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AVB for AVFC....Why Not?

Disclaimer: This article is based solely on personal opinion.

As the speculation wheel turns (hopefully for its first, last and only fortnight this time round) the current favourite is Paul Lambert. Understandable, he`s had a great season with Norwich, his team plays good attacking football and (something which tipped the scales for me in his favour) he went to the Emirates and came away with a point at the least after scoring 3 goals. Not a solid enough basis to go on but it impressed me, as I`m sure it did you.

My question is, why is Paul Lambert the favourite when there is a manager with a slightly higher-calibre CV?

Andre Villas-Boas has been out of work since he was dismissed from Chelsea. The general feeling there is that the senior players held too much sway over the dressing room and he was unable to implement his own style, much like trying to convince James Collins to go to the Carling Academy when he clearly loves a rave. However, Roman Abramovich thought enough of him to whip him out of his contract at Porto and bring him to the Premier League. Even with Abramovich`s trigger-happy nature, something impressed him enough to give him a chance. A fantastic win record and a title in his first season at Porto. Former student of Sir Bobby Robson and assistant to Jose Mourinho, the man who turns most things to gold when he touches them.

Sadly, because Chelsea didn`t win every game by 5 clear goals and everyone in the dressing room kept falling over the toys, AVB was given his marching orders. An expectation too high at this stage in his career as a manager. He was clearly the wrong man for Chelsea. But what about Aston Villa?

Paul Faulkner`s statement highlighted that the board are looking to appoint a young, vibrant manager to reinvigorate Aston Villa. Forget panicking about the Mick McCarthy rumours, that`s all they are, and if everyone believes the hype then you might as well paint your bedsheets now. Common sense dictates that we go for a manager without a club and that we won`t have to pay compensation for. AVB is a free agent. While Lambert has achieved Premier League status with Norwich, it is still too early to say whether they will sustain it next season. Lambert could well jump ship if the right offer came in, but I sincerely hope not. Roberto Martinez is linked again and would be likely to enjoy a frugal financial relationship with our chairman, but in all honesty I believe we can aim much higher in terms of managerial candidates. Brendan Rodgers is doing a job at Swansea. Let him continue to do so.

Aside from the obvious name connection indicating that he`s the right choice (that was a joke), I believe AVB would be the appropriate choice for us. If he was given time by the fans, as long as we weren`t relegated in the first season and playing attractive football, he could bring success back to Aston Villa. Trying to get John Terry to do something different is like teaching an old dog tricks he already knows with a new master. We have a young enthusiastic squad with players willing to learn. This process began under Houllier briefly, when Marc Albrighton`s confidence was flying and more of the academy guys started coming through. I believe AVB could work with this and harness the potential of the younger lads, setting the foundations for an exciting new team. I also believe that, should we get AVB, it would show that the board matches the ambition of the fans as opposed to if we got the ex-Norwich/Wigan manager. However, after this season`s failings and the fact that most people seem to be favouring the appointment of a manager from a smaller club it could be a sign that expectations are finally becoming more realistic around B6, something which I am equally in favour of.

Personally, I`d like to see Villas-Boas as Villa`s Boss, but I`m sure whoever comes in will be welcomed with open arms and be expected to deliver a top 4 finish in his first season. Otherwise, the protests, web pages and newspaper messages may rise from the ashes again......




