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Lambert On Captain Colossal

Paul Lambert has said he made the captaincy change because of Roncrete's natural leadership abilities, it wasn't a reflection on the job Benty's had been doing.

Speaking to the Official Site the gaffer explained.

'Ron was amazing. When he took the ball on the run for 40 yeards? I told him, I pay him to defend, don't even do it! But I thought he was colossal. He and Ciaran and the two full backs were excellent. In terms of the decision, I just wanted to give Darren a break to concentrate on scoring. At Newcastle and against Swansea he has been excellent.'

Fair comments really. Vlaar is the natural captain in the side both in terms of his attitude but also in his play, and fair for Bent to get some praise as well as his workrate is much improved on last season and he's certainly putting the effort in.

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Writer: Mike Field Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday September 18 2012

Time: 3:52PM

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" I pay him to defend".......wish that were true. If he were really running the finances I think things would be tighter than Top Cat's tipping strategy. I want PL to renegotiate my mortgage.
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18/09/2012 16:01:00

Lambert has turned up, brought his own signings and got rid/froze out the old. He couldn't just drop Bent immediately though as Lerner has invested so much and thinks very highly of him,( judging from the first few training sessions when DB9 first turned up anyway. )He isn't multi-talented enough to be in a top squad and this is just the start of him being edged out. I know PL said that he wants Vlaar to concentrate on defending but he doesn't want him to stand on the edge of his own area for 90 mins. At the other end of the scale, he doesn't want Bent to just sit at the edge of the oppositions 6 yard box and poach. Sadly, that's all he can do.
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18/09/2012 16:13:00

I regret that some Villa fans seem unable to accept that players go through 'bad patches', although history says that most of them do - and especially strikers. Why do we feel the need to attack our own? DB is putting in the effort and is bringing others into play (Christian Benteke is flavour of the month but should probably have scored off DB's assist on Saturday). Everyone says PL is getting everything right - but that doesn't seem to extend to his decision to play Bent, or his stated opinion, that he played excellently against Newcastle and Swansea. We fans expect absolute loyalty from Villa players - look at the reaction if they want a move - but doesn't that mean we have to show some loyalty to them in return?
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18/09/2012 16:21:00

Never rated him Bob, no loss of loyalty here...Some will say that he kept us up last year?!?!? Some say it was Robbie Keane, some say it was Shay, three teams being worse than us (if that's possible!!) There's a million different things that kept us up, not 1 person. He offers absolutely nothing other than goal hanging. People always take it personally when someone has a go at him. Why?? When he's gone he won't care for us, he's a mercenary only bothered about himself. I've been moaning about the way the whole team has to put him as the centre of the universe for him to be effective for some time (well before Benteke turned up.) This detracts severely from their abilities to maybe play to their best. Lambert knows this and therefore Bent is useless because he won't carry someone who is just going to take all the glory by getting the final touch every time when everyone else is capable of scoring aswell as doing a job for the team. I regret that SOME Villa fans seem unable to see the wood for the trees. This is NOT a bad patch, this is proper football, a team game, not everyone working their arses off to pass it to someone who is perched on the edge of the 6 yard box.
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18/09/2012 17:00:00

Vill444 are you really Prep lol, Bent will get goals he has been leading the line on his own literally, now Big Ben is here he will take some of the burden of his shoulders like he did saturday, Benteke and Bent may well be a formidable partnership me thinks UTV! Vlaar is class what a great signing he was and for the money 3million pfff we paid 9 million for Curtis Davies lol unreal, Lambert is the Messiah here to resurect Villa!
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18/09/2012 17:42:00

Vlaar is a great captain, he has a phenomenal work rate and his command of the back four is spot on.
Green Villan
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18/09/2012 17:49:00

Sorry what?!?! I'm confused... What should Bent be doing? Should he be playing the 30 yard pin point passes from midfield? Or should he be the hard tackling enforcer? Maybe give him some gloves? Because sitting in front of the goal and scoring seems to be unacceptable now... The guy is on a bit of a goal drought and now the daggers come out. At the beginning of this season he was averaging 1 goal every 2 games for us. Do you realise how good that is!
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18/09/2012 17:57:00

