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Blame Aimed At The Aston Villa Board?

Strong words from astvil123

FINALLY The Blame Is Aimed At The Aston Villa Board!

I'm hearing people say Randy Lerner needs to admit he made a mistake and sack Alex McLeish. Some are calling for Randy to go, but most are now realising Randy Lerner has no idea how to appoint a football manager successfully.

Alex McLeish has become the latest failure.

Look at the facts, in recent months McLeish has managed some of the most woeful performances (if you can call them performances) from any Aston Villa team in recent memory. However, he refuses to accept the blame. He diverts the blame to others every week.

He's targeted Albrighton (v Everton), Dunne (v Arsenal), Warnock (v QPR), Collins (v Man City), Gabby (v Arsenal), N'Zogbia and Ireland (v Newcastle) etc. He's blamed injuries, the mind set of certain players, he's blamed the oh so famous 'silly errors', bad luck and just when you think he's ran out of excuses, he thinks of a new one for the shambles of a display at Wigan, the pitch!

I thought after today he would finally own up, take responsibility and say he got it wrong. He could have realised his mistake of playing Emile Heskey wide right, or 9 men always behind the ball, or Gabby wide left or even his mad loyalty towards picking Hutton, Collins and Warnock, but no, he blames the pitch.

How much longer will this go on?

We're 15th!

Doug sacked O'Leary after finishing 16th!

I'm a season ticket holder, I didn't get a phone call from the club with the survey they've done (because I haven't gave them my new number, ssshhh!) but I have heard what questions they are asking current season ticket holders. Well let me give my answer now.

NO! I won't be renewing my season ticket or spending any money at all towards Aston Villa until McLeish has gone and Randy gives this club better direction with new board members who actually know what they're doing. e.g. Ian Taylor said this season on The Goalzone he would LOVE to be a Villa board member.

Look at his mistakes. He gave Martin O'Neill free reign (a very expensive mistake).

Houllier? Awful choice. McLeish? He makes Houllier look a masterstroke!

Randy Lerner, Paul Faulkner and anybody else currently a part of our board are now finally exposed to the majority for what they really are, businessmen who are clueless in the world of football. They want success, but have no idea how to achieve it. I'm not saying Lerner should sell, but I think he needs to appoint new board members who understand the game and have a history with Villa. We need better direction; we need a new manager, new players and new ambitions!

At this moment in time, whether we will be relegated or not, we deserve relegation. The club is an absolute joke right now! We gave McLeish a chance and he has failed, as expected. He will never succeed here; Aston Villa is too big for him. However, he won't be sacked, Randy Lerner's main aims for this season are to reduce the wage bill and ensure our Premier League survival. He will keep McLeish here for as long as he needs to divert the attention away from him whilst he fixes the financial mess he created under O'Neill and Houllier. If we are to get McLeish sacked then we need to turn our attention to those who brought him here, the board. Until they come under fire, McLeish will remain. We need better direction from the board, McLeish is only 'a' problem; Randy, Paul and the rest are 'the' problem, and have been for quite some time.

Change is needed. Your move, Randy ...

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Writer: astvil123 Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Sunday February 26 2012

Time: 10:02AM

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astvil123, you are right, until the board get the heat turned on them they will not listen or give two shats what fans are saying and moaning about, i disagree when you say we deserve relegation, the club itslef Villa and the great fans who follow us faithfully home and away do not deserve relegation nor did they ask for this mess our clueless owner and board memebers have caused.
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26/02/2012 10:22:00

95% of fans saw this coming, ok a few more were prepared to give McLeish a chance, no more! The botton line is we have been patronised by our board and treated with disdain, I mean what do we know? Do we really think we know better that an American business man who happened to go to college for a couple of years close by and liked the name? Silly us!!
Stourbridge Villan
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26/02/2012 10:49:00

the club does deserve relegation, WE as FANS do not deserve it though. The owner is not fit to run this once great club, we need to do something to make him realise we wont stand for this rubbish
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26/02/2012 10:50:00

