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Wigan - The Season's CRUNCH Game

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Our next game against Wigan may well prove to be a pivotal moment for McLeish and Aston Villa this season.

In fact, i believe it's shaping up to be the biggest game of the season for us. Win away, and we should start to climb out of the doldrums and finish in a mediocre position somewhere in mid-table (prob around 9th-13th).

Should the unthinkable happen, and we go and lose it, I think several things will start to kick off. There's been a few games this season where I've taken a look at our league position, and though to myself 'wow, if we lose this one, surely Mcleish is finished' but we've turned it around and won, staving off what many fans see as inevitable anyway - the removal (by management, or by fervent fan protest, either by financial or direct) of Alex Mcleish as Villa manager. (Bolton, Chelsea to a degree, and Wolves being the most notable)

However, should we lose against Wigan, we will be on less points than at the same stage last season, and I can see

1) any remaining pro-McLeish fans turning
2) the players heads dropping further as they realise we're in for a hard relegation battle,
3) the media picking up on our position / plight and labelling us as 'in a relegation battle'

After surrenders such as Man U / Man City at home and Spurs away and dismal showings such as Bolton at home in the Cup, Swansea at home etc etc etc, Mcleish knows that nothing but a win against Wigan is acceptable.

Now is the time for results.

Now is the time to prove that he has the abilities to manage at this level.

We know that virtually all fans do not want him, did not want him before he was appointed, and still do not want him now - myself among them. Opinion is obviously split as to when and how he should go, but our current league standing is doing nothing but condemn him further in the eyes of most fans. The other thing I wondered about is where we realistically should have expected to finish this season given our incoming and outgoing players. I think most right-minded Villains know that we wouldn't expect to necessarily finish top-6 anymore, so I thought about where our squad, on balance, should finish when our current manager is taken out of the equation, and I've come up with 9th - exactly where we finished last season (although you could say we underachieved somewhat last season).

Be interesting to hear your views on where you think we should finish, and what may / may not happen depending on this weekends results!




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Writer: Thorpyuk Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday February 21 2012

Time: 1:47PM

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I'm off to this game with my son, we are hoping for a decent performance and a win....hoping and getting are two different things!
ormskirk
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21/02/2012 14:09:00

After weemans hat trick today, get him in the squad along with LIchaj who sounds like he pleyed a blinder too!!!
nottinghamvillain
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21/02/2012 15:55:00

nice post nottingham, excellent idea but we're talking about Idiot here...... he couldn't pick his nose!
Pride of Lions
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21/02/2012 16:34:00

nice post nottingham, excellent idea but we're talking about Idiot here...... he couldn't pick his nose!
Pride of Lions
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21/02/2012 16:35:00

4 Points from the next two games is a must at least but think this will end up a draw !!
marshyboy87
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21/02/2012 17:01:00

at the start of the season, in fact any season in this premier circus, we have to look at 8th place. . . logically the top 6 are gonna be (in any order) the 2 mancs, liverpool, spurs, chelsea and arsenal. then it should be between us and everton for 7th and 8th followed by the likes of sunderland, stoke, newcastle and fulham. this however is not gonna be anything like the case. what would fans realistically take every season from now onwards? a sign of the times and situation is when wigan is a crunch game. depressing i know and this post might come accross as slightly arrogant but just putting it out there about where we should be looking, where we really are and fishing for thoughts on where people think we should be
deaf dean
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21/02/2012 17:52:00

McLeish was quoted in preseason saying, "Anything below a 9th place finish is a failure." For once I agree with McLeish, but his own words are coming back to haunt him. McLeish Out! This match is a must win and I think we will win, but should we somehow lose it, what should happen then? Randy won't sack him will he? I'm just praying he sacks him before the summer spending starts so he can't waste anymore money. N'Zogbia (9.5M), Hutton (5M) & Jenas (1M in wages) = 15.5M completely wasted on an injury prone midfielder, an attacker who he's chased for a long time (and even now has no idea how to manage Charles properly) and a right back who, erm, isn't a right back, in fact, doesn't even look like a footballer. 15.5M well spent then? I'm praying Randy gets rid after this year before he allows him to buy anymore expensive crap!
astvil123
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21/02/2012 18:55:00

its a sell out by the villa faithfull, lets hope for a good show from the fans 'singing etc..' and it'l go to plan! UTV
Tr1dent
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21/02/2012 20:01:00

with the squad we have we should be competing for 7th with Newcastle and Everton not struggling with the bottom 6 . Top 6 is not possible now Citeh have joined the top4
villan57
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21/02/2012 20:55:00

I blame everyone who wanted rid of Houllier..
CDX_EIRE
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21/02/2012 21:08:00

The next two matches are MUST win games.. Any less than maximum points and I think the rest of the Villa faithful will finally turn on big "Eck".. It will be a long hard battle til the end of the season unless we pick up at least 10 points from our next 4 games.. Let's hope the away crew carry on with their magnificent support to the team these next few weeks...See you all at Wigan folks...
jonnyvilla
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21/02/2012 23:23:00

That's an interesting quote astvil123 - condemned by his own mouth! Having said that, 9th is still very achievable with a decent manager at the helm...
thorpyuk
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22/02/2012 08:56:00

I agree we should finish 9th with the squad we have however I think we will probably finish 13th providing we pick up at least 9 points from the next 4. Can't see us picking up many points after the next 4 so if we don't get 3 wins against teams we would expect to beat I really do fear the worst.
Lion Heart
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22/02/2012 09:24:00

CDX Houllier was not fit enough to run a premier league team better he went than we ended up wearing black armbands for him. And we were no better off under Houllier points wise than we are with the current disaster, plus we had ash young & downing at the time. only towards the end did we improve when Houllier was in hospital. Like many I didnt want and still dont Mcleish as manager but I believe this will eventually lead to a clash between the fans and Randy Lerner I know he can ignore a protest by 500 or so but doubt that he has experianced 15-20 thousand turning on him as has happened in the past. It may come down to the fact many are dodging or avoiding answering are we willing to see Randy Lerner go and if so who replaces him ? this is the probable cost of getting rid of Mcleish anytime soon and as stated I am no fan of Mcleish.
Merlin128777
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22/02/2012 11:31:00

 

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