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Shay Given 'Protests Won't Help Team' + Fans Split

Shay Given 'Protests Won't Help Team' + Fans Split

Shay Given has told fans they shouldn`t protest and that it is the players fault the position we find ourselves in.

Never sure players should get involved with fans v manager stuff but on the other hand, quite a brave thing to do I guess. Wonder what he has made of his time at Villa thus far? He has praised the Villa faithful but lets be honest, the atmosphere at home this season hasn`t been to our usual decent standards has it?

He said on that the protests won`t help the club or players.

He adds, and some of you might disagree with this line... "People have to realise that Alex McLeish is a great manager and is passionate about doing well for Villa. It`s always easy to blame the manager but players have to stand up and be counted, look themselves in the mirror and put in good performances."

He says it is possible some of the players are feeling the pressure. Not sure our back three are, not sure they care in the slightest, be so happy when they are shipped out, hopefully this summer. In fact, they have to be shipped out in the summer don`t they? They are just corrosive to all that is good at Villa.

"Maybe some of them are feeling the pressure when playing at home but you`ve got step up, it`s a big club. You`ve got to take that pressure on your shoulders and want to play for the club and show the fans that you`re good enough to play in that shirt."

He also adds, "It`s too easy to blame the manager, he doesn`t cross the white line and as players we have to take responsibility." Which if it was any other manager I think it would get a fairer hearing to be fair. But it has become impossible to have a realistic debate about McLeish because it all gets shout down and most made up their mind before he came and those who didn`t haven`t been enamoured with the performances.

Is it right to protest?

Well, that is down to the individual. For me, I think the timing is way way off, especially as this will be our most difficult home game this season. If we were to lose the four after this game, fair enough, we would then be in freefall. At the moment he is doing no worse than the other previous managers, just the style hasn`t been good, but then, it wasn`t under Houllier and the style of play under the man who walked out on us five days before the start of the season was hardly inspring either was it? It is just he did get the results, if you consider all that money he spent as success for bringing us 666... we all know what that number is!

I`m sorry, I appear to have gone off on a heavy metal tangent!

Personally, I`d rather support the team (NOT saying that protestors won`t when the protest is over btw) and wait until we are safe before other issues are looked at.

Our forum thread is a real mix. Remembering we had votes with 96-97% saying they`d like McLeish gone, but not everyone who wants him gone want to protest. You can never predict us fans really can you?!

Read more: Click Here

Our polls are interesting really, 96% said they would like McLeish gone.

Are You Attending The Protest?
Poll Date: 08 Feb 2012
Suggested By: d8ost

No 73%
I would but can't get to game 13%
Yes 12%
Unsure 2%

And when we asked if fans should be protesting we got:

Should fans be protesting?
Poll Date: 07 Feb 2012
Suggested By: JP Fear

Yes, at all times 48%
No 41%
Yes, before games only 8%
Unsure 3%

Personally, unless they get a few thousand there, I think the protest will be seen by the press and sky who will (as they are there anyway) no doubt film it, as a failure. Will it show us in a bad light? Time will tell.

Unhappy times, can`t believe protests are back, thought these days were behind us for a while. I hope fans who disagree show them some respect, we used to face all sorts of 'stuff` back during the Ellis protests.

End of the day, no matter what your opinion, we are fellow Villa fans, we all care. Be safe, be kind, and if you see me, give me a fiver... the latter is really the important part!!!!!!!!!!!

As said, our forum thread makes for quite interesting reading, even some of the most anti McLeish appear also to be anti the protests: Read more: Click Here

Writer:J P Fear
Date:Friday February 10 2012
Time: 1:46PM


I do love a bit of Iron Maiden!
The Fear
10/02/2012 14:05:00
Does Shay mention names of the players that are letting the club down, or what this "great manager" is doing to correct it? Thought not. Just more bluster I'm afraid. These players, praising the "great" manager at the moment, will be slagging him off as soon as he's gone.
Class of 82
10/02/2012 14:11:00
Always liked Shay, never came across as a liar to me 82 (because that's what you are calling him) but everyone's allowed an opinion. He's just stating what a lot of us believe, and what we have seen with our own eyes, individual mistakes have cost us dearly, fan pressure will not make our boys play any better, but support might help, think about it.
10/02/2012 14:24:00
Yes, all very interesting chaps, but what about Maiden?!
Think it is obvious who are letting us down this season to be honest. The summer no doubt will see them gone.
The Fear
10/02/2012 14:33:00
LOL Fear, i thought to myself when i read about the part give you a fiver, i would buy you a beer then realised its literally a fiver for a beer at VP LOL, Shay is just trying to show fans the manager has his support be intersting to see who else comes out in defence of Eck? Class82 good point lol as soon as Mcleish is gone one day some players will be bitchin about him for sure lol
10/02/2012 14:33:00
Sounds like it's something he said with PF standing behind him and a knife point in the arch of his back!
10/02/2012 14:34:00
Given deserves more respect than it being implied he's a puppet I think Mr Thorpy!

You have to try these things Clive, you never know, some day I might get more than just abuse! LOL
The Fear
10/02/2012 14:35:00
Well if it does fail, at least we can say we tried and did our bit. 97% of fans, dont want him. 56% believe protests should be carried out. We have done our bit now, its over to the rest of you now.
10/02/2012 14:42:00
also if McLeish was a great manager would he have 2 relegations on his CV, a 3rd place finish with Rangers and the longest streak of winless games in there history. Also would we be 13th with 6 wins in 6 months? or have no home wins since 5th Nov?
10/02/2012 14:46:00
Well the fans havent protested for the last three months and we havent won a game at home. So Shay, how will a protest make it any worse? I will be singing my head off as usual in support of every player in a Villa shirt, whilst displaying my Eck Out feelings. UTV. Prepared. McMuppet Out.
10/02/2012 14:55:00
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