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Posted 18/3/2013 13:24
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not sure. this might be the original source: http://scarletwhore.com/?p=5131
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bull


Health effects

Typical ingredients like caffeine, taurine and glucuronolactone have been assessed by health authorities for their safety. Health Canada conducted a review of the scientific literature on caffeine concluding that the general population of healthy adults is not at risk for potential adverse effects from caffeine if they limit their consumption to 400 mg per day.[18]

Taurine and glucuronolactone are normal body constituents and also naturally present in the human diet (e.g. scallops, fish, poultry and grain respectively). The European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) in its January 2009 opinion on the safety of energy drink ingredients concluded that the exposure to taurine and glucuronolactone at the levels presently used in energy drinks is not of safety concern.[19]

A review published in 2008 found no documented reports of negative or positive health effects associated with the amount of taurine used in energy drinks, including Red Bull. Caffeine and sugar levels in Red Bull are comparable to coffee and fruit juices, respectively.[20] Another publication found that "the number of available publications that really go into the details in this topic is also rather poor".[21]
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Caffeine
Main article: Caffeine

The caffeine of a single can of Red Bull is 80 mg/250 ml (32 mg/100 ml).[22][23] This is about the same as a normal coffee, or slightly less depending on the brewing method.[24] The actual caffeine level in Red Bull can vary depending on country, as some countries have legal restrictions on how much caffeine is allowed in drinks. As is the case with other caffeinated beverages, Red Bull drinkers may experience adverse effects as a result of overuse caffeine intoxication.

Energy drinks are not sports drinks and have not been formulated to deliver re-hydration. Water should be consumed in addition to energy drinks during exercise.

A 2008 position statement issued by the National Federation of State High School Associations made the following recommendations about general energy drink consumption for young athletes:[citation needed]
Water and appropriate sports drinks should be used for rehydration as outlined in the NFHS Document “Position Statement and Recommendations for Hydration to Minimize the Risk for Dehydration and Heat Illness”.
Energy drinks should not be used for hydration.
Information about the absence of benefit and the presence of potential risk associated with energy drinks should be widely shared among all individuals who interact with young athletes.
Energy drinks should not be consumed by athletes who are dehydrated.
Energy drinks should not be consumed, without prior medical approval, by athletes taking over the counter or prescription medications.
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Cardiovascular effects

A review of the scientific literature on caffeine concluded that moderate caffeine intake (less than 400 mg per day) does not adversely affect cardiovascular health.[25] A can of Red Bull, 250ml, contains 80 mg of caffeine which is less than a cup of coffee.[26]

There has been at least one case report of Red Bull overdose causing postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome in a young athlete.[27] A February 3, 2009 article in The Daily Telegraph called, "Red Bull 'may have triggered heart condition that killed student' " reported the death of a 21-year-old woman who died after drinking four cans of Red Bull as well as alcohol at "social levels".[28] It was believed, but had not been proven, that she suffered from a rare heart condition called long QT Syndrome.[28] She was on medication for epilepsy and had an abnormally large heart. A medical examination found that there were no illegal drugs in her system. The article quoted a doctor as saying, "The coroner recorded that the 21-year-old woman died of natural causes."[2
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Posted 18/3/2013 13:50
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More on glucuronolactone... Says the Vietnam stuff is a myth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucuronolactone
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Posted 18/3/2013 13:51
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Glucuronolactone has received some notoriety due to urban legends that it was a Vietnam War-era drug manufactured by the American government. The rumor goes on to say that it was banned due to brain tumor-related deaths. The rumor has since been proven false, due to irreality of the cited British Medical Journal article and non-event "banning of its consumption". Furthermore, no warnings appear on the Food and Drug Administration website regarding its potential to cause brain tumors or other maladies.[2]
[edit]Uses

Glucuronolactone is rapidly absorbed and metabolized into non-toxic metabolites such as xylulose. In addition, humans may be able to use glucuronolactone as a precursor for ascorbic acid synthesis.[3] According to The Merck Index, it is also used as a detoxicant.[4]
Glucuronolactone is a popular ingredient in energy drinks with claims that it detoxifies the body. Although levels of glucuronolactone in energy drinks can far exceed those found in the rest of the diet, the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) has concluded that exposure to glucuronolactone from regular consumption of energy drinks is not a safety concern. The no-observed-adverse-effect level of glucuronolactone is 1000 mg/kg/day.[5]
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Posted 18/3/2013 13:56
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Posted 30/4/2015 13:45
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Saw this post on facebook

So apparently Pepsi are removing aspartame from their diet brands due to public opinion and demand.