444, Did DB9 steal your sweets at school? Nobody should be bothered if he knocks them in from half-an-inch out or gets em' from Maradona Mexico 86 type dribbles-through-the defence. They all count. Yes, the role of the striker has evolved but -- and we've had this debate before -- Klose for Germany and a few others are 'goal hanging' strikers that are used and valued by creative football teams. We don't know how Lambert views DB9. The name Darren Bent will never be mentioned alongside Gerd Mueller, Alan Shearer or Didier Drogba. But he's still an effective forward. Brendan Rodgers would probably do anything to have Bent or someone comparable at L'Pool right now.
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18/09/2012 18:32:00

are you watching the games 444 or just reading the linescore? DB9 made a a few superb services in the box last game, not to mention the attention he draws from the opposing defenders allows other the needed space to work. My fear is that fans with questionable soccer knowledge raise a big enough stink and cause DB9 to feel the pressure to fill the net, than start forcing shots instead of continuing to select the best option. IMO, Bent is not getting enough credit for his work rate.
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18/09/2012 18:54:00

Do you want to play as the likes of Eck did gents?? Lambert and his way of playing is the future. We don't need a poacher as we'll have many different formations and attacking styles. Bent only works with 1 of these as he's 1 dimensional. We will get goals from all areas of the team and we don't need someone who offers nothing other than goalhanging when we can have 11 multi talented instead of 10. Nothing personal with Bent, I just don't rate him and don't understand the adulation when he's never earnt it from us fans. Astriel 1 goal in 2 games is great BUT NOT IF IT STOPS EVERYONE ELSE SCORING. How many did he assist, how many games did we win with him scoring. That's the stats that you want to look at. The whole team lives to pass him the ball in the 6 yard box and it's so easy to play against.
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18/09/2012 19:05:00

LOL Frossum. You've got it the wrong way round son. It's obvious who's never played before reading some posts. His work rate is good. His talent (at everything other than kicking the ball with his right foot once over 3-12 yards ) is definitely not. You may watch the games but it doesn't mean that you know what you're talking about. Can't pass, head, tackle, dribble. LOL @ questionable soccer knowledge. Are you american and female by any chance??
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18/09/2012 19:09:00

bent can head btw 444 i can remember a few execellent headed goals he scored for sunderland and i dont see what is wrong with a poacher they score goals lol and and yes i agree we will start getting more goal from other players because we have a NEW manager and NEW players benty is a natural goal scorer he just isnt on form currently but it will come without a doubt
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18/09/2012 19:54:00

He's not prolific with his head black_villan. Very average. Doesn't score with his left, can't take a touch and then finish, has to be first time, doesn't create chances for anyone INCLUDING Himself. He does absolutely nothing but poach with his right inside 12 yards. I've gone on more than enough but i know I won't be proved wrong in time as he's too old to change his style and ways.
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18/09/2012 20:14:00

444, I take it you are happy with Vlaar then? PL picks the team and he is the manager so I will back who he fields on the day, win, lose or draw. Support the team and talk them up. What I do know is that DB9 is better than you......:-). Peace. UTV. 19th for Stan.
holte ender 1969
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18/09/2012 20:31:00

Lol. Vlaar is captain material 1969. He couldn't bring him in and make him captain before he's settled in a bit. bent won't be first choice soon. His wage and status as our record signing means he can't be left out straight away. And yes lol, Bent is better than me and many others in the 6 yard box but I'm sure even you'd be as good as him if all you ever had to do was goal hang and kick the ball with your right foot every day for 15 years. Lol. He really should be better at many other things!!
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18/09/2012 22:00:00

The end is nigh...Where's that B side 444? Also, if there is a fit American lady on here then that's not a bad thing...unless she's out of your league? Seriously though, not getting personal but much of what is leveled at Bent by you is not what I have seen over the last few games and yes, I understand that of course you will base on your observations since he came here but give him a chance. He was immense against Swansea. He may change and he may not but the only thing the records will show is his excellent strike rate since we bought him.
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18/09/2012 22:11:00

I've heard he's a great cook at least that's what I think they say...and people always seem to remark that he comes from Kent, at least I think that's what they say...
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18/09/2012 22:13:00