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Date:Wednesday May 16 2012

Time: 10:43AM

Your Comments

I have a huge woody for AVB. He's linked in the Metro today: "Metro understands that the list includes two current Premier League managers, thought to be Wigan's Roberto Martinez and Norwich's Paul Lambert, and two currently out of work bosses - one of which is believed to be former Chelsea coach Andre Villas-Boas."
plastic villain
Just embrace Big Mick he's on the way.
spurdon
Based on what he has done this is not as un-realistic as it first seems.
lerneravfc
AVB would be a wonderfull appoitment in the long term if we could afford him. Regardless of who the new manager is e.g. a Lambert, Martinez etc he will need to be given time and that could stretch to a couple of seasons, main thing here is I believe the Villa fans will be patient with a manager who plays decent football. Not many of us would truly expect a top 6 finish next season without huge investment which we know is not going to happen. But with a long term plan in place to progress playing good football IMO many would be happy with that.
Merlin128777
GUYS I've had a brainwave!!!! We get a jobshare agreement - MON until the end of Feb, then we hire Martinez for March onwards! We'd win the league :D
thorpyuk
how about Dalgleish if he gets the sack????
nottinghamvillain
If getting a new manager was like buying a car, then why not just go for the best you could afford, particularly if it made you feel good about yourself every day. The car would have no say in the matter. Unfortunately, we're not looking for an inanimate object (we've had one of them); the next manager has to want to come to us, and there are big name managers out there who have lower risk/higher reward options than us. I think AVB is one of them. By all means ask him, but it shouldn't be a reflection of our ambition when we don't get him.
Freelancelot
AVB exciting option, but is he the BEST option? No, in my opinion..Not now, at this point...Funds will be limited and AVB is more used to signing £20-25m players which is probably our WHOLE budget. We need someone with experst knowledge ofthe lower leagues (Lambert) or the cheaper European market (Martinez)..Also we need a LONG term strategy. Would AVB want that? If he did a good job for one or two seasons some top European Club come knocking offering Champions League? Certainly not against the appointment, but not sure our best option..Paul Lambert for me
krfeskivilla
AV fits but he'd have to drop the B part of his name. Apart from that, yes!
The Fear
Not sure how I feel about avb. He stunk it up at cfc with a top squad. Don't think he'd go much better with us.
Zarch
The players there simply thought they were better than him and threw their toys out when they were dropped (lampard, drogba etc). Think he got a raw deal at chelsea but we forget what he did for Porto let alone Academica where he was before Porto. Could be a good shout!
nottinghamvillain
As long as he gets home in time to do his home work. We wouldn't want his grades to slip would we. Seriously? AVB? The players would never respect him with his report card already stained at this level. I think its probably goinng to be Benitez though I'd prefer Lambert.
Villa_Grizzly
We don't have the money to keep AVB happy in the transfer market. The players he would want to sign would have wage demands beyond us. If Lerner has learned nothing else in the last 2 years, he has learned that wages cripple the balance sheet. OTOH if AVB was happy with whatever financial restrictions were placed on his transfer dealings then I'd be more than happy to have him at the club.
BOF
the press must be praying for it. 'Andre Villa's Boss' lol
mikethfc
He's my choice. He failed at Chelsea because he tried to change too much, too quickly. Thankfully, this is exactly what we need! We need to get rid of people, and this man has a point to prove in the premier league. As a free agent too, we can afford to offer a bit more, as we don't have to pay anyone millions to release him.
Lee282
I seem to remember some of our seniors throwing their toys out with Houllier Nottingham, would they do the same with AVB? It'll improbable but I'd certainly welcome him.
Pride of Lions
lol Thorpy brilliant mate. Cant see Benitaz Grizzly total cheque book manager and IMO hardly a young vibrant manager as for AVB at Chelsea bit like Hodgson at Liverpool just a poor fit at the time.
Merlin128777
I Said yesterday onthe threads my misses brother travels all over europe spain pirtugal etc he said to me he read somewhere Villa's Boas said when asked about the current Villa manager's job and possibilty of becoming the new manager he said ''it would be intreaging'' now if this is true as it was only from foreign media it sounds promising to me, My only concern with AVB is could he manage Villa without say £50million to spend etc but i have to admit it would be exciting to have him here and what a statement of intent that would show from Randy, but don't think there is no way he would come to a Club like Villa we are bigger than we realsise POTENTIALLY!
clivethevillan
