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Strange how the same thing seems to happen every week isn`t it?

Talking of repetitive scenarios last week saw the creation of yet another 'fans movement`. Sharing the previous week`s 'McLeish Out` theme, it offered very little other than a Twitter account and the desire not to have Alex McLeish as manager of Aston Villa anymore.

To begin with it did offer a little bit of hope. The name 'Villa Fans United` suggested that it could be a group which could attempt to bring supporters together, for the good of the club, for the good of the fans. Therefore it was a shame that when the aims of the 'group` (it turns out that it`s actually just one person) were made clear, it was to get McLeish removed from the club. And that`s it. It goes on further to suggests it`s methods will include contacting sponsors of the club and attempt to reduce revenue into the club. There`s not much unity there is there?

However, whether it turns out to just be another angry Twitter account or not it`s certainly symbolic of the way the atmosphere around the football club is at the moment. Fans are disappointed and angry. They feel let down that the club didn`t listen in the summer when it was made extremely clear that McLeish wasn`t wanted, and they are angry that the things being predicted when he was appointed are coming true.

This atmosphere is not one in which a club can grow, can progress, or even remain healthy.

For once, we can ignore team performance and quality for a moment. We all know that the team is struggling in the league, that the football is poor and the attacking nature of our performances are, in the main, very disappointing.

The thing that is compounding the performances and losses is the quite ridiculous spin that comes from the club. Yes, we know the club has to at least give the impression of an upbeat, positive one but the official line from the club is getting more and more ridiculous.

Best case to point was the rather silly idea of sending a letter out in the name of Alex McLeish to season ticket holders. Who thought that was a good idea? We don`t want comments - we want results - and while we are putting in sleepy, losing performances in games it really doesn`t matter what 'the manager` (or whoever actually wrote it) has to say.

The letter finally recognized that the vast majority of fans disappointed in McLeish`s appointment has other issues to worry about that what team he`d come from previously. Such as previous achievements and the type of football that is played. And yet, despite the results, despite the performances - we have 'McLeish` telling us that the idea that he plays boring, defensive football is in fact a myth.

Alex, my old mucker. We`re not stupid. We saw the tactics, gameplay and team put out against Tottenham. We witnessed the Swansea away game. We saw the Manchester United, Liverpool and Stoke games. They were dull, boring and defensive. And yet we have you telling us that it`s a myth. We even have pundits such as John Barnes saying you can`t play this kind of football at Aston Villa, and Kevin Keegan calling it the worst home performance in the Premier League that he`s ever seen. It`s happening. It`s real. But the official line from the club is that it isn`t, that it`s a myth.

Which is the kind of thing that made 'Comical Ali` a figure of fun all over the world and asks the question was it actually written by Officer Barbrady from South Park - the bumbling policeman who prefers to deny any going on with the phrase 'Nothing to see here`.

We`re adults - we can see these things happening with our own eyes. To pretend that it isn`t happening merely - is as insulting and frustrating as any bad performance (and we`ve had many to choose from!).

The superlatives reached a new level last week, when Paul Falkner told us all on the official website that Alex was off to America this week. This trip, we`re told, proves that Alex is working hard on getting the best out of the squad. Who really thought that making this top headline news and trying to make out that this was a great idea that no other manager would have done?

Whether it turns out to be beneficial to Aston Villa (and I suspect that it`ll be the latter seeing as the trip was to watch how a team in a different sport and currently one of the worst American Football teams around approach the game) or not - the fans of this football club are frustrated. We find it hard to like the people in charge of the team. The players are playing poor football and they are not winning games. What we don`t need to be told is that the manager, rather than working with the players in an effort to improve their form, fitness and skill, is off to America for a few days.

The club had extra time between games because the club is no longer involved in the FA Cup after a loss despite being 2-0 up at half time. I`d have much more respect for the manager if instead of him flying off to America and giving the team days off that those days were used to practise both defending and attacking corners. Seeing as we`ve conceded more goals than anyone else from corners, and haven`t scored a single goal when attacking one - I, and I`d be willing to wager most fans would have been much happier to read that they are working on this. That, I think, would be a much better way to utilize time and have a much more positive effect on the team.

Let us make our own minds up on what to think about things. Drop the awful alliteration from every piece - because at the moment it comes across that not only is the football rubbish and results poor - but the club is trying to pull the wool over our eyes too.

And that`s just as frustrating. And potentially more damaging. It`s pretty hard to get a large group of people`s trust back after losing it. And if you do lose it then it makes any kind of success even harder to achieve.

Just ask the previous owner about that.

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Writer: CustardCream Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday February 21 2012

Time: 2:24PM

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Can't get my head around a group calling themselves United to be honest.
The Fear
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21/02/2012 14:28:00

What an excellent article. Well said that man!
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21/02/2012 14:45:00

We are doomed. Far too many people are happy to sit back and watch McLeish, Faulkner and Lerner ruin our club and watch us slide furthur down the table.
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21/02/2012 14:46:00

If the basis of this article is criticising the trip; then all I would say is Big 'Eck didn't go on his own and it's well known a simple fact that when it comes to sports science/fitness conditioning/medical treatment the US is years and years ahead of us - I wish it wasn't so, but it is.

