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Pick your 23 man squad
25 July 2017 15:35 Post ID: #1704951
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Jose Mourinho once said 23 is the magic number for a squad size.

So assuming no more incomings what would yours be?

Mine would be -

Johnstone
Steer
Sarkic

Hutton
Bree
Chester
Samba
Terry
Baker
Taylor
Amavi

Jedinak
Whelan
Lansbury
Hourihane
Adomah
Green
Grealish
Doyle-Hayes
Elmohamady

Kodjia
Hogan
Gabby
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25 July 2017 15:44 Post ID: #1704955 - in reply to #1704951
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Same really, although I'd like to fit RHM in there somewhere and see if he's as good as he thinks he is
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25 July 2017 16:17 Post ID: #1704957 - in reply to #1704951
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Pretty well much the same. Except...

Keep Bunne (he has a new deal anyway), Steer out on loan for game time, Sarkic out on loan 2nd half of season if they think he's ready.

Amavi: used to think he has talent, but he gets worse every time I see him. There's too much pressure for him. Get rid.

On showing so far Elmo is way above Adomah. Do we need him?

Doyle-hayes: like O'Hare, Davis and others he's one of the fringe youngsters, so maybe don't need him in the 23.

So could get down to 19-20 in the "main" squad, excluding the fringe.

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25 July 2017 17:18 Post ID: #1704959 - in reply to #1704957
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I would imagine thor will be in that squad.
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25 July 2017 17:45 Post ID: #1704961 - in reply to #1704951
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Pretty much picks itself doesn't it?

I can only see a couple of senior players to argue about.

Johnstone
Steer
Bunn

Hutton
Bree
Chester
Terry
Samba
Baker
Taylor
Amavi.

Jedinak
Wheelan
Lansbury
Horihane
Elmohamandy
Adomah
Green
Grealish
Bjarnason

Kodjia
Hogan
Gabby

Can't see there being much variation on that. Maybe a few would have De Laet or Richards and maybe it'd be nice to throw in a few younger players but I think that'll happen if we can shift a couple of players.

Don't see much more coming in anyway.
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25 July 2017 18:24 Post ID: #1704963 - in reply to #1704951
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Gollini will go.
Amavi will go.
Cisshoko loaned out.
Richards used a farm animal at the training ground, ploughing, grazing etc
McFatboy will go.
Elphick will go.
Veretout gone.
Gardner will go.
Steer loaned out.
Bree loaned out.

Johnstone
Bunn
Sarkic

Hutton
De Laet
Chester
Terry
Samba
Baker
Taylor
Bedeau or Toner

Jedinak
Wheelan
Lansbury
Hourihane
Elmohamady
Adomah
Green
Grealish
Bjarnason

Kodjia
Hogan
Gabby Unfortunately. I’d rather see McKirdy or RH-B but Flabby seems to be loved by Bruce.
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25 July 2017 18:52 Post ID: #1704964 - in reply to #1704951
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You're all forgetting Bruce also loves Bacuna, and I'd rather play with 10 men than have Gabby in a squad.

Both will be in Bruces "group"
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25 July 2017 21:00 Post ID: #1704968 - in reply to #1704951
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Adomah did really well for us last season, so I think I'd consider trying him as second striker, or attacking midfielder, he has to be a better gamble than Gabby.
I'd give Hourihane until new year to prove all the hype about him isn't just that, hype. If he doesn't come good, I'd list him.

Apart from those moves I'd go pretty much with whats already been laid out.
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26 July 2017 10:29 Post ID: #1704988 - in reply to #1704959
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sirdennis - 25/7/2017 17:18

I would imagine thor will be in that squad.


