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Snodgrass?
26 August 2017 03:43 Post ID: #1711335 - in reply to #1711032
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26 August 2017 07:26 Post ID: #1711344 - in reply to #1711320
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1958Villan - 25/8/2017 23:23

danvilla2 - 25/8/2017 21:06

I was shouting for Snodgrass a year ago, for me he is a luxury player we were missing. Great delivery, creates chances, scores goals and is proven. I haven't seen him play much but from the times I have seen him live I've been impressed.

My concern now is how do you fit him in with a team which contains Hourihane?



You have very positive thoughts about a player you haven't seen much mate. Why is that?
All of the positives you came up with for Snodgrass, are exactly the same ones that were said about Hourihane. Its strange that now that Mr. Bruce has stumbled on Hourihane's best position, where we are likely to see his best work, we will play him besides the DM again, where he isn't suited, especially when Snodgrass plays.


Fair challenge, from what I've seen of MOTD highlights admittidely however 99% of us will be going off that, to me he looks like someone who can be more effective going forward than what we've got. My point about not seeing him thatuch was meant to be before a point about not knowing what he'd be like defensively. I haven't honestly watched all 38 Hull games of 2015 before making this post

Hourihane was an exciting signing and hasn't turned bad over night. In 25 Barnsley game she he scored 6 and had 11 assists, that's a return on investment I haven't seen at VP since probably Ashley Young. We've bought sporadically and are trying to fit them in like a jigsaw puzzle using pieces from different puzzles.

If I was Bruce, i would look at our squad and pick our Kodjia, Hogan and Hourihane as our three most gifted and likely golscorers. And from that, decide what signings suit getting those three scoring goals. Does signing Snodgrass do that? Potentially for kodjia and hogan, but yes pushes Hourihane back towards our goal.

If we're comparing Bacuna to Snodgrass as one-in-one-out signing, although not exactly the same position then I'm happy with the business. Take the cash for someone who needed to move on for his own career and if Snodgrass is a flop we haven't wasted £5-6m.

Edited by danvilla2 26/8/2017 07:33
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26 August 2017 10:11 Post ID: #1711361 - in reply to #1711032
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Initially, I felt rather underwhelmed by the signing, but on reflection, it's probably decent enough business when you compare Snodgrass to Bacuna, as has been mentioned.

My issue with it would be our lack of cover elsewhere - especially in the left-back area. If we are feeling the bite of FFP, is it a good use of limited resources to sign another predominantly right-sided player at the possible expense of defensive cover?

If Taylor gets crocked, who will fill in? De Laet? Bree? Bjarnason?

But taken at face value, Snodgrass is probably a decent loan signing.
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26 August 2017 12:52 Post ID: #1711373 - in reply to #1711032
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I hope I'm the first to coin the nickname Snoddy.
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26 August 2017 13:04 Post ID: #1711374 - in reply to #1711032
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I used Snoddy in my article title! lol

Sorry but basically what I'm saying is your mind works the same way as mine.

That's frightening BB !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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26 August 2017 13:27 Post ID: #1711380 - in reply to #1711032
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Wasn't he in Heartbeat ?
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27 August 2017 00:07 Post ID: #1711427 - in reply to #1711032
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He prefers to play on the right or as a number 10. So that's right wing or inside left.
I'm confused.
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27 August 2017 08:38 Post ID: #1711436 - in reply to #1711032
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First of all, haven't posted in a while so hello everyone - hope you're all fine and dandy!

Snodgrass is a decent player and I know he can play AM but I have to say I thought we already had two decent right wingers (Adonai, Elmohady) so a little concerned about the lack of balance in the squad. Seems Bruce wants to bring in players he knows which is fair enough, but as some have said in this thread I'd have thought there are other areas where we lack cover.
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27 August 2017 08:46 Post ID: #1711437 - in reply to #1711032
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Is he better than what we have? Yes he is or was before he went to west ham. Many questioned Whelan but we'd be up shit creek without him now. We are already 10 points behind so we really are not in a position to question the signing of Snodgrass.
Even if we were top you still have to move forward .
I'm really happy we are giving the kids a go but they won't get us up . Let's be realistic here
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27 August 2017 09:40 Post ID: #1711442 - in reply to #1711032
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Yes ideally you need everyone that improves the team. But with the squad we already have any decent manager should be able to do a job.
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27 August 2017 09:54 Post ID: #1711446 - in reply to #1711442
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MiniCooper - 27/8/2017 09:40

Yes ideally you need everyone that improves the team. But with the squad we already have any decent manager should be able to do a job.


