Herd's Challenge Is Next Season

if you put me on the field id try 100% - but i would be crap compared to the pros so guess what I'm not in the squad.

villa4life on the one hand its great that football is all about opinions but on the other hand I hate the fact that players become scapegoats and are then branded as crap no matter what they do. Warnock played better than almost any other defender we played in the back four over the course of the past few seasons, maybe he's not been good enough, but he's been better than alot of others who seem to get away with less abuse (or even get praise) because he is the one that has become a scapegoat. People moan about his crossing, or his shooting but he continually gets forward to put himself in those positions whilst others who should shoulder more attacking burden do not. I'd rather have a team of average Joe's who work their socks off and die for the cause than a bunch of gifted players who stroll about and do nothing, and look at each other to see who can take the blame or who can take responsibility rather than stepping up to the plate.

warnock was good when he first came, he can find that form again if he wants to, if the right manager wants him to ... simples. But last season and the season before, he was incredibly mixed. Did ok late on in the season though imho.

Warnock has been very good for us, but for the most last season he was very bad, effort or not. However he did throw in a couple of decent and important performancs towards the latter of the season. I agree he is not one to hide and I do not dislike the guy, but he has been pretty shoddy for the most. Could say that about a few mind after the last couple of seasons...!

I am with avb&b on this one. I think Warnock can not be found lacking in effort or application. And that is all we ask as fans, that a player gives his all. If that isn't good enough then it is up to the manager to deal with that. From Christmas to mid Feb Warnock had a torrid time, culminating in the og against QPR. However he never hid. He 'manned up' and stood up to be counted. He is actually a good left back. Not my opinion but the opinion of M'ON and several managers who have had him in the England team. And all players go through poor patches. Who are we to know what may have caused this. There may have been mitigating factors that none of us would ever be aware of. I know he was never helped by having a winger (N'Zogbia) in front of him who didnt know if he should use his skills at the attacking end or be a defensive winger as McMuppet wanted him to be and he was left exposed more often than not. But this article is symptomatic of some really sh111te support from some supposed Villa supporters. Warnock has talked sensibly about one of our own youngsters and it turns into a 'lets have a pop at Warnock' forum. For goodness sake, where does it end? Can't we do anything but moan at our own players? And we wonder why the doors aren't being banged down by managers demanding the job. Wake up and smell the coffee all of you whingers who are damaging our club. You are not helping. For those who boo'd at the end of the first half, of the first game of the season against Wigan a couple of years ago, I wonder if that would be in Martinez mind as to if our job is actually that appealing??? Stop moaning. Be positive. Support the club. We can be great fans (our efforts in support of Stan show this) but we need to lift the air of despondency and stop using every little opportunity to knock our own. We are damaging the club and the wonderful reputation it has built up over the last 137 years.