Yeah he will be. But wouldn't be in mine. Just don't rate him at all.
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26 July 2017 11:45 Post ID: #1704995 - in reply to #1704951
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If you are only picking 23 there's a lot still needing to be moved on. I make it that we have the following on our books so far:

Goalkeepers (4): Bunn, Johnstone, Sarkic, Steer (plus Gollini on loan)

Defenders (13): Amavi, Baker, Bree, Chester, Cissokho, De Laet, Elmohamady, Elphick, Hutton, Richards, Samba, Taylor, Terry

Midfielders (12): Adomah, Bacuna, Bjarnason, Gardner, Grealish, Green, Hourihane, Jedinak, Lansbury, Lyden, Tshibola, Whelan (plus Gil on loan)

Strikers (6): Agbonlahor, Davis, Hepburn-Murphy, Hogan, Kodjia, McCormack

That's 35 individuals (plus a further 2 out on loan). So you'd expect a few more exits in the next month surely?!

Edited by Tierney 26/7/2017 11:46
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26 July 2017 11:45 Post ID: #1704996 - in reply to #1704951
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I am surprised that you wouldn't have Thor in your squad Deano.
Especially with the possibility of Amavi being either loaned out or sold.
Thor has actually looked decent playing that left side, both defensively and in an attacking sense.
He made some great runs, only to be ignored.
To be honest, Thor looked more at home in that left back spot, in one friendly, than Amavi has since he joined.
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26 July 2017 11:54 Post ID: #1704997 - in reply to #1704996
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Tierney, the Dr has pretty much said as much 20 snr players + 6 youth.

So by my reckoning we need rid of 11 more after Veretout.

Lyden
Richards
De Laet
Elphick
Tsibola
Gardner
McCormack

That's 7. Not sure where the other 4 are coming from. Bacuna? Bruce seems to like him though. Amavi? Possibly, although since his move fell through he seems to be back in Bruce's thoughts, Baker? Do we need him now we have Samba and potentially Suliman coming through who may be a better prospect?

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26 July 2017 12:00 Post ID: #1704998 - in reply to #1704995
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Tierney - 26/7/2017 11:45

If you are only picking 23 there's a lot still needing to be moved on. I make it that we have the following on our books so far:

Goalkeepers (4): Bunn, Johnstone, Sarkic, Steer (plus Gollini on loan)

Defenders (13): Amavi, Baker, Bree, Chester, Cissokho, De Laet, Elmohamady, Elphick, Hutton, Richards, Samba, Taylor, Terry

Midfielders (12): Adomah, Bacuna, Bjarnason, Gardner, Grealish, Green, Hourihane, Jedinak, Lansbury, Lyden, Tshibola, Whelan (plus Gil on loan)

Strikers (6): Agbonlahor, Davis, Hepburn-Murphy, Hogan, Kodjia, McCormack

That's 35 individuals (plus a further 2 out on loan). So you'd expect a few more exits in the next month surely?!


Out of that lot, I'd definitely let go of Bunn, Steer and Gollini.
Cissokho, Amavi, Elphick and Richards. I'd let Bree and DeLaet out on loan for 6 months.
Tshsibola, Gardner and Bacuna. I'd give Grealish and Hourihane until New Year to make an impact, if they don't I'd add them to the move on list.
Agbonlahor and McCormack can go and if a really good offer came in, I'd be prepared to let Kodjia go.
That's a possible 15 bodies out of the door, leaving us with a squad of 20.
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26 July 2017 12:06 Post ID: #1705000 - in reply to #1704951
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Yes I think Thor will be a decent player for us.

Still looks a yard off the pace , hence why he has had more minutes pre season than anyone else.
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26 July 2017 21:29 Post ID: #1705023 - in reply to #1704951
Why on earth would anyone want to sell Kodjia? Don't you want to get promoted?
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26 July 2017 22:14 Post ID: #1705030 - in reply to #1705023
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Sasquatch - 26/7/2017 21:29

Why on earth would anyone want to sell Kodjia? Don't you want to get promoted?


Strange think to put unless you were waiting for someone to bite
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26 July 2017 22:44 Post ID: #1705036 - in reply to #1704951
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col8, I think Sasquatch is thinking about what I said In my last post.
I said, that if a really good offer for Kodjia came in, I'd accept it, which is somewhat different to saying I want to sell him.
And by the way Sasquatch, Kodjia, on his own will not get us promoted, in fact he could cost us promotion, as he only plays for himself and not the team.
He will try a shot from an impossible position, rather than pass to a teammate in a better position.
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