Hell Mate long time no see , I agree they should be but they're not doing it . We should be capable of going to Bristol and coming away with 3 points , not a well earned draw.
Most managers would kill for our squad that's for sure including a few in the league above
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27 August 2017 12:27 Post ID: #1711460 - in reply to #1711437
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Villan57 - 27/8/2017 08:46

Is he better than what we have? Yes he is or was before he went to west ham. Many questioned Whelan but we'd be up shit creek without him now. We are already 10 points behind so we really are not in a position to question the signing of Snodgrass.
Even if we were top you still have to move forward .
I'm really happy we are giving the kids a go but they won't get us up . Let's be realistic here[/QUOTE

57, I've just worked out your real identity.
You are Alan Hansen aren't you?
Sad that you are still pushing the, "You'll never win anything with kids", goof.
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27 August 2017 12:27 Post ID: #1711461 - in reply to #1711437
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Villan57 - 27/8/2017 08:46

Is he better than what we have? Yes he is or was before he went to west ham. Many questioned Whelan but we'd be up shit creek without him now. We are already 10 points behind so we really are not in a position to question the signing of Snodgrass.
Even if we were top you still have to move forward .
I'm really happy we are giving the kids a go but they won't get us up . Let's be realistic here[/QUOTE

57, I've just worked out your real identity.
You are Alan Hansen aren't you?
Sad that you are still pushing the, "You'll never win anything with kids", goof.
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27 August 2017 12:57 Post ID: #1711466 - in reply to #1711437
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Villan57 - 27/8/2017 08:46

Is he better than what we have? Yes he is or was before he went to west ham. Many questioned Whelan but we'd be up shit creek without him now. We are already 10 points behind so we really are not in a position to question the signing of Snodgrass.
Even if we were top you still have to move forward .
I'm really happy we are giving the kids a go but they won't get us up . Let's be realistic here


Why would we be up shit creek without Whelen??? He's looked poor so far and his old legs and lack of mobility in the middle has cost us so far in my opinion. I expected this from him but what I didn't expect was how much he gives the ball away needlessly, that has surprised me. I'm sure he will improve but so far what I've seen from Doyle Hayes he would have given us much more energy in the middle and would not have got so overrun like we did in hull, reading and Cardiff.

Looked like a weaker less mobile version of jedinak so far.
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27 August 2017 16:20 Post ID: #1711485 - in reply to #1711466
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BromsgroveVilla - 27/8/2017 12:57

Villan57 - 27/8/2017 08:46

Is he better than what we have? Yes he is or was before he went to west ham. Many questioned Whelan but we'd be up shit creek without him now. We are already 10 points behind so we really are not in a position to question the signing of Snodgrass.
Even if we were top you still have to move forward .
I'm really happy we are giving the kids a go but they won't get us up . Let's be realistic here


Why would we be up shit creek without Whelen???

Looked like a weaker less mobile version of jedinak so far.


Yep he's not a patch on Jedinak but he's the only player we have who has the discipline to do the job and get a foot in . Hayes looks the part but he's not getting a game nor will he under Bruce. I really like him too.
Hourihane is now a super star after one good game but couldn't tackle a traffic cone. Lansbury is the same . Then we are down to kids who haven't started a league game
The same was levelled at Sanchez as well ? Yes he gives the ball away trying to push us forwards , we could always get Westwood back on loan he never gave the ball away neither did he ever win it .
The only way not to give the ball away is not to have it in the first place , Let's be honest the whole team give the ball away if you leave them long enough.

So without Whelan we would be down to an 18 year old untested kid . Much as I like the idea of playing the under 23's the reality is they are no better than any other clubs under 23's despite the hype . We won't win the championship with our under 23 side , They probably won't win their own league.

It's about promotion not trying to do it with "our own " .

Been there done that myself and it's a great feeling winning a league with all local kids but then you hit the wall .


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27 August 2017 18:52 Post ID: #1711494 - in reply to #1711032
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Just been reading Snoddiy's interview. So he fell out with Bilic because Bilic wanted to play him on the left wing??!! Looks like we have 3 right-wingers. 4 if you include Green, who doesn't mind playing on the left.
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27 August 2017 21:54 Post ID: #1711516 - in reply to #1711032
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Know all managers who insist on playing people out of position ..... crap
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