Lerner is a clueless blundering fool. He won't make himself accountable for anything, and anonymous to us all. He knows nothing of the game and I am tired of his mistakes, I want him and the rest of his muppets gone!!!! Burn the stars and stripes cause this party is over!!!!
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26/02/2012 10:56:00

Yeah we are 15th. But we are only two wins from 8th and have a GD of only -5, much better than the teams around us. Houllier was an awful choice - I thought finishing 9th was pretty good considering the summer we had. I would like the board to be a bit more reassuring or vocal but at the end of the day I'm sick to the back teeth of fans like you astvil123. All you have done for months is moan. We have the most negative fans in the country. Ever heard of positive thinking? This is my last post on this forum. I'm fed up with all this negativity and moaning. I'm behind Big Eck because I can see the bigger picture. We are not fecking Barcelona! Our players are not good enough - simples. MON could motivate average players into good ones because thats his main strength. Eck's strength is tactics, a solid back line, and yes defence is a part of football - all you lot think football is about attacking players. What was Liverpool's reign and 80s built on? Defence. Defending and stopping the other team from playing is part of the game you fools. How the hell could we stop Man City from hammering us? By stopping them from playing. The players we have are NOT GOOD ENOUGH to win against the top 7. They are MON's average joe's. He could make them good because of his management style, as mentioned before. Albrighton, not good enough. Gabby, not good enough. Warnock, Collins, Bannan, Delph. Heskey NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR TOP SEVEN. Let Eck rebuild, let him create a defense that is tighter than your mommas ass. Give him time and he'll bring us a cup. Just give him a break. I've had enough of you morons. You probably don't even go down the Villa. I'm off. PiperUK A long term season ticket holder in the North Stand - someone who actually goes to games, watches the team and sees the bigger picture.
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26/02/2012 11:07:00

Good on you for showing passion and commitment to Villa Piper, it's great your loyal but I don't agree at all sorry. I do agree that Randy should stand up and also like the point astvil123 made about the board and Ian Taylor, it's clear the board want to do well but have no clue about football, they need help. I just wish they weren't so silent and go get the help. If they had some people football people in there advising McLeish would never have been even thought of and we all wouldn't be squabbling right now. I still want Eck out though and always will, don't rate him and never will.
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26/02/2012 11:35:00

A well-written piece and spot on i.m.o. However, whether Ian Taylor would be enough to redress the balance on the board is a moot point. Perhaps Graham Taylor is needed as well - in fact as many Taylors as are needed to mend things!! Jokes aside, the imbalance on the Villa board is frightening and does need addressing.
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26/02/2012 11:42:00

Unless you are very, very rich with Billions of pounds available to be thrown into an ailing football club, and unless you are prepared to do just that....then there is no point in sounding off about Lerner. Without that mega wealthy owner we can never compete with the Manchesters and Londoners. It would be no use buying two or three top quality players for 40M each, even if they would join Villa, because they would simply be picked off within a year by the 'big four/five/six'. So quit complaining about the owner or the board because that is not the way forward. Villa will simply have to produce all their own players like Gabby and not buy any more. The fans will have to stop slagging off home produced players as 'not good enough' because these players are the only ones we can afford. Get used to it and support them. The manager is a totally different thing though. He should go as soon as possible because he is clueless and has the record to prove it.
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26/02/2012 11:48:00

I feel sorry if you feel that way Piper. I applaud your faith in Eck but you really need to stop for a second and think. The manager has lied countless times to us, is playing incredibly negative football, is constantly blaming players and is not getting results. Are those acceptable traits for a manager? You claim that Eck's strengths are a tactics and defense. What examples of this are there? He has not succeeded at any club with his "Defense Defense Defense" policies. Eck has a history of being a failure as a manager. What makes this different. We are 15th. Failure. He promised attacking football numerous times. Failure. He promised Gabby would not be played on the wing. Fail. We have scored 0 goals from set pieces and conceded numerous goals from set plays. FAIL. You have clearly listened to his rhetoric of blaming the individual players. I do agree we have some very average players. But we do have better players than the teams around us.
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26/02/2012 11:50:00