However there is very little in the way of evidence to prove that aspartame causes health risks when taken in a moderate dose.

Here is a good table showing how many cans you would need to drink a day to hit the recommended 'safe' intake.... 17 cans anyone??

By the way, the safe intake is set 100 times lower than what is considered to be the toxic dose...... Thats 170 cans folks....

More worrying is the fact that the are replacing it with sucralose (US only), that has a safety limit less than 1/3rd that of aspartame.......

Want a diet coke?? Go for it.....





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Posted 30/4/2015 13:45
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Not sure Ryan, read a fair bit of compelling info on aspartame and it's side effects. Plenty of info online (and yes, you have to sift through the conspiracy and far fetched stuff online I realise!). What 'they' say is safe and what is safe are two different things, remember the trans fats that took years to be removed with food manufacturers denying any problem with them!?
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Jonathan, as said the 'safe' level here is 100 times below what is considered the toxic levels, so to get close to the toxic level you'd have to drink an unholy amount......

Particularly as they are replacing it in this instance with something that could be considered more toxic. No credible research exists showing issues in what would be considered a safe and reasonable dose.
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Sorry to spam your wall Ryan, but here's a good starting point for studies looking at the safety of aspartame...
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Haha, that's quite extensive Nick
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Jonathan Fear Thing is though Ryan, I don't trust the food industry and their claims. They brought on obesity after-all with the low fat lie because the original report was battered by the powerful money in the sugar industry in the US. Hence the low fat products full of sugar, chemicals and additives to put back the taste taken out by the fat. The great lie! (Not that I'd eat processed ready meals anyway but many have and buy into the lie of these diet products)

When they say it is safe, I don't take it as said, that is for sure!
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Is aspartame bad for you? The artificial sweetener, used in a huge variety of diet products from soft drinks to yoghurts, chewing gum to frozen desserts, is being dropped by Diet Pepsi in the US. “Aspartame is the number one reason consumers are dropping diet soda,” says Seth Kaufman, vice-president of Pepsi, whose sales of diet soda dropped 5% in the US last year. But why?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2015/apr/28/diet-pepsi-d...


There have been large-scale randomised trials and cohort studies investigating it, including those undertaken by the US National Cancer Institute and the European Food Safety Authority – all of which concluded aspartame is safe in moderate doses.

Yet it has been linked to multiple sclerosis, lupus, brain tumours, blindness, seizures, mental health problems and birth defects, probably because its components can, in high enough doses, be harmful. But aspartame doesn’t contain high quantities of aspartic acid (also found in avocados and asparagus), or methanol (found in beer, wine and tomatoes). Phenylalanine is harmful, but only to the unlucky few with phenylketonuria, a rare genetic disorder. For everyone else, aspartame is safe. The daily recommended dose is 40mg per kg of body weight. For perspective, you would have to drink 12 cans of Diet Pepsi to hit that.
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Posted 30/4/2015 13:46
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Just the US... UK not got any health issues then!?
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Posted 30/4/2015 14:00
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I don't trust them either claiming x amount of doses is ok for you doooon't you worry,,,feck off i don't want any aspertame in anything me or my kids consume thank you very much, i suppose a dab of sionide here oh and whilst yam at it go add some other chemical sh*t that burns the insides out,,,cheaky ba**ads,

Makes me cringe reading this sh*t cos when i was younger in my teens i drank between 2 litre bottles of coke sometimes on a weekend i would get through loads of them, my kids am happy with fruit juices no fizzy crap.

And it does make you wonder what in modern society these chemicals added to societies diet intake problems they have really caused.
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Posted 30/4/2015 14:08
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You'd have been having the full sugar version though, so no aspartame mate.
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Posted 30/4/2015 14:27
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Are true, damn it so i can't blame the ba**ads for the way i am pfffff
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Posted 30/4/2015 15:52
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When they say you'd have to drink x amount of cans, they are trying to distract you from the fact that when it is in so much food/drink/medicines/mouthwash it is quite easy to get a very high dose throughout the day.

If it's so safe why do you have to wear protective gear and breathing apparatus when you are dealing with it?


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