If he wants to manage in the Premier League i cant see any other option than Villa...Apart from the top 8, we have the most potential, out league position is a blip due to poor management...Like Spurs were years ago, we will be back up the table, AVB could be that man.
P.Avfc
Fits the bill very nicely and would be a great statement of our ambitions to re-invigorate the club as Faulkner has stated, however I would tend to agree with a number of posts on here. Could we afford him budget/transfers wise and would he be able to identify the players on a lower level who could strengthen us without playing excessive transfer fees. One name that's not been mentioned though - Bob Bradley, isn't he still available - not that I'd want him but is he a curveball that no one's picked up one????
CannockVilla
I personally would be over the moon with AVB for, we'll the reasons are pretty well laid out above. Great shout. I must admit that I did swear out loud when I heard the McCarthy rumors but this would make much more sense. I wait with extreme anticipation.
magicmerson
Im all for AVB - young dynamic and i think he can get younger players motivated, i also think he would know some good young ones coming through in portugal- their fees tend not to be extortionate and as i said the other day he might know a few good young ones at chelsea too. I think it was the chelsea old guard that got him thrown out. I am sure he could mould a good young vibrant team at villa park, it would take a while but the prospects i think could be good. He left Chelsea with a big pay off- so would money be an all important factor?, why dont we remunerate him on performance fees as well as salary? could be an option, but overall i would be happy with him.
jj184
To those saying AVB is a cheque book manager, check out his record before Chelski, he never splashed the cash and was highly successful. I wouldn't worry about player power either. At Chelski the senior pro's are the owners mates its a bit different at VP and if he wanted to get rid he could. GH struggled because he didn't take over until during the season and so couldn't move people on, I garauntee the trouble makers would have been gone in the summer if he'd stayed
AVbornandbred
I think everyone's over exaggerating the money thing, I don't think he needs money to succeed, he's just had money available in the past that's all, nobody can say for sure that it's the key to his success. At Academica he came in a couple of months into the season after the summer transfer window had closed and they hadn't won a single game, he completely turned them around. He didn't spend any money whilst he was there. He did spend about £20million at Porto, but then they did sell the likes Bruno Alves and Raul Meireles which alone made them over £30million, and they had to be replaced (which he did for much smaller amounts of what they were sold for). Plus, every season we're saying "the manager won't have any money to spend", it's been said for as long as I can remember. Yet Houllier and Mcleish spent about £45million between them in only 2 seasons! That's not much different to Porto's budget. I'm not saying we could offer that kind of money again at this current time, but if we could of i'm sure AVB would of been very tempted. Regardless I feel it's definitely worth at least trying for him!
callum_ws
AVB has got something in common with Lambert and Martinez: he managed a team against a very poor Villa side this season, and was beaten! Whoever it is though, we need to carry on with this new sense of unity and try and all get behind them from the start, or they won't have a chance.
onlyteaminthemids
i agree with all you said Turkish Penguin and alot of what the other people have said too. i can see alot of change coming the summer at Villa park!!! ive also heard that Heskey might be coming back as Player-manager Yaaay!!!
Gaz Random Hero
AVB for me all the way - proven winner at the very top level, excellent at developing young sides, so certainly fits the bill regarding resources at Villa with additions during the summer and the selling on of the"old guard" he could do a great job for us.........and no compensation which could be spent on new signings!.........GREAT to be getting excited about the Villa again! :-)
griffgriff
but can we afford him and the type of player he has become accustomed to? Mainly young, mainly british squad suits a young britsh manager, no? Don't get me wrong, Id be pleased if we got him, just seems unlikely unless he's determined to stay in the prem
revolutionatlast
AVB would be great but he will be going to Roma me thinks!
AdzVilla11
He is still being paid by Roman surely?? If he takes on another job, these monies will cease and you can bet than Chelsea were paying an awful lot more than us. Mourinho had some gardening leave after leaving them too. He's used to the jetsetting lifestyle of a manager of the biggest and best club in Portugal and then London with all their billions. Just think that the brown and grey streets af Birmingham will be too far removed.
Villan444
AVB i the BEST choice by a million MILES!! he won't even cost us any compensation fees!!! why does everyone think he is a big money manager??? cmon he will need villa to build back up to that kind of a sqd again. check his record out also - perfect for me
