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Gordonsleftboot says: 'Be Careful What You Wish For'

So Villa supporters are beginning to think that maybe within days their Number One hate target will be gone. In many ways it may be a relief if this is the case as a major distraction will be removed.

But is it for the best longer term?

OK I can hear my usual critics getting ready to slag me off again and I will concede that Alex McLeish can be too negative on occasions. But consider:

1. He was appointed to accept the departures that had already been made and to cut the wage bill still further.

2. These departures followed even more high profile losses over recent seasons some of which had never been replaced.

3. AM arrived after a season of turmoil and had to steady the ship and bring through many young players some of whom are already being written off by some 'knowledgeable' fans on this and other sites as not good enough.

4. He has been hit with an appalling injury list and the loss of his skipper and midfield rock through illness (get well soon Stan!) Other clubs lose one or two players and say they cannot cope!

5. He gets no support from senior management and is left to take all the flak for their policies, decisions and wasted spending.

6. He was not to blame for working for the Blues. OK many now say that this is not the issue - but it was for many at the start.

7. The Blues are into the play-offs thanks to many of the new players he signed before he left and younger players he brought through. (No lists because I don't waste my time following them too closely, but I believe he signed 4 or 5 players before departing.) They have done little worse than any of the other relegated sides and have played many more games.

Before you cheer at his departure just ask: how many other managers would have got this debt - crippled club much further THIS season?

How many would have done worse?

Martinez is favourite to take over. What has he built in THREE+ seasons that is much better?

I am NOT an apologist for AM. He will find himself another high paid job should he leave - and good luck to him. I do have an awful feeling, though, that the next manager will face many of the same issues AND good candidates will look at the club and wonder if the fans are manageable?

Be careful what you wish for. This squad of players is not good enough to achieve what many of you think is our right. We have no right to a high PL position. The Directors have learnt one very big lesson this season - I hope, you cannot cut budgets and hope and expect support. AM may be the best we can get and maybe deserves more support than he is getting.


Andy Gray seems to agree in the Mercury:

Date:Sunday April 29 2012
Time: 12:34PM


Sorry, but his record at other clubs show that the problems you mention are not massive factors in his record at Villa. He's been hopeless wherever he's been.
29/04/2012 12:44:00
95% of fans are your critics mate. The article is nothing more than pathetic Eckscuses and completely pointless!!! There is no reasoning here as to why we have such negative tactics. Do you not understand?? What you've written is mostly correct but it doesn't explain the dire tactics, formations and "snatch a goal whilst defending for your life " approach. Be careful what you're prepared to accept.
29/04/2012 13:00:00
I accept he has a tough job to do with no real money and having to get rid of players. But a team with the likes of Given, Cuellar, Dunne, Collins, Petrov (for most of the season), Ireland, N'Zogbia, Albrighton, Bent and Agbonlahor should never have been anywhere near relegation. We should have secured enough points in the first half of the season when we had a full strength squad to make sure we were never in danger of relegation. I didn't expect much this season but I still thought we would finish above relegation comfortably.
Lion Heart
29/04/2012 13:01:00
sorry but his track record with a fully fit squad is dire...holds no water, he needs to go...
29/04/2012 13:01:00
mr mcleish has no saving graces whatsoever. He is awful and needs to go. Gordon brown would have us higher in the league than him.
29/04/2012 13:07:00
Andy Gray is best buddies with Eck and openly admits this. Eck will not work again in the prem. Why am I bothering explaining simple things to someone who seems intelligent so must have an ulterior motive as they surely can't believe what they wrote. Say hello to Eck when you sit down for dinner with him tonight and tell him to leave Birmingham.
29/04/2012 13:07:00
Nah Villan444 whilst i agree Mcleish's tenure as manager of Villa is now unatainable and his negative style is no good for us, i have to agree with Gordon on the major factors which get lost in translation for many, Wage cuts, losing Downing and Young, Injuries no squad depth, some lazy overated overpaid players on our books, I have to say its right the Villa manager job was never an easy one this season and if Randy as i read a lot lately is planning more wage cuts and wants players here on no more than 40k week whoever takes over in the summer will look at all this and what has gone on and must think ''Oh Boy''. Spuds are reportedly in for Martinez according to BBC Teletext sunday Gossip page if Harry or when Harry leaves Spuds for England, Lambert Rodgers Martinez if we can get one of these these i think we couldbuild a long term project with our youth and take our time re-building this time for the next 3/4 years rather than what we did under MoN and go Gung-Ho for the top 4, But i hear ya Gordon and see where ya coming from with your points you have made!
29/04/2012 13:08:00
Still don't what know the trimming of the wage bill and the fact we lost a few players had to do with McLeish. Was he the only manager in the world of football that would accept that position? I just don't see how the 2 go together. The fact that they went from Martinez to McLeish shows how little they understand football and it has almost been disastrous. And as for Martinez, he laid down the Swansea "way", and he has always played great football with Wigan. He would have been perfect, and with the players we have (if fit) we would be a far better team than Wigan ever would be. I really hope we go back for him in the summer. No more clueless appointments.
Stephen Jay Hawkings
29/04/2012 13:25:00
AM is not the best we can get. I'm not arrogant, the Ancelotti talk last summer was ridiculous. But McLeish is NOT the best we can get. Robbie Savage summed it up yesterday - we don't have any tactics. We don't play on the break, we don't build from the back, we don't even play longball. McLeish picks 11 names out of a hat each week and hopes for the best. We've got Ireland, Bannan, Gardner etc but yeah we'll give Warnock a go in midfield. Why not. And dont dare even think about saying "but he scored last week". Right place right time. I could've done that. It doesn't make him a midfielder. For you to suggest McLeish is the best we can get makes me feel sick. I dont give a **** what Andy Gray thinks.
29/04/2012 13:29:00
So surprises from Mcleish's biggest apologist, but while most of us accept that with the necessary restructuring that had to be done, that we were never going to be challenging for the champions league - but we should have done MUCH MUCH better than this with what we have available. If he'd played players in their proper positions, and maybe - just once, accepted responsibility for his mistakes instead of blaming anyone and everyone else, then maybe we wouldn't be in this mess, and the hatred towards him wouldn't be as it is. No - completely out of his depth, and a complete mistake to hire him. Good Riddance when he goes.
29/04/2012 13:42:00
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