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Lazy Darren Bent? Don't Make Me Laugh!

Lazy Darren Bent?  Don't Make Me Laugh!

Seems that the post match comments from Paul Lambert and those from Darren Bent were slightly different!

Lambert was saying he had no problem with Bent, he didn`t drop him, he just made a different team selection!

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Seems to be the major talking point between fans at the moment, we`ve done a poll and an article or two re: who do you play up front.

One caller to the Radio WM phone in made me laugh on the way home, he said all Bent does is score tap ins.

SO? We surely need a poacher? Reason he has struggled in the last season or two is because our other players don`t shoot or set him up so he had very little to feed off. This season we are shooting and he`ll get plenty of re-bounds etc. He also does score more than tap ins. However, some fans miss the skill involved with these players being able to read the game and being in the right place at the right time. People say he is lazy. People said the same about Michael Owen, Robbie Fowler, Gary Linekar etc. All great strikers. We need a man who just puts the ball in the net.

He is the sort of selfish striker I think we`ve missed for a long time.

Bent said after the game it had been a hard few weeks first losing the captaincy and then being dropped. I`m not sure yet that this sort of man management is going to help us, time will tell. He answered his critics coming on and scoring. Both Kevin Phillips and Dwight Yorke said (yes, I'm sad enough to record the games to re-watch as well as going!) the goal he took was far harder to take than it looked and required good skill.

Hopefully he`ll not be dropped... sorry, not selected again. We might just rely on his goals to keep us in the league this season as we undertake this massive transition under Lambert.

On the twittershere: James Nursey ‏@JamesNursey
Bent was definitely unhappy & shocked at being on bench. But Lambert did warn him in Saturday's Mirror

When Lambert was asked, he rightly said there aren`t favourites and no one is big enough not to be dropped at some point.

"I don't have any favourites. Everybody is in the same boat. It doesn't matter to me who is worth what, it is who is performing. The team is more important than any individual - we have to get a winning team. Christian coming in has been a major help to us and been huge. Gabby getting back fully fit has been a big help as well.'

Been surprised personally - and obviously Lambert is only just through the door, he is going to have to 'play` around with things to get a full feel of this team, what each player is capable of etc, so this isn`t a criticism - that Benteke has been put straight into the team and not introduced a little more slowly. Massive jump up the Belgian league and Ghent to the Premiership and Villa.

That said, Lamberts side, in Lambert we trust... so !!!!!!!!!!!!

Must say I was surprised at the poll result: SO.. Who Do We Play Up Front v Baggies?

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And a reminder a post from holtelower:

Bent is our best forward by an absolute country mile - in fact - hang on five , I'll find the stats....

Darren Bent - 148 goals
Gabby - 54 goals
Weimann - 6 goals
Benteke - 45 goals

So Darren Bent 148 goals - the rest put together 105 goals

Or lets put Bent's Villa career into perspective - 43 games 19 goals -so a one in two strike rate, in the worst Villa team I have ever seen.

It is 100% obvious to me, we play this style of football and Darren Bent will get at least 25 goals this year - put it this way, if he was on the pitch on Wed - and Gabby's ball was parried - are you telling me Bent wouldn't have been there to tap it in ? He also set Benteke up 3 times in 7 minutes against Swansea. Then against Southampton he put us in the lead - then Benteke had the chance to kill the game off and put us two nil up and missed - and the rest is history.

Gabby and Bent showed under Houllier they can be a formidable combination.

And now we have a manager who is going to play to their strengths, people want him dropped for a player who has scored 1 goal ?

I bloody hope Benteke goes on to be a Villa legend, however at the moment, he reminds me of Heskey, but he came from abroad, not Leicester so people somehow think he is fantastic. Unbelievable

Yup, I often wish he`d come off the fence and say what he really thinks as well!

