinions (and that is all they are before some start panicking!) are wrong!?
The Fear
I think that you are quite kind... Heskey getting a 5... Should be a 0... It was basically as though he wasn't even on the pitch... But congrats to the team... When I see us play like that I start to feel like things will be okay. Plenty talent and effort... Just would like us to play to our strengths! 4-5-1 MON!
Astriel
Totally disagree Mr Fear - Chicken and Mushroom is the way to go on the pie front...I think there should be a new poll though - are any Villa fans actually bothered about going out of Eurodisney cup?
Mat777
I don't disagree with a 4-4-2 when were at home and we need goals but Heskey and Carew can't play together. Heskey and anyone can't play together. Is there some managerial conspiracy where they sit around and laugh at the fans and media because heskey is getting games at both club and country level??
Holte End Hero
I actualy don't think Heskey is any way as bad as everyone is making out. I'm not saying he is playing great, but he is not THAT bad, he has just become the EASY target when things are not going to plan. He won some important headers to set Carew up, and produced a great cross that Big John back flipped wide. Did you also note that when he came off, the ball was never held up front, and all our attacks broke down. I am NOT saying he had a great game, but I do see what he brings to a team (as does MON, Capello and numerous strike partners like Michael Owen). Just please give the guy a chance. Although disappointed with going out of Europe, to quote an old cliche, I think it IS a blessing in disguise. We do not have enough depth to be able to compete properly, although MON has had a long time to put that right! I also thought Delph was worth considerably more than your rating. A potential superstar in the making.
krfeskivilla
Thought all my prayers had been answered in Pre-Season when Heskey went down with a head injury. But no, it wasn't serious. The facts are clear as day, we were riding high, pushing for 2nd/3rd/4th spot, still in the cups and then the lump signed. Messed up our very successful 4-5-1/4-3-3 & we slipped to 6th. [Villa - Heskey + (Sidwell + Reo Coker) = Winning]
StuLinney
Did anyone else think we was playing a 4,4,1 ? where the hell was Heskey !!! Why the bloody hell did MON leave it 8mins to bring on Agbonlahor, and why did we not have our BEST tackler on the pitch, the lad that marked Gerrard out of the game ?? it certainly wasn't Delph. in fact im bloody gob smacked MON carried it on when we was 2-0 up and they were getting very dangerous, should of taken Heskey straight off and played Reo Coker in the middle................Theres a big part of me saying MON was happy to lose this match so we can focus on the premiership.
Villa 4 Ever
How can Delph make the final ball when we had 2 staues up front , nothing to pass to was there ? Thought the Lad was excellent considering the lack of any movement
villan57
Think its great how everyone watches the same game but comes away with totally different views. For me, Beye looked shakey again but getting better (5), Shorey looked great going forward and was stretched at the back covering inside (7), agree midfield was poor and we lacked bite and drive, giving both players a generous (5) (although think its a bit unfair to throw a 19 yr old into his first ever European game never having played higher than div2 and expect him to cope), Heskey (?) was he on the pitch? and here is controversial, Carew (5) I thought he looked lazy and disinterested. nice to see Ashley going past players again rather than just falling over. Final rating, formation (0) if negative scores aren't allowed.
AVbornandbred
Is there really any point to us finishin 6th or 5th? We work hard all season to get into comps such as this and dont take any notice when we are in them. Ok if he does want to cpncentrate on the Prem, but do you really think we will get into the TOP4? I myself was looking forward to a really good run in this comp, for us to show the other competing teams, that oh that Villa team look quite good, players will then take notice of us and raise or stature somewhat. I am fed up with us not going 110% for comps like this,****es me off. I want to win every comp. If MON dont want to be in it every season and wants to concentrate on the league, finish 8th or below and stop building our hopes up!!!!! AND SELL HESKEY FFS HE IS A COMPLETE TO55ER AND WASTE OF SPACE.
erv2005
I was kind to Heskey Astriel I'm scared of the nasty people calling me names ! lol.... Mat777 I am considering a change of pie formation for Sunday, just shows how fickle I am! Will report back to you!
The Fear
fascinating game isn't it avbornandbred, how we all watch the same game and yet can see it totally differently? Then again, don't think we are too far away ratings wise to be honest, give or take the odd mark!
The Fear
it doesn't make sense playing 2 target men together in my opinion. so in a way its a bit unfair to judge heskey on that in my opinion. still, carew is definitely the best target man we have, and should have played alongside delfuenso, or with one up top. gutted, but im trying to see the positives, and maybe now our tiny tiny squad will do better in the league
ric112
We'd have been in a group with Hamburg and Celtic if we'd have qualified. Gutted. Imagine the atmosphere for a game against celtic.
ams78
properly gutted bout not getting the chance to go up to celtic
goodb_2
 

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