I think every appreciates what randy has done... he is a good business man but as said he isnt a football man... Ian Taylor on the board of directors wouldmake sense somebody with football knowledge needs to be involved in club affairs at the top... in some ways houllier was a poor choice but after the liverpool debacle he started to get things right and he wanted rid of pretty much everyone nobody else wants on that team... theres no denying that
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26/02/2012 12:17:00

I feel sorry for PiperUK aswell. He clearly isn't all there. How can you call everyone who wants Eck out a moron??? 95% including Ian Taylor. You won't see the wood for the trees. LOL @ "let Eck rebuild". He built teams that couldn't compete in a 2 horse race in Scotland (where even Neil Lennon is going to get a winners medal) and his self built team at bloose got relegated. Every team gets injuries before you try to defend him. Stop making Eckscuses. He is indefensible and you're making yourself look gullible, foolish, naive and childish. You too Randy
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26/02/2012 12:20:00

What's wrong with blaming players? Are they not men? Are they not man enough to be told they are *****? Albrighton deserved the stick when it was given. What should the manager do, stick his cock up their arses instead? In any job your manager has the right to you when you're not doing your job properly. ***** the overpaid muppets. Hold on...Eck has not succeeded? No he only won a cup with an very average team. Does the Carling Cup not mean anything to you? There are only 3 trophies to be won in English football, and he won one. Why couldnt he do it for Villa? When he does I'll be on here gloating like ***** at all you sheep.
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26/02/2012 12:22:00

All of you like little sheep, with your pathetic little Facebook pages and *****y little tweets, like a load of women all getting worked up. Fans like you are a disgrace to our club. One fan has a moan on his gay Facebook page and everyone else follows. 'Eck off, Eckcuses' etc etc. Go away and support the Albion then, leave me and the TRUE Villa fans to support our manager, our owner and our great club.
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26/02/2012 12:27:00

Piper, carrying on a bit now mate! Your in a small minority and while I think it's great your loyal, I also think your completely deluded. How anyone can sit there and watch us at the moment and think to themselves "Yeah we did well" Eck is total rubbish, yes some players are but they'd be doing a LOT better under a half decent manager. Think what you want but don't go calling us sheep and stuff like that. It's a ridiculous argument, we are rubbish and the players heads are down at our lackluster BORING NEGATIVE STYLE.
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26/02/2012 12:31:00

We're out of all the cups.
Adam Deuce
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26/02/2012 12:37:00

hahahaha well said Adam!
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26/02/2012 12:38:00

No ***** Sherlock.
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26/02/2012 12:51:00

Have you ever seen Piper and Eck in the same room at the same time? Just saying......
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26/02/2012 12:56:00

PiperUK, we are not in the 80's anymore, football across the globe has changed. How many teams have actually played defensively and succeeded to the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester City, Manchester United, AC Milan, Juventus, Napoli, Bayern Munich. Tell me how many you complete and utter idiot. Because 99% of the time, you can try and play defensive football, but it would only be to keep your GD as high as possible. Maybe years ago you could say 'give it a try and go for a 1-0 win' but now it's either attack and win or defend all game and lose. Eck can't attack and I think we all can pretty much see he can't defend either. And don't give me any rubbish to do with 'let him build his team' crap because at the end of the day, he has to try and work with these players anyway but not one single player has done the job under him, not even HIS players who if I may say have been the worst of them all which shows we are only going downhill. The only reason Keane worked was because he had confidence and most likely got that confidence knowing he isn't staying here perminantly. So Mr PiperUK, you, Eck and the board can all bugger off.
Avfc94 we do
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26/02/2012 13:36:00

Piper stinks of Royal Blue. Can't hold your tongue for a sensible debate, petulant child.
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26/02/2012 13:42:00

***** off and support Albion then you *****s. Good riddance 'fans'
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26/02/2012 13:58:00

What idiotic comments piper. Ask any neutral if they want to watch Villa at the moment. We are ultra negative and us good fans don't deserve it. you aren't the best supporter because you will cheer any old rubbish on!! People have the right to their own views but 2+2 always = 4. You can't completey bull5h1t like Eck and say we're playing well and were unlucky when we clearly are not.
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26/02/2012 14:22:00

