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Is McLeish's Luck Running Out?

When our 'manager' bemoaned his luck yesterday, most of us could not believe our ears.

His claims that we have lost many points this season through bad luck beggars belief. Indeed, I consider that the early season form included a number of games where we scraped lucky points. He has also been very lucky with injuries.

Yes we have had the odd player injured from time to time, but up until recently no established first team player had been out for a significant number of games. (Jermaine Jenas was hardly established and with his injury record, his loss was predictable).

He has also been lucky that Gabby's injury has coincided with Robbie Keane's loan spell.

However his luck would now appear to be coming to and end. In the last 48 hours we have lost Ciaran Clark, and Richard Dunne, to what appear to be mid to long term injuries.

Having recently released Habib Beye, we are now left with just four experienced defenders, Hutton, Cuellar, Collins and Warnock. None of our other defenders have more than 10 Premiership starts.

Whilst I believe that we have some promising young players capable of filling in at full-back, I am not so sure about the centre-back role. An injury or suspension to either Cuellar or Collins, would leave the squad's lack of depth seriously exposed. Vital games coming up.

Get the worry beads out and start praying. There always seems to be on team that drops into the relegation zone late in the season, as one or more of the bottom clubs pulls off the Houdini act.

It as Birmingham City last season. Will McLeish make it a double?

{I believe we are now in a worst position than Blues were this time last season. ed}


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Date:Monday February 13 2012

Time: 11:15AM

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Same thing happened at Blues no? He lost both his central defenders and then got relegated.
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13/02/2012 11:26:00

The next four games will tell me what will happan, but i am losing any desire i have had for going to see Villa quicker than usain Bolt running to catch a bus ;(
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13/02/2012 11:37:00

Take a leaf out of Wolves book, sack the manager...RL admit your mistake and lets move on.
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13/02/2012 11:38:00

McLeish's record is woeful, he will take us down. website now improved after the many criticisms received last week
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13/02/2012 11:45:00

Damage is done now ........... half the people there yeterday were there to see Man City, just like the Man Utd games etc ..... no passion from the players = no passion for the fans = no passion from the players and so on .......... he needs to leave now
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13/02/2012 12:05:00

Unlucky to lose? Is he mad? The only unlucky thing for us is that we are going to be losing Robbie Keane who seems to be the only player that gives a monkey's right now! I bet he can't wait to get back on that plane to sunny CA.
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13/02/2012 12:17:00

Herd at right back and Baker at left back would be a real improvement on Hutton and Warnock, not a fill-in. But agree any loss of Cuellar in particular would be a disaster. His non selection for much of the season once fit has been a huge miss. Fingers crossed he remains fit, in form, and in the team in the centre of defence from now onwards.
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13/02/2012 12:39:00

Anyone who has witnessed the dross served up and then supports the manager needs to see the men in white coats. Was with the couple of hundred or so that were at the protest and managed to get my 'Get the F'Eck out of Villa' banner displayed as the teams were coming out. The funny thing was most people were in agreement with the sentiment and happy to helped get the banner in place, but some muppet tried giving a bit of verbal but strangely didn't want to come anywhere near for a full and frank conversation. Never saw Piper who threatened to rip down any banner he saw. Maybe Piper didnt go. This same bloke then sat on his backside for the game, gave no vocal support and then left before the end. And he questioned my support??? I simply asked for the manager to leave and then sang (as I always do) in support of the team. I stayed to the end and as always, refused to boo. Make no mistake, we are in a relegation fight although 7 points from the next 9 would actually pretty much sort us out. However if lose to Wigan and Blackburn we are well in the mire. We all know protests are not going to work at the moment, but I am sure that when the season ticket sales are a mere trickle Randy will have no option but to pull the trigger.
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13/02/2012 13:19:00 clearly Yorke has seen the same games as all of us fans, but a different one to McClown.
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13/02/2012 13:22:00

I think Dunne, Collins, Cuellar and Clark are a good balance actually as our four centre backs, if we have more than that Clark would not get a game in his preferred position as centre back. So I have no gripes with that. Looks increasingly like we have the wrong manager in charge though unfortunately.
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13/02/2012 13:27:00

Cant see what your all moaning about I am sure Heskey could fill in at centre half for a few games :)
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13/02/2012 13:36:00

Woke up this morning hoping to see the headline "Villa sack McLeish", my heart fluttered a bit for a millisecond when I saw the yellow ticker tape and the words "sack" and "Mc". So close. And now Dunne out for 8 weeks, interesting to see how much we miss him (or not), considering a lot of people want to see the back of him. Still not worried about relegation though, it's between the bottom 5 for me.
Stephen Jay Hawkings
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13/02/2012 14:04:00

Well spotted thekentvillan........
Pride of Lions
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13/02/2012 14:12:00

pride of lions - pmsl
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13/02/2012 14:21:00

If he's determined to play Heskey throuh thick and thin, perhaps it's time to move him to centre half.
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13/02/2012 14:46:00

