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Not A McLeish Or Randy Lover - A Villa Lover

Not A McLeish Or Randy Lover - A Villa Lover

Two seasons, two new managers = two seasons of transition... especially so considering we have a squad/had a squad full of over paid average players...

Randy tried to invest, break the top four with spending but it ultimately failed.

Should he of allowed MON to spend that much?

Looking now probably not, but how many of you were complaining then about spending too much money??

Not one. I know I wasn't.

Either way he trusted the manager to get the job done and backed him in the transfer market and that Judas bastard walked out because he was told to use players he had already signed... players HE signed.. players on a fortune for a fortune who HE deemed good enough to sign.. That or sell to spend but who wanted these awful players on these kinds of wages? No one!!!

Still somehow, people will see me as being a heretic, blaspheming the almighty one.

Randy has to balance the books because of the rules in place and our wage bill (we failed to get CL remember) and we could end up being the next Pompey!

Of course by this time, fair-weather fans would be nowhere to be seen anyway. Villa fans need to understand we are not Madrid, the Mancs or Barca!!!!!!! A lot of Villa fans also need to realise that Eck isn't going anywhere (unless we get relegated perhaps but I really don't think we will).

IF you're a true Villan till you die, support the team (If you go and can afford to go!!!) Cheer them on every game whether you hate McLeish, you hate Heskey, you hate Hutton...

Just get behind the team FFS...

I do not understand why fans turn up and boo? Hutton gets booed before the ball is kicked! The booing is not going to help. Even the players say when the crowd gets behind them it gives them a boost.

I'm not a McLeish Lover. I'm not a Lerner Lover. I'm a Villa Lover and I just want everyone to pull together and create an atmosphere the opposition fears, not our own players

With thanks to John Avfc Thomas from the Vital Villa facebook page: facebook

Accounts explained by an accountant: Click Here
Forum thread on accounts and the need to balance books: Click Here

Spending to date:

FIRST SEASON 2006/2007 :


Kevin Phillips (WBA £700k )
Matthieu Berson (Levante £1m)
Ulises De La Cruz (Reading Free)
Peter Whittingham (Cardiff City £250k)
Eric Djemba Djemba (Quatar Free)
Juan Pablo Angel (New York Red Bulls Free)
Milan Baros Lyon (Swap)
Mark Delaney (Retired)


Stiliyan Petrov (Celtic £6.5m - £7.5m including add ons?)
Didier Agathe (Celtic Free)
Chris Sutton (Celtic Free)
Phil Bardsley (Manchester United Loan)
Gabor Kiraly (Crystal Palace Loan)
John Carew (Lyon Swap)
Ashley Young (Watford £9.65m)
Shaun Maloney (Celtic £1.1m)

SECOND SEASON 2007/2008:


Gary Cahill (Bolton Undisc in region of £4m?)
Liam Ridgewell (Birmingham £2m)
Jlloyd Samuel (Bolton Free)
Lee Hendrie (Sheffield United Free)
Chris Sutton (Retired)
Didier Agathe (released)
Steven Davis (Fulham £4m)
Aaron Hughes (Fulham £1m)
Gavin McCann (Bolton £1m)
Robert Olejnik (Falkirk Free)


Wayne Routledge (Tottenham £1.5m)
Moustapha Salifou (FC Wil Undisc)
Curtis Davies (West Brom Loan)
Zat Knight (Fulham £3.5m)
Scott Carson (Liverpool Loan)
Harry Forrester (Watford £250 000 initial fee rising on appearances)
Eric Lichaj (Unattached Free)
Marlon Harewood (West Ham Undisc region of £3.5m - £4m)
Nigel Reo-Coker (West Ham £8.5m)

THIRD SEASON 2008/2009


Luke Moore (West Brom - £3.5million)
Olof Mellberg (Juventus - free)
Patrick Berger (Sparta Prague - free)
Thomas Sorensen (released)
Shaun Maloney (Celtic, £1million)
Wayne Routledge (undisclosed)