444 - read your comments and see how often you contradict yourself . Firstyou say Bent cant head the the ball , then you decide he can , but not enough . you say he cant assist . The game that I watched , without Bent hating blinkers on , saw Bent head Bannan's cross back into play , teeing up Benteke perfectly only for him to fluff his shot . It was Bent's header forward that Ashley Williams headed back poorly for Benteke to run onto and score . Can't head ? doesn't add anything to the team ? Please ... Every article no matter what the subject matter seems to get hijacked by you and your fixation with DB9 . Save it for relevant articles . And " American and female ?" WTF ? that's just rude .
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18/09/2012 22:26:00

Paul pays him to score goals. If he doesnt score goals then PC Bent will come round and have a strong word....sorry drifted into Trumpton land there momentarily. Ah em - bearing in mind that in two half seasons hes scored 20 goals, or thereabouts, I dont think he s the new Heskey just yet. BTW did you see that Heskey is off to the "A league" (Oz). I understand that the deal involves free passage by ship and sheep shearing on the weekends.
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444. You are on your own on the DB9 issue. We have demanded a goalscorer for years. We now have a man proven at club and international level who averages a goal every 2 games. And you are moaning??? I have read with interest your posts on a number of subjects. We now all know that you have a dislike of Lerner and DB9. You pretty much seem to be on your own with these views , but for some reason want to keep up the slagging off of our own. Are you hoping that by constantly slagging your own that others will join you and you can feel that you have friends??? You are certainly no Villa supporter and are probably on here as a supporter of Small Heath/ Dingles/manure or whoever with an agenda to create disharmony amongst fans who are now very firmly behind the current regime and playing squad. Give it a rest fella or go and join the site of the club you support, not the club who you are constantly slagging off.
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19/09/2012 00:01:00

DB9 is the best goal scorer we have had since yorke. He will miss a few but he will net a lot more. Every team needs a poacher 444(just ask arsenal). Most pundits think DB9 is our key to staying up. I think we will be fine, but to be moaning about bent is completely unjustified!!! Well said voiceoftheholte!!!utv
king villa
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19/09/2012 00:30:00

Villa 444 used to go by a different moniker.....AVFC????
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19/09/2012 07:45:00

Wind up merchant then??? Shame we do not have a like and dislike button for comments. I wonder how many dislikes 444 would get. Here's one.........DISLIKE :-)
holte ender 1969
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19/09/2012 08:36:00

It's like talking to a bunch of kids. Why do you take it personally when I slag off Bent with very good reason. Collymore is of the same opinion to name a few, again with good reason. It's OK for people to not like other players but why not Bent?? It's a myth that he wins teams games. The team wins the ******** game. You don't get out enough if you've not heard anyone else moaning about Lerner VOTH. You wouldn't hear a bad word against Eck until you changed your mind. Just because everyone doesn't agree with your strong views makes them a non supporter does it now you fool?? I don't bother reading your posts normally as they all say the same thing. I'm firmly behind PL and his regime. It really is a shame that people can't take a look from the outside without their Claret and Blue tinted glasses on. If Bent was playing for another team, you'd all have a totally different opinion of him. Arsenal don't need a poacher FFS king villa, it never stops them getting top 4. Strikers normally can poach aswell as everything else that goes with the role. Bent cannot. That is the problem!!
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19/09/2012 09:58:00

Cant agree with villa444 on his summing up of Bent but I would say all strikers suffer a loss of form at times and for some reason in this country there seems a reluctance to drop a "big name" probably in case they go off in a huff and ask for a transfer. Rooney being a prime example England play him even when hes crap why ? because hes a world class player not if hes off form hes not. I doubt that Lambert will cater to this though if Bent is not producing for him can see him being dropped same as Shay. Lambert is a good manager he knows what hes doing.
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19/09/2012 10:34:00