Good article from Martin keown in the Mercury today. Some could do with reading it. I agree with what he says. Villa are not competing off the pitch with crowd size, ticket prices, levels of supprt etc. and yet the manager is expected to compete with the results of the off pitch Villa on it. How many here have been calling for the kids to play? Well they played testerday and abuse dished out by some of the Villa faithful in their direction yesterday was a disgrace. Without support how will they take the club forward. Lerner a fool, Lerner and the board out? Pathetic thoughts from people who have not considered the consequences of such an action. Everyone makes mistakes and so does Randy. But replace him? You're having a laugh. As I said the other day, be careful what you wish for. A fan on the board? Heaven help us, the club would go in one direction one day and another the next. I agree with a lot that Piper says which will not surprise some. Supprt the club for heavens sake and if you can't, that stop moaning. This club will never be anything without support.
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26/02/2012 14:25:00

Save your breath, Lerner will continue in the same vein as with the Cleveland Browns. He is Mr Mediocrity.
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26/02/2012 14:34:00

Gordon, you and piper should get a room. You can sit there and think up some more excuses. Pathetic. People say play the kids yes. But not all at the same time and all in 1 area of the pitch. The tactics is the problem whoever plays anyway you mugs who will believe anything. And ***** off about your poxy article in the mercury. Look at any article on the Internet. Eck is the problem and randy is to blame for appointing a yes man rather than a decent manager.
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26/02/2012 14:44:00

to all those blaming the board for our current woes, you are absolutely right. Randy and the board are to blame, they are to blame for listening to the lies and deceptions of the man that they were assured by everyone was one of the best managers in football, for believing in a plan / dream, of taking a gamble and of trying to do everything that the "fans" were calling for by backing the manager to the hilt. They are also guilty of listening to those fans who wanted a different style of football when they brought in a manger with a proven track record and one of the most respected men in world football. They are equally to blame for appointing Mcleish in a move that I think is woefully misguided (he is the worst manager I've ever witnessed) having decided finally to ignore the fans opinions, to face the reality of a busted dream and try to try to change the business model. I don't believe that Mcleish was the board's first choice no matter what the press office release, neither do I believe that there was or is a long list of candidates for the job. Should the board composition be changed - absolutley and I suggested it a while ago in an article, should the owner go - not in my opinion as he has done a great deal of good and has finally decided to run the club as a business, should the manager go - absolutely but my question would be who could come in and do a job within the framework of the current financial rebalancing that is realistically available ?
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26/02/2012 14:45:00

Piper must be trolling because if he's serious he's a footballing dummy... stop a team from playing have you ever heard such nonsense... tactics? mcleish? that was a good one too... i tried to look at the big picture... i actually liked houllier...i can understand why some didn like him but i didn at one point in time but he would have been fantastic if lerner let him continue he was getting rid of the dead wood... similarly i tried to like mcleish i went to the first of the season and we werent bad however in hindsight it was against blackburn.. he had my support until the spurs debacle... that team is average but its not 15th average and certainly not relegation scrapping team... i truely hope mcleish comes good because i cant see him leaving any time soon... in summary you need to appreciate that alex is an average manager who would rather draw with the bottom club in the league than take a minor risk and set out to attack them... at houllier tried to play the game in the right manner and had the balls to drop underperforming seniors for young players who want to play for the club.,..
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26/02/2012 15:10:00

also what idiot sends a champions league standard player out on loan and brings in an injury prone player who is a shadow of the player he once was...
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26/02/2012 15:11:00

I wanna smoke what Piper's on.......pass it around chap
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26/02/2012 15:15:00

