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Have We Got It Wrong About Alex McLeish?!?!


PaulMcgrathsGoneAWOL asks 'Have we all got it wrong about McLeish?'

There seems to be a big divide about this man, not from the fans, as finally we all agree that he is the footballing equivalent of asking Edward John Smith to captain your boat to New York. It seems though, no matter how loudly we shout we cannot be heard, or at least the press will hear what they want to hear.

Alex Ferguson obviously thinks he is a capable manager, although why anybody would ask a rival manager for an opinion is a conflict of interest at best, utter lunacy at worst. It'd be like asking Steve Jobs who the best man to run Android is.

This week Stan Collymore spoke about our plight, he said that because of where McLeish came from even if he wins ten games on the trot, Villa fans will be saying yes but where's the eleventh. He also failed to blame McLeish for anything, claiming that whoever had taken charge we would still be in this position.

Today I read that even the perennial sacker 'Deadly' Doug Ellis, thinks that McLeish is doing a fine job , 'It would be foolish for McLeish to go,' he said. 'Despite the fact that most of them [the fans] are upset that he came from Birmingham City, McLeish is a good manager. Is he Doug? Is he really?

So there seems to be a love in when it comes to McLeish, from everybody except the fans of Aston Villa Football Club.

The question is then, have we got it wrong with McLeish? I remember as a child seeing a sign hanging in my favourite sweet shop, it said 'The customer is always right'.

As a business owner now, it is a principle I have always tried to apply as strictly as possible. The reason is, if you have happy customers, you have a good business. Sometimes you have to back down and admit mistakes, if you can do that, most people are happy to keep on giving you their money even in hard times.

You also need a good product.

Clearly as fans we have been ignored for too long. We might have it wrong about McLeish, he may turn out to be the next Clough, Mourinho or Ferguson, he might take Burnley to back to back Champions league finals in his next job, if he does, we will all admit our error and eat our AVFC emblazoned beanie's, but as it stands we are not happy paying our money for the product we are receiving.

We have every right to this opinion too, just the same as we can decide on what colour we paint our house or which car we choose to drive, our club should be run in a way that we approve of. Sacking McLeish now, wouldn't guarantee survival, on the other hand not sacking him now will not mean certain relegation.

What getting rid of him would do, is return the fans to the stadium, return the belief from the Holte, which in turn will effect the players and return the belief to them. If football is a business, then this business needs to take action now, even if it just to keep the customers happy.

PaulMcgrathsGoneAWOL

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Writer: PaulMcgrathsGoneAWOL Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Friday April 27 2012

Time: 11:00AM

Your Comments

Sick to the teeth of hearing the fans blamed for Mcleishes cock ups and poor tactics. Also I might add to all the players who have come out in his support or stated get behind us the latest being Richard Dunne may I humbly suggest you lot do your talking on the pitch instead of in the press then maybe the fans who IMO have never stopped supporting the team might have something to shout about. Its bad enough the position the clubs in without being patronized by footballers who tell the manager to f off on the pitch or hold there hands out to him as if asking what are we going to do .
Merlin128777
Would love it to work for him and for him to prove us wrong with a trophy in the cabinet this time next season but lets face it, he wont! I actually like the bloke strangely and am one who can see that with so many injuries to key players and having to rely on the kids, who lets face it, are not Michael Owen and Wayne Rooney standards kids, will make you weaker and less likely to pick a string of results together. But, I think for the good of everyone, including McLeish and his future in the game, a parting of the ways is the only way to go. It will achieve all you have mentioned above and the atmosphere at the club will improve immediately as it is one less issue the fans are then bringing to the stadium every game. My only fear is what Randy does next in terms of a manager. The last 2 appointments have left a lot to be desired. Gordon Srachan was at the game om Tuesday - I shall say no more!! One thing is for certain however, if RL makes a pigs ear of a 3rd appointment, we will all be on the managers back again this time next year if results dont go well. 3 managers in 3 seasons aint the way to go for me but it could be heading that way if we get it wrong this summer!
whvilla
Everything about him is ***** ! His record speaks for itself. ******** dire. Bless old Doug, should be in a home not in Majorca. Not taking his medication
crosswesleyanchapel
Sack him now, let KMac loose on the players, they seem to listen to him and respond well...
Metalvillan
For starters, I think Sir Alex would tell anyone who asked him that a donkey would be a decent manager if he knew he was guaranteed 6 points off its team. As for Stan Collymore, the man who had only 2 decent seasons in his career, a 7m failure who joined his boyhood club and never delivered, why should anyone listen to anything he says? If he was in that team he'd be running his mouth all day about how AML is bad for the club. And poor old Doug. I think his message is one of disbelief that AML is a poor manager rather than belief that he is a good one. This article is bang on.
mmlozza
I'm fed up of so called 'expert' pundits and journalists claiming he is a very good manager and that we are all blinded by the fact he came from blues. I read somewhere the other day that we have never supported him despite an impressive 7 game undefeated start to the premier league season. In those 7 games we won twice against Blackburn and Wigan, with draws against fulham, wolves, everton and qpr. That is not an impressive start, we should have secured at least 4 wins. But in that time did we call for his head? No we have remained very patient for at least 3/4 of the season and now we have snapped. Why can these people commenting and giving their opinions not just look at the facts - worst home record EVER, worst prem points total, 1 win in 14, 36 goals in 35 games!! I could go on. We were right all along and we are right now.
Lion Heart
quite simply, no. worst manager in villa's history and boy we have had some shockers in charge, big flippin eck wins worst manager by a country mile, the only thing he is winning in fact
Randy bollox
Maybe the "pundits" sticking together is a sign that he is unfortunately going nowhere even when he takes us down.....mind you I have sensed a wind of change amongst the media recently, if the guy wasnt so media friendly and appears well liked by them he would have been torn into by now....this way its easier to blame the "moronic fans" cos we dont matter !!!
fatloser
Some people change their minds very quickly and can't remember what they thought a week ago. No, we have not got him wrong. He's a useless cackhead of a manager who is going to get us relegated. Remember a while ago when I said "the longer he stays here, the worse it's going to get ?" Well ?
ExpatVillaShirt
To answer the question of the thread is simple - NO!
Pride of Lions
Quote - "So there seems to be a love in when it comes to McLeish, from everybody except the fans of Aston Villa" - well I'm a fan of Aston Villa and so are all the other season ticket holders around me in the North Stand T block and we are all backing the manager and were disgusted with the sheep at the Bolton game. So your article is wrong.
PiperUK
 

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