As for the rest, as an interested third party, I too wish big 'eck spent more of his time concentrating on getting the basic right and getting Villa back to having the self-believe that they can play football the way it's supposed to be.
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21/02/2012 14:50:00

Well said mate. Randy stick your PR machine up your arse.
Green Villan
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21/02/2012 15:40:00

Perhaps if the lads worked a little harder for each other on the pitch things wouldn't be so dire, instead of hiding behind fans discontent that Jose Mourinho didn't sign and instead we got some ugly bloke from BCFC.
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21/02/2012 15:44:00

Fantastic article, and took the words ourt of my mouth. This useless excuse for a manager has to go NOW.
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21/02/2012 15:47:00

Well said Mr. Cream. This is a very good, factual and accurate article unlike another recent one from someone else which had so many praising it just because the sentiments were that Villa are still the best and it'll be alrightish. Glad that there's still lots of us that can see the light through the cloud that this dire footballing style and PR that wouldn't fool a 5 year old is putting over our club (even though I'm not entirely sure there is any light with these clowns in charge.)
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21/02/2012 17:37:00

I too worry about the modern way of fans at Villa we just seem to sit back and wait for Randy to finally get decisions right on the footballing side of things, Randy and Faulkner have done an admirable job with the income increased from 37 million to 90 million which is amazing to be fair, but us fans sitting back and hoping we start playing betootball or climbing the table soon is a gamble as if we lose our next 2 games we are in big trouble and in the relegation mix big time, i am happy to show support to Villa but this board have let us down too many times wether picking Mcleash or allowing MoN to sign players on big wage contracts which was unsustainable for Villa which is why we are reducing wages and struggling now! We need changes made at vila, either an experianced CEO and investment in the summer under someone like Martin LionHeart Laursen or Lambert as manager, then we can start to rebuild this poor defence and look forward to a brighter future if they do none of these things then i think we need a new owner who can make good decisions which will lift the gloom over Villa right now!
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21/02/2012 18:08:00

Excellent article Custard. Got it all spot on., I totally agree with you too. We have too many apathetic supporters who might spout on here and other blogs, but when it comes to actually doing something, they haven't got the testicles!
Pride of Lions
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21/02/2012 18:46:00

Pride i have the testicles m8, i can prove it! ;)
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21/02/2012 19:10:00

Bring back houllier..!
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21/02/2012 21:15:00

The thing that sickens me is, that with much better managers available, they had to poach a failure from that lot down the road. I fear that by the end of the season us and them will be changing leagues. Their manager, who was available when we got the the wrong man, has worked wonders, whereas Eck has managed to create a losing team. There must be something fundamentally flawed in Randy's thinking. He is the owner of two teams, either side of the Atlantic, that are renown for the poor quality of their play. That is the big worry. Randy has no record of success in either game. He seems to be the Champion of Failure!!
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22/02/2012 09:12:00

It gets worse Obediah when you think we actually payed small heath compensation for him ! I reckon they should have compensated us for taking him and getting them the manager I wanted at the time. A good article custard the one question I asked Mat Kendrick was does Villa have an actual PR dept. after seeing the shambles we made of appointing a manager in the summer and some of the guff comming out of Villa park since
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22/02/2012 11:12:00

Agree with the poster who wants Laursen in. Martin Laursen for coach would give the fans something to push for, rather than something to push against. Laursen would be a popular-and good-appointment.
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22/02/2012 14:43:00

Laursen would be almost as unwelcome at VP if his team played as negatively as Eck's does. Can't see that being the case and he'd never ever be as hopeless in press confrontations as the clueless one. Laursen may well be very good but there's no point comparing him to Eck VWRA in the fact that we will like him just because he's an exvillan. Eck is useless and needs to be shown the door because he is Eck ( and all that that entails,) nothing to do with him being an ex-noser.
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22/02/2012 17:40:00

Good article that voices what a lot of fans think. I used to think Eck seemed like a nice guy but now I can't bare to even look at him without feeling sick. He's a stubborn old defender from Scotland, do you really think he's ever going to play attacking free flowing, good to watch football?! It made me extremely angry when he tried to tell us he loves attacking football more than any and that it's a myth that he's defensive minded. Like you said we are adult, have watched loads of football for years and years. This appointment will never ever ever ever be right and never ever ever ever will go well. Randy has no guts or any idea what he's doing in sport. Yeah he can build nice training grounds but that's where it ends, look at his two teams?? Goodbye Eck, take Randy with you too.
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22/02/2012 20:55:00

Sounds like a good old fashioned soap box rant born of club passion. Not to sure though who this 'we' is you keep referring to. I'm presuming its those who are die hard anti-McLeish. For me nothing is ever that black and white, more murky grey. Seem some things I have definitely not liked and some things that I can understand.
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