Pipe down piper! Your the sort who keeps repeating how he is a loyal season ticket holder who supports Villa through thick and thin, probably got a tattoo which you flash about to try and make your point. You think you are a better fan than everyone else because you tolerate embarrassing, dull, painful football...*********, a lot of people like myself pay a lot of money to watch this *****e week in week out and get nothing in return, you can keep going on how the fans are embarrassing but all we do is say the truth and don't keep trying to prove how good a fan we are, who cares really? It's not a competition...You work for money, your money goes into the club so you can slag and boo all you want, the manager is a joke, you can easily set a team out with a solid defense but at least give it a go and show that you WANT to win games, and not trying to scrape draws against bottom of the league. The fact is, Eck is not good enough, we have a perfectly capable side who can easily achieve a top 10 finish and not send the fans to sleep...he is the problem, and people like you who support him. Mcleish Out!!
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26/02/2012 15:15:00

Heated stuff, gentlemen. I agree with some of Piper's comments. Since I fell in love with Big Ron's boys over 20 years ago its been undeniable that we are the most mardy and intolerant fans going. However this time its a fair cop imo. If it was just "sorry, we're broke and need to blood and then rely on our youth for a few years" we'd have been bummed but gone with it. We'd have expected a drop in the league, expected to lose to teams we'd grown accustomed to beating. We'd have been patient and tolerant. But this, this is a case of hearing about McLeish, praying it wouldn't happen, not being able to stop it and it then being forced to watch it like Alex in Clockwork Orange. Its not that he's from Brum, that reallly is pathetic. Its the brand of football. Everything else I can take. You can't win games if you don't score. And when you play that soul-sappingly defensive, how can you have hope that we will even begin winning football matches. That is the problem - theres no sparkle to suggest it's going to improve round the corner. He's stupid actually because if he attacked and went for teams he could blame our inexperience when it goes wrong.
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26/02/2012 15:21:00

And Piper like someone said this is modern day football, not the 80s, i don't know how old you are but times have moved on mate. If you keep 10 men behind the ball against anyone you will invite them to constantly attack and put pressure on you, if the defense is too deep there is no way to keep the ball and you will keep giving it away time and time again inviting more pressure leading to conceding goals and not scoring any...Keeping the ball with a high defense puts pressure on them, then you are able to score goals aswell as keeping 5 or 6 behind the ball incase the team springs a counter attack. It's not hard at all, with the ball you get the team forward, without the ball you keep your shape but not lie so deep so you cannot get the ball out your half. Also with negative play which is all what Mcleish is about, it brings a negative mentality...if we were to go 1-0 down, it's difficult to get out that mind set meaning you are chasing the game with little hope. That is what's wrong with Mcleish, he will not change his style of play and that is why we are suffering...explain this piper, why are Norwhich, Albion, Swansea, Fulham all doing better than us? Because they don't sit back and let teams hammer then, they can defend and be tight at the back while also attacking teams and putting them under pressure, and we have a better squad than any of them?
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26/02/2012 15:25:00

Have the men in white coats come and collected Piper yet??
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26/02/2012 15:50:00

It took guts from Randy to appoint McCleish is going to take more guts to admit that he was wrong and sack him. Come on Randy man up and do the right thing before its too late
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26/02/2012 16:00:00

PiperUK on youtube, turns out he's a bit of a trainspotter lol
Stourbridge Villan
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26/02/2012 16:43:00

Is Piperuk smoking a sheish Piper or something? What a load of tosh, is Piper really Eck in disguise LOL. Anyway Telford you are wrong,if we had a multi billionaire or a new owner investing in players rather than selling why would these so called 40 million players leave? our players have got picked off under Randy and Ellis over the years as they all realised the club was not building towards the top thats why they pee off in the first place and join richer clubs but if we were a richer club they would not leave simples!
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26/02/2012 18:29:00

With that sort of defeatest attitue Piper, you're not needed. You might see the bigger picture, but what channel are you watching? goodbye old chap! AM OUT!!!
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26/02/2012 18:59:00

I thought you'd left Piper? As good to your word as McLoser is then I see???
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26/02/2012 19:00:00