444 you totally miss the point of being a 'supporter'. There is no problem in you not liking Bent or Lerner. That is a matter of opinion. What you do though is to constantly slag off these people. Who gives a monkeys if Stan Collymore thinks like you. Is this the same Stan Collymore that was bigging up our previous manager and advised Lerner to stick with him. The same man that cost us 12m in transfer fee and wages, but left for nothing. The same man who beats up his girlfriend in a bar? We get it. You do not like a player who when fit is an England regular and scorer. Who is the second top scoring English player in the last 5 years. But to consistently slag them off is anti support. You do not like them, so you have to belittle them!!!! And you call yourself a supporter???? And if Bent was playing for another team we would have a totally different opinion of him, on that you are correct. When he was at Spurs Villa fans were demanding to sign him for 12m. He went to Sunderland. We then demanded we sign him from Sunderland and it cost 24m, provided by Randolph (and you slag him off???). Now we have got the goal scorer we have always craved, you want to constantly throw internet abuse at him. Get a life. Put away your crayons and tell your parents that they really should have parental control over the sites their children use. Supporter?? Abuser more like. Up the Villa. The 19th minute.
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19/09/2012 11:34:00

LOL Voice. You just lemmingly support anything in claret and blue. You did with Eck until your mates had had enough and you changed your tune. There is always room for improvement and if everyone supported any old rubbish like you then we would be watching Eck's football for years. Some of us have NEVER EVER craved Bent. You don't speak for everyone (believe it or not.) Angel, Saunders and Philips in recent times were much better. I'd rather even have Carew on his top form as he's a proper striker. Football isn't black and white. It's a shame that you childishly resort to centuries old attempts at insults RE: crayons just because you like Bent and I don't. The argument could go on forever and it has become much too infantile ( even for me lol.) I'm going to agree to disagree whether you are or not. I love the Villa, I just don't like Bent, nothing personal, just the way that he plays. It's not abuse, I'm not calling him names, I just don't think that he's very good. And he isn't going to be an England regular ever, and never was with 13 appearances at the age of 28 !!!!!
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19/09/2012 12:33:00

Takes all views on footie and the players. That is my humble opinion! :O)
The Fear
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19/09/2012 13:05:00

we were ripped off with Bent you couldn't sell him for half we paid.
Nerrad Villa
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19/09/2012 13:08:00

444 oh dear oh dear oh dear. A few straighteners for you. I never wanted the previous manager. I gave him time after he was appointed. As soon as he confirmed he wasn't up to the job I supported the the club by demanding and protesting for his removal. I am not a Bentophobe. I see his limitations. However as a supporter I choose not to critisise his limitations but would rather 'support' (you have no concept of that word as a very irregular visitor to the club) his positive attributes. That being the ability to find space and score more regularly than most other English players on the planet. I have no issue with you not liking Bent, it is your choice and we are all entitled to an opinion. I disagree with yours thats all. But what I object to as a supporter (that word again) is other supposed supporters constantly sticking the knife in just because thay do not share the views of the majority. If you are not keen, fine, but do not come on hear with the abuse of our own. Your view of him as lazy, selfish, useless, goal hanging, mercenary (all your terms in this thread) is fairly abusive. And I would understand your views if we were talking playground soccer. But you may not realise players nowadays can't goal hang (time for your crayons again I think) as they would be offside all the time. And good strikers (like Bent imho) have a skill in learning how to time their runs and how to be in the right space at the right time. How many times do we see ball go across the 6 yard box and hear the crowd say we just needed somebody on the end of that. Well that somebody is Darren Bent because it is the most difficult skill in the game to be a goal scorer. But according to that font of all knowledge, 444, all you need to do to be a goalscorer is to be a useless, lazy, selfish, mercenary goal hanger and the ball just suddenly arrives at your feet and you just kick it in the net with your right foot. Simples. Why hasn't everybody thought of it? Come on please wardens, take this boys keyboard off him, put him back into the playroom and let somebody who actually supports the club have a go with the keyboard this time.
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19/09/2012 13:36:00

Th-th-th-that's All Folks...
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19/09/2012 13:50:00

Yawn Voice. Please come up with some new abuse. Everyone has heard it all before. I don't live in a Villa supporters area so there are different supporters using the PC when it has been wrestled off me or it's time to go back to my cell. The benefits of not being surrounded by everyone supporting the same team means that I can have an open view on things and am not brainwashed into anything (like thinking that the sun shines out of Bent's arse.) Thank The Lord McGrath that you really aren't a voice for any group of fans. Just a writer for some 2 bit company by the looks of things. Lazy selfish Mercenary are facts you feckwit, not abuse. Feckwit is abuse if you didn't realise. You reckon that you don't rate him much but would support him regardless. You made any more banners and tried to get your daughter arrested like you did last year you stupid CNUT. I'm just discussing it on a website and putting across my views. Not everyone will agree. You're lying about last year aswell. You were all get behind the manager. Next week on, you were all sack the manager. You really are a waste of space and not as clever as you think when your face was on an article last year, you won't be able to hide behind your keyboard....
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19/09/2012 13:50:00