Mcleish HAS to go...To come out and say his gameplan was spot on is a disgrace, fans pay money to watch that crap...have you heard any other fan in the premier league praise our performance? No iv'e had people texting me laughing at Villa saying how bad we look. There is no doubt about it, this muppet has to go, bring someone in temporarily if we must, anyone but him and then get a good manager in the summer...Keep Mcleish and nothing will improve, this is the style of football we will see next year, what will change? He has a good team, no excuses...some muppets need to wake up.
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13/02/2012 15:13:00

Luck running out? if he blames luck for where we are then HE NEVER HAD ANY LUCK its been the same crap all season, fans say its too early to sack him but I think the earlier the better, our next 3 games are vital not pun intended so I think he should be sacked and Kevin Mac as caretaker, look how our reserves and even youth team play, did anyone see the youths playing in the Next Gen? that is how to play football so anyone saying we don't have the players capable of playing good football then they must be saying our youths are betting than our 1st team so I say promote them all, anything would be better than the crap we have seen this season...
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13/02/2012 16:12:00

kerry - understand your point, But Kevin Mac?? Do you not remember Newcastle away last year? He doesn't want the job.
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13/02/2012 16:22:00

I'm with Voice - KMac's great at what he does, but he's not a 1st team man, and not the solution. Not sure there is a solution, unless we can change owner/board/manager ASAP.
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13/02/2012 16:29:00

Fact is that our team's too good for even Eck to relegate. We'll pick up some points over the next few games and the apologists will be out in force; we'll finish bottom half but comfortable, people will put their heads in the sand, renew their ST's and rinse and repeat next season and possibly another after that. I said last summer we should go in for Paul Lambert, I said said the summer before we should go in for Paul Lambert, I'll say again this summer that we should go in for Paul Lambert - but then again I'm not a great visionary like Faulkner or RL so what do I know.
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13/02/2012 17:02:00

"Fact is that our team's too good for even Eck to relegate" I really hope you're right SBE, just not sure. Yes, we've got a few really good players, but it's incredible hpow badly this bloke is misuing them. We are well and truly in a relegation battle, and it feels a lot like 1986 again to me.
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13/02/2012 17:31:00

^ There's so many really bad sides this season that we only need another 7 or so points to stay up, I'd be surprised if we don't get that from the next 4 games alone. Not one player from the likes of Wigan, Norwich, BBurn, WBA would get in our 1st XI other than possibly Samba.
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13/02/2012 18:31:00

Sack him and sack him now. Why not go for someone like Grayson? Ok he did not do the best job in the world at Leeds but 1. he would be an improvement on McLeish and 2. every time he got Leeds going he had one of his best players sold on him and was not allowed to replace them.
Tallaght Villan
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13/02/2012 19:25:00

SchoolBoyError what about Dann and Hoilett?
Tallaght Villan
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13/02/2012 19:27:00

I have been in give the guy a chance camp, and the positive that the young lads are coming through.Yesterday was embarrassing and he clearly has no intent to try and play football.Even last year with greener kids against man u we gave them a game and were unlucky.The rubbish that is being served up, and some of the bluenoses in my family are laughing as they endured it for so long. He does not understand what we expect,after 12 years as a season ticket holder I am not wasting my time paying to watch that dross next year.We could have messi,xavi and iniesta and he would not know what to with them. Sad days at VP.
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13/02/2012 20:59:00

Randy where are you?????!!!!! Does he even know what's going on or doesn't he care anymore?? I'm losing respect for the man I used to call King Randy every minute that goes past, no man in their right mind could let this continue. I felt sick when Eck was appointed and it's just getting worse and worse. Please end this nightmare. ECK NO ONE WANTS YOU, BE THE BIG MAN YOU SAY YOU ARE AND PACK YOUR BAGS AND LEAVE FOR THE GREATER GOOD.
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13/02/2012 21:27:00

Guys I have said many times on this page, we can all ask for McLeish to be sacked, simple fact that is not going to happen. We are stuck with him, unless we are relegated and even tehn I am not sure Lerner would getv rid of him. One thing is for sure if we do not get 6 points from our next two games then we will be in a relegation battle. COTVABU
irish villa
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14/02/2012 07:40:00

I think the mcleish appointment made us all feel slightly sick to the stomach, but when you strip away the fact he came from blues, and the fact he has poor history at blues & rangers, and only focus on this season, what are we left with? 1) Shocking tactics 2) Horrendous negativity 3) Disgraceful man management 4) An appaling level of apathy from fans over the whole club resulting in poor attendances and season ticket sales. This man needs to go NOW. WALK MCLEISH, nobody wants you here!
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14/02/2012 09:55:00

Here's a question for you.. Steve Bruce is being linked with the Wolves job. Would you rather have him at Villa or McCleish?? I can honestly say I would rather have Bruce in charge. That is how bad it has got !!!!
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14/02/2012 12:14:00

oh well if all goes to plan we will get Mick McCarthy LOL
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15/02/2012 08:03:00


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