I agree with Gordon that we should be careful what we wish for. Randy has done a lot of good for this club and has good intentions at heart. However he was naive the way he allowed MON a free reign and allow our finances to get out of control and we are now paying the price in having to cut back. I agree that this board do not appear to be football men and think it would be wise to appoint 2 who know about this club and it's fans (Ian Taylor for example) and maybe another 2 who know about football. Because whoever advises the board atm knows nothing about this club or how football should be played. I'm not unrealistic in my expectations like some fans, all I ask is that we give 100% to try and WIN every game. I'm afraid we are stuck with mcleish for the rest of this season and I will continue to support the boys. However I have had enough of wasted money on dire football so will not be renewing my season ticket next year if eck is still in charge. That is the only kind of protest that will make Lerner get rid of him.
Lion Heart
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26/02/2012 20:07:00

Hey Piper if you're only gonna write crap like that, then its a good job you're leaving, you could'nt do us all a favour & take Mcleish & Lerner with you PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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26/02/2012 20:09:00

I hate this "You are bad fans talk" Any fans from any club would act like this if there manager and team were serving up such pathetic rubbish. I don't blame the Blackburn fans and certainly don't blame us, when things are clearly not right we HAVE to do something, that's what being a fan is all about, it's our right. You think we are meant to sit there with our cucumber sandwiches smiling and clapping like some sort of machine no matter what is served up?? NEVER. I understand Randy cutting costs and wages etc, I think it's smart in the long term but he chose the WRONG man to guide us through this period. Just because your cutting costs it doesn't mean you play 10 men behind the ball, Heskey on one wing, Gabby on the other and leave our two best mids (Ireland and NZogbia) on the bench. All the while breading a negative defensive mentality which helps no body. We are Villa and when our boys cross that white line we should and the players should believe they can beat anybody, that's what football is all about. The manager gets a -10 for motivation, -10 for tactics and while we are at it a -10 for the backline (and most of the backline is the backline that was so strong a few years back) He's a bad bad manager and is total rubbish and always will be. There's much better managers in the lower leagues that would at least come in with some direction and positivity. I want Randy to stay but I also want him to WAKE UP!! What a mistake you have made Randy.
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26/02/2012 21:48:00

whilst I would not speak to fellow villans in the same way as piper his reaction was due considering the manner in which his opinion was received.. Sometimes this forum is worse than PM question. I would have to agree that with the current squad we are not a top 8 club, barely top half. Piper is also right in suggesting that MON was the best at motivating average players to get results. What also worries me is in comparison to the the previous managers he's not doing that badly (not far off same points total after 25/6 games. Simply put, sometimes its hard to see the wood through the trees.. im a football man, play regularly, at a decent standard im not 'stupid' or 'stuck in the 80's' but Eck has a limited squad, even more so depleted than when Houllier or MON were i charge. I think it will be a struggle this season and admit its hard to watch at times but we will stay up and I will judge Eck in time.
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27/02/2012 00:36:00

And as for 'crazy' substitutions, starting eleven selection my how quickly we forget, MON was the master of terrible subs/playing people out of position. I'd be interested in knowing from all fans who state they would rather have Houllier back whether they were also calling for his head? Our Squad is not the same as it was.. in fact I wouldnt even consider our best player 'supposedly' bent 'world class'; says it all really.
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27/02/2012 00:42:00

Just re-read some of the first posts...'the club deserves to be relegated' oh dear....
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27/02/2012 01:19:00

At last! Supporters are beginning to smell the roses! Can't really add to whats been said. All I can say is - OK, lets do it.... lets turn the heat up on the board. Or is it the wrong time of the season?, the wrong day of the week?, wrong time of the day???? Some will still have their excuses for not protesting..... bit like Idiot blaming everyone else for his woes and lack of ability!!!
Pride of Lions
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27/02/2012 05:19:00

i'm not on here to bitch at others to begin with, we all have a right to vent our point, rightly or wrongly. Some of the comments are awful tbh and not what I would think we are about as grown men, let alone supporters. Its a rough tough time for us villans and I for one know the man picking the team has lost the trust of the majority. For me he should never have been approached! The board do need to admit they got it wrong and fi him now. Trouble is who would come to us right now that most of us would accept? I hate the constant change that some clubs go through and we at b6 have had few lately. I understand we can't stick with McLueless as he is holding back the team from playing and expressing themselves by poor lineups, subs and positioning. We aren't set up to beat anyone anymore ffs! Now I'm passionate but I refuse to slag off others for their point so please show some respect guys and welcome debate, don't shoot down other who just do not follow your point. When all is said and done I cannot see RL leaving and I don't think he should, he just needs better footballing advisors around him. I've never met Faulkner but I just don't like the chap and not sure why? The season is over for us and its just a matter of position now. Some will want us to go down to say "I told you so"! Some, like me will want us to win every game but cannot see the current boss doing anywhere near that, so welcome change. A small few will back Eck for whatever come rain or shine, sadly. I have said that I will with hold judgement until season end and then take stock with what may/may not come out of the board room. UTV.
holte ender 1969
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27/02/2012 06:30:00