Curtis Davies (WBA undisclosed but around £7.5million + add ons so total around £10m?)
Steve Sidwell (Chelsea £5.5million)
Brad Friedel (Blackburn, undisclosed but in the region of £2 - £2.5million)
Brad Guzan (Chivas US, undisclosed, starts at around £800k up to £2m on appearances etc?)
Nicky Shorey (Reading, around £4m?)
Luke Young (Middlesbrough, around £5m?)
Carlos Cuellar (Rangers £7.8million)
James Milner (Newcastle, around £12million?)
Arsenio Halfhuid from Excelsior (undisclosed)
Emile Heskey from Wigan Athletic (£3.5m)



Gareth Barry (Manchester City, £12million)
Stuart Taylor (Manchester City, free)
Zat Knight (Bolton £4 - £4.5million)
Martin Laursen (retired)
Craig Gardner (Blues in January, £3.5million)


Stewart Downing (Middlesbrough around £10m + add ons)
Fabian Delph (Leeds United - undisclosed fee - around £6m including add ons?)
Habib Beye (Newcastle, undisclosed but around £3m?)
Andy Marshall (free agent)
Stephen Warnock (Blackburn Rovers - around £6m + add ons up to £8m ish?)
James Collins (West Ham United - around £5m)
Richard Dunne (Manchester City - around £6m)

*Loan fees not included. Figures rounded up or down. Only a rough guideline!*

FIFTH SEASON 2010/2011


Andy Marshall (released)
Stephen O'Halloran (Coventry City - Free)
Wilfred Bouma (free)
Nicky Shorey (to the Baggies for around £1.5m)



Kevin MacDonald takes over as caretaker manager:

Kevin MacDonald transfers (sort of... although already in progress really)


Stephen Ireland (£12m value - in £26-30m package for Milner)
Andy Marshall (free - returns having been released in the summer, one year deal)


James Milner (Ireland + £16-18million)


Gerard Houllier Era :


Robert Pires (free)
Kyle Walker (loan from Spurs)
Omar Cummings (trial)
Jean II Makoun (from Lyon for around £5-7m depending on which report you read)
Darren Bent (from Sunderland for £18m rising to around £24m if paper talk is true)
Michael Bradley (loan until end of season, no rumoured fee)


Steve Sidwell (to Fulham loan till contract end undisclosed but around £250k)
John Carew (to Stoke loan till contract end undisclosed by likely zero)
Curtis Davies (to Birmingham City undisclosed but rumours £1.75 to £3.5m)


After Gerard Houllier`s departure:

John Carew (released)
Nigel Reo-Coker (released)
Brad Friedel (to Spurs free)
Robert Pires (released)
Isaiah Osbourne (released)
Moustapha Salifou (released)


Alex McLeish Era


Shay Given (from Manchester City around £3.5million)
Charles N`Zogbia (from Wigan for around £9.5million)
Alan Hutton (from Spurs, undisclosed, around £4million?)
Enda Stevens (from Shamrock Rovers, £250k)
Jermaine Jenas (from Spurs on a season long loan)


Ashley Young (Manchester United around £16m?) ... to be fair, this was a done deal before McLeish arrived.)
Stewart Downing (Liverpool around £20million)
Luke Young (to QPR, undisclosed)
Jonathan Hogg (to Watford, undisclosed)

January 2012:


Robbie Keane (Loan from MLS doo dah)


Shane Lowry (undisclosed - to Millwall)
Elliot Parish to Cardiff City (undisclosed)

Click here to join in the debate on the club forum.

