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10 September 2017 17:24 Post ID: #1713362 - in reply to #1713359
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robbali - 10/9/2017 17:20

MAYBE WE SHOULD WAIT for EDDIE HOWE to take Bournemouth down and go for him...no doubt he will fail at VP too though!


I think Eddie Howe is a bit like David Moyes in that he moved on and failed. A one club man imo.
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10 September 2017 17:29 Post ID: #1713364 - in reply to #1712724
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The guy at Fulham. Eddie Fucking Howe. This is exactly why I don't see the point in swapping manager unless the right Man is available. Whoever comes in will need time and patience , something that is an alien concept to many fans .
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10 September 2017 18:08 Post ID: #1713366 - in reply to #1712724
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Well if we don't swap soon then say bye bye to promotion and hello to a relegation fight.
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10 September 2017 20:13 Post ID: #1713401 - in reply to #1713356
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Fulford - 10/9/2017 17:15

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Fulford - 11/9/2017 01:21

I'm also sick of the managerial merry go round, but until we get one that performs this is how it has to be.

Surely by now everyone can see that it's just not working out with Bruce and that he needs to be replaced.


The issue is who. If Mourinho or Ferguson were waiting for the call, I'd be all for it. Big Sam seems about the best manager on the list and he probably wouldn't come to us. Some on here are calling for the return of Sherwood because Bruce is clueless when it comes to tactics. Hahahaha


As I keep saying, the guy at Fulham apparently wants out and they play some lovely attacking football.


So you are suggesting a manager whose name you don't even know ?
Interesting.

Hopefully it just easier to say the guy at Fulham rather than spell some foreign name?
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10 September 2017 20:18 Post ID: #1713402 - in reply to #1712724
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We made that ginger look like Xavi. He dictated the game while Hourihane wandered around....
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10 September 2017 20:22 Post ID: #1713404 - in reply to #1713401
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Melon Donkey - 10/9/2017 20:13

So you are suggesting a manager whose name you don't even know ?
Interesting.

Hopefully it just easier to say the guy at Fulham rather than spell some foreign name?


Is it still Jokanovic? Yes, Fulham play some very good football it has to be said. 'Jokanovic' is definitely more Twitter friendly than 'guy at Fulham'.
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10 September 2017 20:58 Post ID: #1713408 - in reply to #1713404
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JuanPabloAngel - 10/9/2017 20:22

Melon Donkey - 10/9/2017 20:13

So you are suggesting a manager whose name you don't even know ?
Interesting.

Hopefully it just easier to say the guy at Fulham rather than spell some foreign name?


Is it still Jokanovic? Yes, Fulham play some very good football it has to be said. 'Jokanovic' is definitely more Twitter friendly than 'guy at Fulham'.


Without looking it up I wouldn't know who it is JPA. I consider myself to have a decent knowledge of football. The fact that I don't even know who this supposed saviour of Avfc is concerns me.
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11 September 2017 01:02 Post ID: #1713437 - in reply to #1713168
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1958Villan - 9/9/2017 19:42


While I fully understand and would normally agree with you CDX, I think you have forgotten that no matter is owner, or manager, next season, we are losing,

That's the club losing at least eight(8) players two seasons running. I haven't counted players like Kodjia, Hogan, McCormack, Grealish, Chester, Davis, O'Hare and several other youngsters asking for transfers.
And to be brutally honest, I can't see any of them wanting to renew for a League One side, which we will be, if we don't change manager and coaching staff pretty quickly.


I see where you are coming I suppose what I mean is we shouldnt be looking to overturn the playing staff like we've done most seasons. Lambert set a terrible precedent where he'd buy 5 lads one might work out and then he'd buy another 5 and turf a few out. The debacle at left back for 3 or 4 seasons was ridiculous.

McParlandTheGreat - 9/9/2017 21:12

Also reckon the fans are realists. The fans were delighted at the Norwich and Wigan wins, even though we knew Norwich were still bedding in and Wigan were a division below. Why? Because they saw something positive on the pitch. That's what's missing at the moment. The fans may have been disappointed, even concerned, at RDM's start, but if the club had stuck with him I don't think there would have been a huge outcry. The killer at the moment is that Bruce has had nigh on a year and at no time has shown he's on top of the job.


Yeah you're right to a degree and when Bruce first started there was some positivity. We got results and didnt play well so I get maybe he wasnt giving as much optimism as possible but things just seemed to sharply change after the initial rough spell.

We're a fractured community and I dont feel anyone is with the team like we were with other teams of the past.
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11 September 2017 01:33 Post ID: #1713438 - in reply to #1712724
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I get your point about Lambert but I have a bit of sympathy for him. He was trying to buy PL players for 200k. It was never going to work.
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11 September 2017 01:52 Post ID: #1713439 - in reply to #1712724
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Agreed Re: Lambert to a degree, he was in an impossible situation but he never helped himself either. It was 3 or 4 seasons of lottery transfers hoping he'd get another Benteke spending a pittance instead of actually just focusing on a couple of quality buys.

Bruce and RDM both did the cardinal sin of buying the best with complete disregard to how you'd fit them into a cohesive unit. At least Lambert I think had an idea or 'vision' of how he'd get a good team but he just coudnt implement it he constantly was either too attacking and we got mauled or too defensive. Defensive/Countering was the only thing that seemed to net a few result so he persisted with it like what Bruce seems to be doing, trying to roll the clock back to when he first took over.

I feel every manager does the same, its easy to get a side to be disciplined and get behind the ball its incredibly hard to try and be attacking when you constantly leak goals. Balance is an illusive thing and we've probably only seen it at VP 10 times in the last 5 years. Bruce has me worried now because he can't get this side to look comfortable defending.
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11 September 2017 06:35 Post ID: #1713444 - in reply to #1712724
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The thing that stands out to me about Lambert is that he lasted 3 season with us when most of the others couldn't last 6 months.

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11 September 2017 10:38 Post ID: #1713469 - in reply to #1712724
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I do know his name Melon but was uncertain that others on here did.
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11 September 2017 12:14 Post ID: #1713284 - in reply to #1712724
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11 September 2017 12:14 Post ID: #1713287 - in reply to #1713284
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I'm tired and jaded just watching . a 30 man squad and he has players tired or jaded
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11 September 2017 12:14 Post ID: #1713289 - in reply to #1713284
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after that glimmer of promise as well, makes it feel even worse to be back to dullsville...
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11 September 2017 12:14 Post ID: #1713293 - in reply to #1713284
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Get lost Bruce, it's the fans who are tired and jaded of your unconvincing excuses.

Times up tayto.
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11 September 2017 12:14 Post ID: #1713297 - in reply to #1713284
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I'm tired and jaded all the miles I do but I still up every week home or away refreshed and raring to go then five minutes in you just know whats coming.Mind you we had three great days in Germany.
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