Never hid fella. People know where I sit. I wear my loyalty with pride. There appears to be only one hiding behind a keyboard. However You and I will never meet unless I send you directions to Villa Park. In fact here they are. Leave the M6 (it is the big wide road that runs through Birmingham) at Junction 6. Follow the signs to Villa Park (this is the home of Aston Villa football Club and its supporters) and you will come to a big stadium (this is Villa Park). For sat nav purposes use B6 6HE. Buy a ticket for the Upper Holte End (by buying you will actually be supporting so that will be a novelty) then come up and have a chat. Near the front, just to the right of the goal. you know what I look like. And if you don't like the look of me, have a chat with my daughter. She will put you straight fella. And as for getting her arrested you wanchor, she and I both received written apologies from the club on their behaviour. Dont expect to be seeing you anytime soon.
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19/09/2012 14:32:00

V444, regardless of banter and name calling, it simply isn't right to drop the C-bomb, in any form. I share the same view as VOTH when asking for a slightly more level view of Bent rather than just the negatives but there you go - it is your view and to an extent some of what you say is banter and I'm quire sure you arent AVFC48 in disguise and that you do support the club...could you show a tiny teeny bit of flexibility regarding Bents last match and his three goal chance creating headers? VOTH, i understand your anger too but both of you now need to let the other have the last word and move on. P.S Leave families out of it.
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19/09/2012 14:53:00

PPS...looking at a silver linging: this is great entertainment and just shows how we ALL care how the Villa do and only want the best, regardless of alleged myopia or claret and blue tinted glasses.
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19/09/2012 14:55:00

koolbill I hear you chap. And I agree with it showing how supporters care . . . . . doh there I go again mentioning supporters. and you as well 444
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19/09/2012 15:10:00

passion for Villa in all forms is welcome, but surely it doesnt have to come down to c-bombs and personal jibes. essentially the argument is about Darren Bent, a footballer at the club we all support, and none of us have any control over whether or not he plays, obviously. So perhaps some perspective is needed. I personally think he's a good striker who scores goals, but who hasn't offered much to the team aside from these goals. his overall game could definitely be improved. But, I doubt that will be enough for Lambert, so he will adapt and hopefully continue to be successful for us (he still has a 1 in 2 goal average), or wither on the vine like a Michael Owen. Either way, we will all continue to be Villa fans with strong opinions, passion, and fire. I'm still (relatively) new on this forum, but I think that much can be agreed upon. UTV x
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19/09/2012 15:55:00

Play nicely boys........As long as we are progressing and winning our fair share of games, then who cares who plays????
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19/09/2012 15:56:00

444 always makes me chuckle. As soon as someone disagrees with him out come the insults - 'feckwit', 'it's obvious who's never played before', 'are you American and female', 'It's like talking to a bunch of kids', 'You don't get out enough', 'you fool', 'CNUT', 'You're lying', 'You really are a waste of space'. You always know that you have won the argument when your opponent starts abusing you.
chocolate teapot
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19/09/2012 17:33:00

amen teapot
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19/09/2012 17:50:00

444 has gone a little quiet. Maybe he will be back on tomorrow when he is allowed back on the school computer?
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19/09/2012 18:37:00

I think we need to support 444 to the extent that next time he wins the wrestling match for the PC - pride at stake here boys - especially if he is in for footballing related offences in which case I am on his side even though I dont agree with him. Regarding Darren - I had my doubts when he came I have to say but on balance he has done the business and if he wants to go to Brazil he has to come good for us unless we decide to sell him (v unlikely). Also - what is said here will make f-all difference to whether he stays or goes. Booing him constantly at the game would be different of course......there's a challenge :)
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19/09/2012 21:14:00

And here was I thinking this was a blog about Vlaar.....
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19/09/2012 21:19:00

Eck out.
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20/09/2012 09:04:00

Bent out.
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20/09/2012 20:52:00

koolbill lmao
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21/09/2012 08:55:00


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