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Defence For The Defensive Manager

Defence For The Defensive Manager

Every comment on every fansite I've been on lately I've seen the same two words, and after nearly a year it's starting to get a bit tedious.

If you want to blame people for our current position, blame Martin O'Neill and Doug Ellis.

Why?

Because Randy Lerner showed faith and trust to give Martin O'Neill £150m (plus whatever for wages) and 5 years (til he left) to build foundations for success at the club, and that was thrown back in his face when he suggested O'Neill be more resourceful.

Why blame Ellis?

Because, thanks to Doug's whimsical attitude, we have bred a bunch of supporters who believe that one or two seasons is long enough to win something. This would usually be the case at other big clubs with managerial and financial stability transfer-wise, but thanks to O'Neill we lost both of those and McLeish is picking up the pieces.

Not his fault. He's still a young, fairly inexperienced Premier League manager and needs time. He's also at an established Premier League club now, not like his previous employers, so give him longer than 5 minutes to try and build something.

Aston Villa FC is about more than one or two bad seasons. David Moyes was touted for the job last summer but he said he wouldn't come to us because our fans are fickle. Moyes, who joined Everton from Preston North End, has been at Everton for 10 years and finished 15th in his first season. He's also finished 17th and 11th, as well as delivering European football 4 times and a top 4 finish once in that time, not to mention the recent FA Cup semi-finals.

The point is, unless an oil tycoon takes over, everyone outside of the top 4/5 is potentially mid-table. Everton are mid-table. Aston Villa are mid-table. This is the reality at present.

McLeish isn't going anywhere and will have his own team next season instead of a bunch of prima donna seniors who graft when they want to. Give him a break. We can't afford Chelsea-style transfer fees or wages for players and managers so see that we've punched above our weight for years and give him longer than one or two seasons to try and rebuild.

Sure things are disappointing right now, but the only way is up.



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Writer:mmlozza
Date:Monday April 16 2012
Time: 9:39AM

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Speechless.........
BigFatRon
16/04/2012 09:46:00
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I take your points, but are telling me with the squad he inherited and a near 20 million transfer budget we should be fighting relegation? Then he can`t even be honest, he lies to the media about his squad and down plays the club so it doesn`t look so bad on him. Its the way he is going about it that i hate.
lerneravfc
16/04/2012 09:49:00
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Agree with all of that except the 'blaming Ellis' for our supporters' attitude. Doug kept us solvent, sold us to the right man, and only ever had the interests of the club at heart. Blaming Ellis is barking totally up the wrong tree.
chrisj2812
16/04/2012 09:54:00
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I'm not blaming Ellis for his actions chrisj2812, I'm blaming him for the attitude he's passed on to many of our supporters. I agree with you when you say he did the right thing in the interests of the club, but the fickle nature has been something of a legacy. Randy Lerner has shown that he has more patience than Doug ever did, it's just a shame MON cared more about spending than building.
mmlozza
16/04/2012 10:01:00
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Give a man time who has proven, that given time andd resources, makes things much worse. You simply couldn't make it up.
voiceoftheholte
16/04/2012 10:02:00
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His career stats also speak for themselves.
lerneravfc
16/04/2012 10:05:00
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I agree with large parts. It has been a horrible season and going to Utd the weekend was sole destroying. I am at a loss of what is the right thing to do. At this moment I say give it another year with Alex but then that might change tomorrow, that how it seems to be with me at the moment. All I know is that, Lerner is a good owner, we are a great club and constant change is no good to anyone. I have renewed will travel away again next year etc and enjoy our days out but hope for a sense of optimism when travelling there rather than the horrible feeling we are getting at the moment.
Dominic22
16/04/2012 10:06:00
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Imagine McLeish was sacked today. Fast forward 10 years and how would we be judging him ? I
MASON_PARKER
16/04/2012 10:06:00
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I blame the red hair brigade for our troubles. Why oh why did we not get Martin Jol? I cant abide this anti football anymore. When will the press wake up, I dont care where McLeish came from, its our style of play and the man management of our kids that worries me. I tweeted GG yesterday to show Scholes and Carrick what the future of Englands midfield looks like, I can only imagine McLeish telling him that he wouldnt get the ball all match cos he is up against a true great. Our psychology is all wrong and our approach to football matches is disgraceful. I love the fickle fans name we have, what else would you get when you have little to no success for 16 years???
Chelt Villan
16/04/2012 10:06:00
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oops...to finish.....'I reckon we would be putting him down as one of the worst managers we've ever had...along With Venglos McNeill etc...oh yes !
MASON_PARKER
16/04/2012 10:07:00
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