villa4life87
Yeah I'd LOVE Villas -Boas, certainly think he would invigorate us, and he's got a charisma about him I just think he's class and a perfect fit, you just don't know what either him or the board are thinking! I'd be happy with Lambert if that's the board's first choice, but I'd be a bit dissapointed if they don't even try and get him!
Dumble
Villan444 im not sure he would like the glitz and glamour, if his dress sense is anything to go by such as the ron saunders/graham taylor black mac he kept wearing during the winter- surely thats more akin to clothing from man at C&A or Nelson House. if he wants glitz ive got an old sand pit and could rustle up a paddling pool full of water to dump at bodymoor if he wants a nice beach to be near. A great night out at akbars, yo sushi or the champagne bar in selfridges is all his for the taking- how much glamour can you get in the second city, i mean in a few years he will even have the fastest train in the country shooting past his office at bodymoor, surely thats got to tempt him as well ? Sign him up :-))
jj184
I highly rate AVB and his time at Chelsea was a perfect example of an inexperienced manager not knowing what he's getting into. He really couldn't have predicted the senior players reacting as they did and if you take them out of the equation the rest of the squad was doing rather well. I think he would be fantastic at Villa because he clearly knows how to motivate players and produces great football but sadly I think there is little to no chance of AVB making it to Villa. The man has already tasted alot of silverware at Porto and will be looking for a club that can bring him more. More likely candidates for his signature would be clubs like Roma, Inter, or perhaps even Barca. I think most clubs understand what the problems were at Chelsea and his reputation still precedes him.
clbick3
the money that we would pay out in compensation if we took somebody else's manager would cover the cost difference between Mcleish's and Villas-Boas's wages for a couple of years!
callum_ws
Mmm Dalgleish moving out of anfield could change our perspective now- ;-((
jj184
unless capello goes to anfield or the FSW returns
jj184
Spurton. Might be worth visiting your own site you muppet. Jog on sunshine.
voiceoftheholte
Really wanted Dalgliesh to stay at Anfield at least another year, til the damage was really done. AVB or RM to scousecum, would guess.
onlyteaminthemids
Well said mate but i think Martinez would work wonders with our youngster look at Victor Moses even Maloney same as Brendan Rodgers whose methodical like Pep was at Barca he also has a proven record of developing youngsters and has an eye for talent Vorm and Sigurdsson. I cannot argue with Villas Boas he even has our name in his or is it the other way round. Plays great football and has exceptional youth coaching skills. I think he would be great at Villa but he would need a decent enough kitty. Mind you Porto do not spend alot they buy them young so the can develop them and sell them on to make profit while while winning trophies in the process.
Shane Villains
Well im gutted same as onlyteaminthemids says know Liverpool are lookinf for a new manager we will lose out if Randy was planning someone like AVB if Liverpool want him aswell pfff, Lambert it is then ;)
clivethevillan
Guys I think we are the perfect fit for AVB, no way Liverpool would go for him! Lambert or AVB for me, let Martinez go to Liverpool. AVB wouldnt need a high salary due to his Chelsea pay off, he needs to go back to go forwards so we are perfect for that. His problem was an ageing squad, we are the opposite and have kids that need coaching not egos to be massaged!! Would we care if he came and sold Dunne, ollins and Warnock? Cant think we have too much to worry about and would also be a massive sign of intent
Chelt Villan
If AVB comes then brilliant coup for Randy but agree that he may not be interested. Do we have funds for AVB to spend is the big question.
holte ender 1969
Rodgers or Martinez ASAP Randy!!!! Don't think Rodgers will want to let Swansea down and leave but Randy and co need to go all out and make it impossible for him to say no. Rodgers is off to learn with the Spanish team for 4 days, he is at the front of new age tactics, I am hardly sleeping at the moment.... So excited
AdzVilla11
Think we can afford any manager - after all we get £mills from the premier league tv deal. It just impacts on what we could pay other employees. It is a balance - that none of us can work out cos we don't know the figures. So AVB, Pep etc are all affordable - but at what cost. Not our decision but the debate is what are you willing to sacrifice - maybe 1 decent player - maybe 2??? £20k = 1million per year - so our 2mill manager fee could well easilly be 4 mill if we sacrificed a £40k player.
RiF
The really bad news is that according to some press reports AVB was sounded out by Liverpool 2 weeks ago but their board are as yet undecided. I do stress press reports in otherwords believe them if you like.
Merlin128777
 

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