Writer:John Avfc Thomas
Date:Monday March 5 2012
Time: 1:07PM


i totally agree with you, about time it was said. we were left with a pile of s*it when ONeil left, some good signings and some terrible ones, the Supporters who support Aston Villa must back the manager at least until Christmas to see if we can change. it doesnt matter what Mcleish says someone will find a fault and twist it just to have a go, lets get to end of the season and see
05/03/2012 13:22:00
I love Villa, and that why I will be staying away this week and my ST seat will be empty. I cant bear to see something I love in such a bad way. Its like seeing a loved one on their deathbed.
05/03/2012 13:31:00
We all want a great atmosphere again, but you can't really blame the fans for going quiet lately and being frustrated easily, can you? We now have a manager nobody wanted, who we all predicted would bring what he has to the club and not one Villa fan can be pleased with the season, we're a disgrace. I go to back the team myself, but the Holte End won't be roaring whilst all of this crap is going on, will it? The 'family club' Aston Villa is no more, the board have put a massive gap between themselves and the fans, we don't really feel like we're important anymore. Villa don't care about us, just our money. Why would a fan base who have been treated this poorly and ignored this much want to come to Villa Park and get Villa Park rocking when we can't even get out of our own half? For the atmosphere to come back, we need something from the club first I think. 1) A new manager. 2) Communication from Randy Lerner. 3) Better direction from the board. 4) Some decent football (not world class football, just something we can be proud of and enjoy watching). Being an Aston Villa fan isn't a job, it should be entertaining, when it is, we sing. When it's like this, why should we make double the effort when the club itself couldn't give a **** about us? I'll be there next Saturday and I'll join in with any singing, but I won't be losing my voice from it. In a time when Villa Park is mistaken for a library, I'll be surprised if we have more shots than chants next weekend.
05/03/2012 13:34:00
I just want to see the team try to win a game every game. I will not cheer them on until they do this.
05/03/2012 14:56:00
Not the players fault. Tactics are so poor. So John Thomas, MON left because he was told to play the players that he signed??? Didn't realise that you were there listening to this conversation. Randy's never here so who told him AND why wasn't he allowed to play Milner?? he was one of them wasn't he?? What if Milner stayed, MON stayed and we got £50 mil from Champs league and more players wanted to join and we sold more shirts and got more TV money??? All ifs, yes but possible. "MON was told to play all the players"?? have a word....
05/03/2012 14:57:00
Villan444 At the end of the 2009-2010 season Shorey, Davies, Reo-Coker, Beye, Sidwell, Harewood and Luke Young were the 7 players he was not using. O’Neill bought them for nearly £40M and was paying them a combined £12M a year. He was not playing them nor was he selling them. When he walked out in August only Harewood had gone, and that was because his contract had ended. Villa getting £50M from the Champions League? Did you ever watch O’Neill’s style of play or Villa in Europe after Barry left? They don’t give you £50M for getting hammered in the qualifying round, they put you in the UEFA Cup against the might Vienna.
Dudley Villan
05/03/2012 17:54:00
Glad to see the realists are starting to come forward and recognise the poison MON left behind. The "entitled" internet ranters don't do Villa any good and are no better than the bored tossers who jump on someone else's bandwagon just to have a scream and a laugh.
05/03/2012 18:34:00
I do agree about not booing players before the game has even started. It's like when the Holte End erupted into chants of "We Want Ellis Out" because somebody gave a free kick away. How was the old man supposed to have prevented that? Run onto the pitch and get a clean tackle in? The same could be said about the people with the McLeish Out banner when we were winning. If somebody has a bad game, it is fair to criticise, but you have to give them a chance first.
Mark from Dudley
05/03/2012 18:42:00
My only complaint about MON was he never signed a golascorer or creative midfielder...
05/03/2012 22:32:00
Dudley has made a more than fair point here, look at poor amount of players we are left with? we have to admit MoN did waste a shed load of money that we have been feeling the effects of for the past 18 months, and for Mcgrath knows how long, i was hurt when he walked out and spat his dummy but im more hurt now realising what damage financialy MoN has left us in plus i do blame Randy for allowing MoN to spend what he liked, he should have stepped in before the damage was as bad as it is know!
05/03/2012 23:03:00
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