Darren Bent Forum Thread

Writer:J P Fear
Date:Monday October 1 2012
Time: 1:03PM


how could benteke remind you of heskey!!?!?
01/10/2012 13:28:00
Think we all better get used to the fact that Lambert will try out different formations throughout the season as he did at Norwich. He is looking for consistancy of performance and against different sides I am sure Bent will again be first choice, in some games I am sure Benteke will drop to the bench at least rotating the strikers will keep them hungy and determined. But yes I do trust Lambert to get it right we needed the boost in numbers which we now have hopefully the next step will be to add less bodies and more quality.
01/10/2012 13:48:00
Darren Bent should be first choice striker. Villa simply aren't good enough at the moment without his contributions. His goals -- arguably -- kept the club up last year. However, eventually Villa will be built around Benteke and Weimann and strikers of that ilk. Owen, Lineker and Fowler wouldn't get into the first eleven of the big five (Man Utd, Man Citeh, Arsenal, spurs and Chelsea) today. They probably wouldn't even get into the squads. There are reasons Owen is currently at Stoke, no longer plays for England and rarely started for Man Utd even when fit. Poaching is dying out. Few -- if any -- of the top European club sides use one. Lambert might have put Bent on the bench because he wanted to try a different system without him. If he did it was probably a mistake. Bent is experienced and a team player. His type of striker though is on the way out in the medium to long term. Villa can player a system with DB9 at the focal point -- for now -- but if the club wants to get back into the big time then new ideas and approaches might be needed.
01/10/2012 14:10:00
Yep Merlin you're correct Iv said it a few times in the comments Norwich started with more different formations than any other team in the EPL last year... It amazes me how people criticise DB9 the most difficult thing in football is putting the ball in the net we have a player who does it on the reg and people think he brings nothing to the team... Amazing absolutely amazing... I remember a game against Liverpool a few years ago he did jack***** for the game and ended up scoring the winner... Now I know they are vastly different players but the end product is the same... Goalscorers are like this they can do nothing for 85minutes then bang theres the late winner or equaliser your team never looked like scoring... His all round game has improved since he came here he isnt great in the air but he does enough to win a few and put defenders under pressure... He has flaws in his game I think he will even admit that he isnt the most technically gifted player his touch can be found wanting at times having said that striking the ball and hitting the back of the net does require significant skill so he clearly has ability... DB was the missing piece in the puzzle when we were top 6 too many games Carew and Gabby missed chances DB would have scored... We have finally have a 20 goal a season striker and a proven goalscorer and people complain... Top managers have said he is one of the best off the ball strikers int he game and people complain... To any doubters would you have Hernandez in your team and over DB9? If yes why?
01/10/2012 14:22:00
I don't disagree with much of what is said above, but I think we need to stop thinking of rotation, team changes, experiments - whatever - in terms of being 'right' or 'mistakes'. Managers simply have to experiment with different personnel and formations in live Prem matches - there is no other way. Sometimes it will go well and sometimes it won't, but a decent manager will learn something every match. It's more complicated than that, though - the manager also has to find the right personnel and formation for every different team we play. Isn't that complexity what makes football the beautiful game?
01/10/2012 15:09:00
Ahem. Let me clear my throat pre-rant about DB9...... I've said it all before and can't be bothered to repeat as it offends some for various reasons. VWRA ( I think) put it well in another article. Bent's time is gone. We need a multi talented striker/attacker/finisher/holder upper etc. he wil do we'll as a solskjaer type player and may well start in some but should DEFINITELY NOT be the first name on the team sheet or captain....
01/10/2012 15:10:00
Agree 100%, Bob the Builder. Brendan Rodgers stumbled upon some answers to his many problems when he was forced to field a second string against WBA who played better than the first team. You are absolutely right there are no 'right' or 'wrong' answers. Just results. Win, lose or draw.
01/10/2012 15:34:00
I'm sorry but we definately need DB9 in the team. We do need a multi talented striker/attacker/finisher/holder upper etc but we haven't got one. Given the chances DB9 will deliver. No one else can regularly score for us. Gbby may chip in with the odd goal here and there until Xmas but that ain't good enough. Midfield won't be scoring much, so where is the goals coming from if DB9 isn't in the team. Some times I despair...........
Pride of Lions
01/10/2012 15:38:00
correctomondo, PoL. Bent isn't world class but he does the job for Villa. Time and time again. He and the club are made for each other. He might not be with the Villa when they get back to the big time but he'll have helped them get there. And the fans will remember.
01/10/2012 15:45:00
Most of them!!!
01/10/2012 15:46:00
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