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Tony Xia - September will be crucial for us.
13 September 2017 00:21 Post ID: #1713885 - in reply to #1711631
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No win Saturday then the decision should be made. We maybe be falling to far behind now. We cannot keep saying there is x number of games left. The season is getting away from us right now.

Who ?. No idea.
It makes me unhappy that we are here AGAIN. And no supporter should be gaining any satisfaction if Bruce is sacked because it makes the club look farcical again and shows yet another year of failure. No reason to celebrate whatsoever.
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13 September 2017 08:33 Post ID: #1713904 - in reply to #1711631
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He has a one year rolling contract doesn't he? Which'll be up next month, hopefully it doesn't get renewed the way it's going.
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13 September 2017 11:10 Post ID: #1713936 - in reply to #1711631
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Not sure rolling contracts work like that VillaTomB38 - I'm pretty sure that a 12 month rolling contract allows both parties to work on the basis that there is always 12 months remaining on the current deal. In effect the contract renews daily.
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13 September 2017 11:50 Post ID: #1713954 - in reply to #1711631
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I will get no satisfaction if he is sacked Melon. Yes I want him gone but the fact that we are in this position means that we have failed as a club.

Whoever we get I hope he's successful but if not I hope we don't dither and let him carry on like Bruce.
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13 September 2017 11:52 Post ID: #1713955 - in reply to #1713936
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McGrath4Pope - 14/9/2017 03:10

Not sure rolling contracts work like that VillaTomB38 - I'm pretty sure that a 12 month rolling contract allows both parties to work on the basis that there is always 12 months remaining on the current deal. In effect the contract renews daily.


Yeah one of my mates has not long told me that too, still be a cheap pay off I guess compared to a 3 year contract I guess.
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13 September 2017 22:33 Post ID: #1714087 - in reply to #1711631
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There maybe trouble ahaead......

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14 September 2017 00:04 Post ID: #1714116 - in reply to #1711631
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The MON case was a funny one. It was said that MON and Randy would meet once a year and agree the season ahead, from which I assumed his contract would be renewed at the same time. Never quite figured out how MON could walk out and still claim compensation. Suspect we'll never know.
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14 September 2017 01:10 Post ID: #1714129 - in reply to #1711631
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Sorry to pick on you McParland but I got bored of explaining this when MON walked lol

The compensation was based on work time spent under current contract to presumably a cut off date for walking with 'his claims'.

It was also based on bonuses and contractual clauses already achieved but yet to be paid because the pay date for those hadn't yet cycled round.

MON won what he expected to being a lover of the law, the club won what they expected to by paying lawyers.

We'll never know which 'party' won the moral victory in terms of a couple of grand either way to indicate a winner, but it went down the middle as per the contract and obligations and the telling point is pre agreement claims - how many claims did you hear post agreement other than MON and Villa were perfectly happy with the outcome.

It's grandstanding - go in high, settle in the middle - that's the game.

In terms of Bruce, I'm torn. Clearly it's not good enough especially with the money spent - but he's the first manager in a long time who isn't treating us like a 'step'.

I even get his pointless bitching because it's not at the fans per se, it's at Twitter but it's ill timed and ill judged.

But he can't stop himself from falling into the same old 'must be safe' traps. He needs to switch his attitude from must not lose, to win at all costs and that involves keeping players noses out of face when they offer us the square route of FA'll.

But he also needs that bit of luck as there's no way we should've not beat Boro.
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14 September 2017 16:43 Post ID: #1714214 - in reply to #1711631
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Mike - thanks for the info, first time I've heard it explained.

Agree about Bruce. Trouble is I think in the past he's always attempted to go for the safe option when he needs to go and take a risk. The wins we need this season will always involve being bold; the days of weak opposition have gone. W1 L1 is better than D2. In the cup we have taken risks and it's payed off.

Not sure about managers treating us as a step. If they have it's been a slippery one.
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14 September 2017 17:23 Post ID: #1714225 - in reply to #1714214
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McParlandTheGreat - 14/9/2017 16:43

Not sure about managers treating us as a step. If they have it's been a slippery one.


Lol, yes, no manager in living memory has gone on to bigger and better things have they?
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14 September 2017 19:52 Post ID: #1714249 - in reply to #1711631
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Looks like the Dr. is doing his best impression of Lerner the mute.
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14 September 2017 20:03 Post ID: #1714257 - in reply to #1711631
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im still not sure that bruce is the issue. is like to hear what goes on behind closed doors and as to what calderwood says and what influence calderwood has on bruce.
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14 September 2017 21:12 Post ID: #1714260 - in reply to #1714257
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Villagaz711 - 14/9/2017 20:03

im still not sure that bruce is the issue. is like to hear what goes on behind closed doors and as to what calderwood says and what influence calderwood has on bruce.


Wouldn't we all Villagaz

I'd love to know what the hell they work on all week

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14 September 2017 21:29 Post ID: #1714264 - in reply to #1711631
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No probs McParland and yes good point about managers but that's the impression I've had and Bruce doesn't fit that role with his own speeches which is why I'd love him to succeed.

But yeah agree also, this don't lose attitude hampers us, when we actually go at teams we look a hell of a lot better.
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27 September 2017 10:15 Post ID: #1716357 - in reply to #1711631
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Looking back through this thread, the general consensus was that we should be looking for 12 points minimum from September's matches.

Well, with only Bolton left to come, we've gained 11 points from the games so far, so assuming we don't fuck it up on Saturday, we can certainly claim to have had a pretty decent month as we head into another international break

Definite signs we have turned a corner, but the real test will come in the next few matches as we face Wolves, Fulham and Small Heath.

Come on you Villa boys
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30 September 2017 18:55 Post ID: #1716936 - in reply to #1711631
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The good Doctor got it right regarding that abysmal referee today. He certainly knows his stuff....



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30 September 2017 19:15 Post ID: #1716942 - in reply to #1711631
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When did we last win 4 league games on the bounce ?
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