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The most recent Supporters Consultation Group meeting took place ahead of the Everton clash, and here are the questions in all their glory.

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Topics covered this time round include Safe Standing trials, Wine from the kiosks, signs & flags policy, smoking areas and speed of halftime service amongst a few others.

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Writer:Mike Field
Date:Tuesday September 11 2012
Time: 6:13PM


What a load of corporate spin. It is difficult to hear the music/tannoy annoucements from the top tier of the Holte. It is practically impossible to get a beer at half time due to lack of staff/single pour pumps and the fact that there aren't pre poured drinks ready. I understand the issue on the North Stand redevelopment as we can not fill the ground we have, because there are too many fickle fans/part timers/glory hunters etc. They say the use of large flags are not permitted whilst happily unfurling the largest flag in the country. The question was asked on transport but the club has a fundemental problem that will not be overcome whilst the club is based in Aston. Due to cultural changes, the ground is in a deprived part of Birmingham that is home to a 90% immigrant population. This social group have no affinity with the football club within whose shadows they live. Villa are not alone with this problem. Newcastle, Bluescouse, Redscouse etc are fortunate to have locations that have not been affected by population change over the years. So regardless of transport, Villa Park will remain a matchday venue only. The location and lack of supporters that live within the shadows of Villa Park will mean that youth/reserve games will struggle to attract support. The restaurants are underused and the Holte Pub can not open except on matchdays. The mainly muslim population have no need for pubs in the area. All the supporter consultation groups, whilst occasionally coming up with an idea, will never overcome most of the problems facing many football clubs in the future and are akin to moving the deckchairs on the Titanic. Flatten Villa Park, sell the land for development and move to the area now home to the Aston Science Park on the east side of the City Centre, next to the ThinkTank and within walking distance of the 3 Main train stations in Brum, the Metro service and every bus route into Brum. Make it the heart of the City or all the fan initiatives in the world are pointless. Big men and big leaders make big decisions. Lets forget ticking boxes and do something fundemental for the long term health of our great club. Villa Park worked upto 40 years ago. It doesn't anymore. Fortune favours the brave.
12/09/2012 09:25:00
The massive flag is controlled though voice etc...
Flatten Villa Park? Wow, didn't think you'd go for that sort of thing!?!?!? I think if Villa moved from Villa Park, my love affair would end. It is too historic a ground surely? Albeit, I understand, with all the stands now having been changed... etc. Interesting opinion that one. Agree the tannoy is no good!
the fear
12/09/2012 12:32:00
Don't know about the PA being no good. Where I sit (in the front row of the Trinity Upper) the PA is so loud that it hurts my ears. In addition, of course, the people using the microphone always feel the need to shout into it.

Any chance we can get rid of the prat who introduces the second half? I don't need to be told to support the team. I've been a Villa fan for over 50 years. I know how it works.

I've never understood the theory behind 'half time entertainment'. Surely the 'entertainment' is supposed to be when the players are on the pitch? Half time is for having a jimmy, buying a pie or, possibly, sitting head in hands hoping the second half is a marginal improvement on the first.

chocolate teapot
12/09/2012 13:12:00
Ime with you choc how much entertainment do you need for such a short break ? As for this announcement business its another dreaded americanism we dont need the gee up we are already up for it . Like choc says a Jimmy then a suspicious look at what they call pies lol mind you might add Ime in the same age bracket as choc judging by the 50 years support.
12/09/2012 13:29:00
'Voiceoftheholte's arguments are so persuasive about a move from Villa Park I am going to come out of my closet and say I agree with him! I never thought I'd say that, but it appears to me that we need people of the vision of Ramsay, Mac and Rinder at the helm to put Villa in its proper setting ... upsetting though that may be. I've written articles on my blog and on the Villa List in support.
12/09/2012 13:35:00
Oh Jeez chocolate, you've blown it now, I was going to be dancing on the pitch at half time this week and they've just cancelled!!!! Yes, I think the problem with the PA is that it is very loud in places and muffled in other places. They have had trouble with it for years, think Ellis brought in a nice cheap system when it was fitted! ;o))
the fear
12/09/2012 14:10:00
Blimey Lergy! lol... I might have to turn this into an article as a talking point I think! Trouble is, I put one up and some 'read between the lines' (where nothing is actually written) and think this is happening and I'm testing the water! LOL
the fear
12/09/2012 15:16:00
Fear - Aston is dead. Small Heath is dead. Wolves have a well placed staduim, but unfortunately for them the city is dead. There are certain clubs where the club is the hearbeat of a community, Newcastle, both Scouse clubs, Norwich amongst others. But Villa and many others, suffer nowadays due to their location. Like you I have been coming for years, for many of our age group it would be a wrench to leave Villa Park. The emotions, memories, the formative years make it almost impossible to consider. But for anyone under the age of 35 they are not likely to live within 3 miles of Villa Park. The club is no longer home to the community it serves. But most problematic is that it is not fundamentally easy to get to. There is spare land on the East of the City Centre. Easy for a majority of fans to reach by bus, train, metro or car. It would be central to the brummy community and therfore central to the people who support it. Maybe put this up as an article as you mentioned. It is painful but I believe holding onto history could hold us back. Someone with vision could bring the club into the upper echelons of the game??
12/09/2012 16:42:00
voth, I grew up near VP and one of my parents is from an 'immigrant' background. It didn't stop me from supporting my local club. You make a good argument for a change but VP is one of the most famous and historic grounds in the land. Maybe Villa should be trying harder to win fans among the local population. Aston could also rise again. Nobody knows what the future holds. The club and it's ground should represent continuity in a changing world. Both Merseyside clubs have grounds in deprived areas. They have also both -- probably -- done more than Villa in reaching out to the local communities (although I concede that those communities might -- unlike Aston -- have long standing ties to the area). It's an interesting idea you have nonetheless. You might be right but some of s don't want succes at any cost. I no longer live in B'ham but still struggle to come to terms with the changes that have taken place. The old city centre was brutalist and grim but it had character. VP has character. Do you really want some soulless rectangle in its place?
12/09/2012 17:18:00
Btw, voth I meant you make a good argument 'for change' not 'for a change'. You almost always make a good case for your views. ;-)
12/09/2012 17:20:00
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