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Stick or Twist?

midbedsvillan01 asks do Villa stick or twist?

Having watched the debacle at Millwall last night I thought I would wait for the furore to die down before I threw in my threepennyworth.

As what is probably our darkest hour since the late sixties appears to be approaching at a rapid rate of knots, I would ask this question should we stick with Lambert or should we change again?

Having been on the terraces during every relegation the Villa have suffered since the 58/59 season history seems to say changing the manager has little effect in changing the fortunes of teams in decline.

From when Joe Mercer took over from Eric Houghton, Cummings from Taylor and Docherty from Cummings. We stuck with Mercer when we were relegated he had a young team and he got us back. They stuck with Vic Crowe when we relegated to Division 3 in 69/70. He got us back. I know things in both financial and football terms are different now but I believe the fundamentals are still the same change is not always the answer.

Lambert has had the team for 5 months they have gone from the next best thing to sliced bread after the Liverpool game to apparently the worst team ever to put football boots for team, and Lambert from one of the up and coming coaches to one who hasn't a clue.

For people to suggest that most of these players couldn't give a toss about the club is most cases I believe is stupid most of the team are extremely young in Premier League terms and most are trying to make a future for themselves if they get it wrong they can very quickly end up as journeyman players in the lower leagues or non league as has proven in the past.

Whilst what is happening at the moment is not at all pleasant and relegation is a distinct threat and would be very depressing it is not Armageddon.

Paul Lambert is a proven coach moulding young players into teams that have been promoted to the top flight of English football, what he has been asked to do at Villa is to backwards engineer a team in the top flight to be able to remain there in one season after two seasons of decline and to do it in one season.


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Date:Saturday January 26 2013
Time: 2:00PM


I's great what he's trying to do... but does he have to do it so quickly? he could of gradually integrated a younger team, but he hasn't. In his arrogance all our experience is benched, sold or loaned out and the end result is a poor team only 1 point outside of relegation.
26/01/2013 14:15:00
midbeds, i have been blaming more so the cutbacks on the wages front by the board over the last two years tbh which have been too much too soon and deprived Villa of our Premier League status imo, and not blaming all the troubles on Lambert, but the players HE chose in the summer was a massive gamble that has backfired imenseley so he ahs to take the brunt of the stick,i would TWIST and go for John Gregory and LionHeart as his assistant would do the job, or a Curbishley til the summer and apppoint a better manager,
26/01/2013 14:18:00
Stick and we go down. Twist and we might, MIGHT still have time to stay up.
26/01/2013 14:18:00
Stick ...... I trust him to get it right, 20 odd games, with a squad that three quarters of which he has inherited, is not enough time to turn a whole club round. No quick fixes in football, just ones that prolong an inevitable decline. I'm glad he hasen't panicked in the window too and brought in someone they don't really want. Zarch, we've had these so called experienced players for the last two seasons and theyve done no different in league terms under three managers now. I believe that in three years time we will all be wondering what the fuss was all about and hailing him for what he has done for us. It's really hard to be positive and I'm nervous at every game but it needed doing three years ago so we will have to ride it out and hold on tight. UTV
26/01/2013 14:26:00
that's a fair call astonmilan. however I would rate playing the experience of the inexperence as a safer option. Build a buffer in terms of points, then experiment.
26/01/2013 14:31:00
i am sorry but Lambert is not a great coach and he is a terrible tactician , i mean have you been watching the games, 4 forwards no wingers, takes off our best player at 65 mins, same last night takes off Weimann and puts Bowery on who is not even championship class, i really want us to be ok and Lambert to, but he has lost the plot, the job is well above him. he is lost and he should be removed as soon as possible but of course same old story who would we replace him with . so i guess he will stay until we go down
26/01/2013 14:42:00
No hoice but to stick. The money our club has wasted on paying usless managers off in recent years could have bought 3 or 4 real quality premier league players. This is the price we pay for having people who do not have a f****g clue about running our wonderful football club running it. Imagine a FOOTSIE 250 business employing people who know **** all about thier business running heir company. And the suit who was on radio WM last night sounded like Mr Corporate with Randy as a ventriloquist doing the talking. Shameful days! All together now: "And its Aston Villa, Aston Villa FC, The fastest decline in football the world has ever seen" Repeat, repeat until the end of the season!! UTV
26/01/2013 15:18:00
Stick! We well find out what PL and Villa's Young team are really made of over the next few months. There's nothing bigger then a Relegation battle with the hole press against you. I feel the London press can't wait to put the needle in the coffin. Hopefully we can rise to the occasion. What happened to Young & Hungry.
26/01/2013 15:40:00
Having a young side / poor players, does not excuse poor tactics...Lambert has shown very poor tactical know how. We're down already, may as well get a decent manager now rather than later. Twist.
26/01/2013 16:16:00
Stick, - i trust both of them.
26/01/2013 16:47:00
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