holte ender 1969
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27/02/2012 06:32:00

Look at Saturday another 2 points dropped, fortunetly those under us fared no better. Bent out now, we could be in serious trouble, that being said back to back wins in our next two and we can relax. We have a very average squad, we are no longer a "big" club and by the looks of things we will not be for quite a while. COTVABU
irish villa
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27/02/2012 07:39:00

read in paper about lerner selling up.but heard this time last year he was looking for a middle eastern buyer
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27/02/2012 08:24:00

Not sure I want AVFC to be the next billionaires toy if anywhere near true, but as a fickle fan (poking fun at myself) I would welcome the success or possibility of it. Mind you we could have God, Jesus, Mary and Josph as owners andwith Eck in charge we'd still lose :p
holte ender 1969
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27/02/2012 08:29:00

sa*****, mention this rumout to Fear, he loves it!
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27/02/2012 09:42:00

I can't understand anyone backing Eck given our dire form this season; and I've lost confidence in Randy Lerner and the board, as have a lot of others. There are other factors too - in the past couple of years we've lost Milner, Young and Downing and nobody of their quality has really stepped up; Bent sometimes for sure, now he's injured, what now ? One thing's obvious - Eck is not the man to motivate what we have left. Surely our results and our performances say it all. He doesn't know what he's doing. UTV VTID
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27/02/2012 11:31:00

I would rather go down trying to play good football than stay up playing the drivel we are playing. Ironically I think we would do much better if we tried to attack and relegation would not be an issue! However to be sucked in to a relegation fight and playing utter tripe is a bit much for any of us to put up with. I went to our 1st match of the season and decided after that not to go again as I could see it was going to be a waste of time let alone money. It seems to have got worse, the only positive is that the likes of Gardner are getting games but I think this is more out of necessity than choice and I very much get the impression the shackles are on!!
Chelt Villan
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27/02/2012 11:57:00

Aren't internet arguments great... I'm not sure why there are so many comments about Randy to go. And replace with whom? I haven't got 60 odd million - do you? Randy to wise up and get rid of Eck - possibly at the end of the season if we stay up - is probably the best we can wish for. I wanted to believe that he had a plan and it was a long term thing but seeing the bookies odds slashed on us getting relegated has got me very concerned. I just believe we enter games with no plan B and quite a lot of the time no plan A either... Worrying times. We need a couple of wins to settle the nerves. Oh and please stop playing heskey - are you trying to tell me we have no better players on the bench that can replace him? WTF.
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27/02/2012 12:25:00

Piper your a tit! how can anybody defend ECK and then say Albrighton deserves the stick he is given? thats great support there, shout abuse at a young player who is raped of confidence already by McClueless, what a fantastic suporter you are I bow down to your total stupidity! ECK is an idiot ha ha to say his STRENGHT isn tatics? I doubt you have ever seen tatics in your life mate, your the sheep that follows a man who gives every excuse in the book to take the blame from himself, you seriously need your head checked no seriously im worried about you...nobody could be naturally that stupid!
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27/02/2012 12:48:00

Kerry, maybe he should have gone to specsavers?
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27/02/2012 14:54:00

Kerry, piper has his opinion and is welcome to it. He didn't appoint the clown in charge and isn't picking the team so having a dig at another villa really isn't fair. Tell me to mind my own but I come on here at the end of the day (actually its the start cos i'm in nz) to discuss, reason and debate. We will not all agree that's for sure.
holte ender 1969
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