Vital Football

Latest Aston Villa News

Then and Now At Villa (12)

Then and Now At Villa (12)

Let The Lion Stand Proud!

There was a time when R-R wasn't only the acronym for Rolls-Royce. It also stood for Rinder-Ramsay, who were the 'Rolls Royce' partnership of the day in football management terms.

Both these gentlemen were involved in Aston Villa until their deaths. George Ramsay's deep involvement with the Villa lasted for 60 years (1875-1935), while Rinder was involved for 57 years (1881-1938) but he only became well known over 10 years after first becoming a member of the club. From 1893 to 1925, these two were the main driving force in the club's management, and immediately from the time Rinder had a senior role, the club took off and dominated the world of association football at club level. Furthermore, after effectively being ousted in 1925, Rinder was called back when Villa's status was reduced by relegation in 1936. Aged 78, he immediately set off to Europe sign up a new team manager, the then famed Jimmy Hogan, and died on Christmas Day, 1938 having seen his beloved club brought back into the top flight and with players that were a credit to the club.

But since Rinder's death Aston Villa has seen virtually no-one on the board of directors that has been able to measure up to his understanding of what is needed to even begin to restore Aston Villa back to greatness. Yes, between 1969 and 1982 there was a further marvellous resurrection of the club, but it can be argued that those achievements were more to do with the club being carried forward on a wave of pent-up emotion: in 1982, and despite its then recent great successes, the club was substantially in debt and haemorrhaging badly. Cue the return of Doug Ellis to bring back financial control but also a more limited vision and the reduction of the club to the backwaters since the start of the Millennium. And a state of affairs today when we're back to the status of affairs prevalant at the end of Ellis's reign.

ASTON VILLA. As John Gregory famously and proudly said, there's a symmetry in those two 5-letter words. The club's name once stood as the finest - the Rolls-Royce (another two words of 5 letters!) - of what was best in football. Aston Villa was once the most famous football club in the world and until 1982 it stood a good chance of re-claiming that status as it's lead as the nation's biggest winner of domestic trophies had only just been overtaken by Liverpool. And Villa had just become only the fourth English club to win the European Cup.

The restoration of Aston Villa to anything near top status will today require a club owner with a combination of sound business skills, a real affinity with football and a substantial amount of money. And, probably, his acceptance that he's not going to make personal profit out of his investment. It's not like the situation in Rinder's day, but it does require leadership of the kind that Rinder possessed. Restoration of the club cannot be expected to take place overnight, and the FFR situation rather points (in my opinion) to the need for Villa to re-build from grass roots. The club does have a good infrastructure for youth development, though it requires a greater throughput of Premier League talent. We have had too many players come through who promised much in their early years (the Moore brothers etc.) but then fell away.

But building from youth was the way that the club, under Rinder, re-built itself after 1900 when Villa's old stars retired. And when a young player didn't come through to fill a particular spot, then the club went out and bought the needed player. And there was always a careful blend of young and experienced players. It was a commonsense approach that worked. And it can work again. Someone has to develop new players as future stars, so why not Aston Villa?

The Lion can, and will, roar again!

Up the Villa!

John Lerwill

For more history and stats , why not visit John's history site: www.lerwill-life.org.uk/astonvilla/. Further, why not enjoy an in-depth read of Villa's history? Click here for more info.

Win FREE pizza with Vital Football!
Select your team and get 50% off if they score twice.
www.papajohns.co.uk/football



Click here to join in the debate on the club forum.

Writer:John Lerwill
Date:Monday June 2 2014
Time: 9:08AM

Best of Vital Network

Login to post a comment

Recent Aston Villa Articles

Nigel Pearson NOT Aston Villa Bound - Rammed

Phew (for me) and doh (for others!) Nigel Pearson has gone to Derby County

Di Matteo Appointment Close

Late yesterday evening it was reported that further talks between Chairman Steve Hollis and Roberto Di Matteo had taken place...

No Villa Regrets For Amavi

French Left back Jordan Amavi has said he has no regrets about joining Aston Villa last summer, and he's pretty down to earth when it comes to his thoughts...

Xia Has Bigger Plans To Benefit Aston Villa

It's being reported that new owner, or soon to be, Dr Tony Xia is already in talks to purchase a second club.

Archived Vital Villa Articles

Vital Villa articles from

Site Journalists

J P Fear
Editor email
Profile
Mike Field
Editor email
Profile
Steve Wade
no email
Profile
Villa_Grizzly
no email
Profile
Turkish Penguin
no email
Profile
Glensider
no email
Profile
Chris Heath
no email
Profile
M Calucar
no email
Profile
JuanPablo Angel
no email
Profile

Current Poll (see more polls)

Roberto Di Matteo would be:
Suggested By: JP Fear
A great appointment30%
A good appointment but I'd prefer a.n.other40%
An average appointment16%
No thanks appointment!14%
ScoopDragon Premier League Network Sites

League Table

# Team P W D L Pts. GD
C Leicester City 38 23 12 3 81 32
2 Arsenal 38 20 11 7 71 29
3 Spurs 38 19 13 6 70 34
4 Man City 38 19 9 10 66 30
5 Man Utd 38 19 9 10 66 14
6 Southampton 38 18 9 11 63 18
7 West Ham 38 16 14 8 62 14
8 Liverpool 38 16 12 10 60 13
9 Stoke 38 14 9 15 51 -14
10 Chelsea 38 12 14 12 50 6
11 Everton 38 11 14 13 47 4
12 Swansea 38 12 11 15 47 -10
13 Watford 38 12 9 17 45 -10
14 WBA 38 10 13 15 43 -14
15 Crystal Palace 38 11 9 18 42 -12
16 AFC Bournemouth 38 11 9 18 42 -22
17 Sunderland 38 9 12 17 39 -14
R Newcastle 38 9 10 19 37 -21
R Norwich 38 9 7 22 34 -28
R Aston Villa 38 3 8 27 17 -49
Vital Football Comment
Latest F1 News
Blog: Monaco Qualifying
Latest Vital Boxing News
Goodison Park Bill (29/05/16)
Write for Vital Football

Recent Aston Villa Results (view all)

Aston Villa Fixtures (view all)

Vital Members League Table

RankNamePoints
1.Pride of Lions887
2.The Fear527
3.kefkat356
4.sirdennis300
5.Fulford271
6.Lerner Out!250
7.JuanPabloAngel228
8.glensider205
9.Silhillvilla179
10.DeanoVilla175
The Vital Football Members League