Writer: J P Fear
Date:Friday February 10 2012
Shay Given has told fans they shouldn`t protest and that it is the players fault the position we find ourselves in.
Never sure players should get involved with fans v manager stuff but on the other hand, quite a brave thing to do I guess. Wonder what he has made of his time at Villa thus far? He has praised the Villa faithful but lets be honest, the atmosphere at home this season hasn`t been to our usual decent standards has it?
He said on www.expressandstar.com that the protests won`t help the club or players.
He adds, and some of you might disagree with this line... "People have to realise that Alex McLeish is a great manager and is passionate about doing well for Villa. It`s always easy to blame the manager but players have to stand up and be counted, look themselves in the mirror and put in good performances."
He says it is possible some of the players are feeling the pressure. Not sure our back three are, not sure they care in the slightest, be so happy when they are shipped out, hopefully this summer. In fact, they have to be shipped out in the summer don`t they? They are just corrosive to all that is good at Villa.
"Maybe some of them are feeling the pressure when playing at home but you`ve got step up, it`s a big club. You`ve got to take that pressure on your shoulders and want to play for the club and show the fans that you`re good enough to play in that shirt."
He also adds, "It`s too easy to blame the manager, he doesn`t cross the white line and as players we have to take responsibility." Which if it was any other manager I think it would get a fairer hearing to be fair. But it has become impossible to have a realistic debate about McLeish because it all gets shout down and most made up their mind before he came and those who didn`t haven`t been enamoured with the performances.
Is it right to protest?
Well, that is down to the individual. For me, I think the timing is way way off, especially as this will be our most difficult home game this season. If we were to lose the four after this game, fair enough, we would then be in freefall. At the moment he is doing no worse than the other previous managers, just the style hasn`t been good, but then, it wasn`t under Houllier and the style of play under the man who walked out on us five days before the start of the season was hardly inspring either was it? It is just he did get the results, if you consider all that money he spent as success for bringing us 666... we all know what that number is!
I`m sorry, I appear to have gone off on a heavy metal tangent!
Personally, I`d rather support the team (NOT saying that protestors won`t when the protest is over btw) and wait until we are safe before other issues are looked at.
Our forum thread is a real mix. Remembering we had votes with 96-97% saying they`d like McLeish gone, but not everyone who wants him gone want to protest. You can never predict us fans really can you?!
Read more: Click Here
Our polls are interesting really, 96% said they would like McLeish gone.
Are You Attending The Protest?
Poll Date: 08 Feb 2012
Suggested By: d8ost
I would but can't get to game 13%
And when we asked if fans should be protesting we got:
Should fans be protesting?
Poll Date: 07 Feb 2012
Suggested By: JP Fear
Yes, at all times 48%
Yes, before games only 8%
Personally, unless they get a few thousand there, I think the protest will be seen by the press and sky who will (as they are there anyway) no doubt film it, as a failure. Will it show us in a bad light? Time will tell.
Unhappy times, can`t believe protests are back, thought these days were behind us for a while. I hope fans who disagree show them some respect, we used to face all sorts of 'stuff` back during the Ellis protests.
End of the day, no matter what your opinion, we are fellow Villa fans, we all care. Be safe, be kind, and if you see me, give me a fiver... the latter is really the important part!!!!!!!!!!!
As said, our forum thread makes for quite interesting reading, even some of the most anti McLeish appear also to be anti the protests: Read more: Click Here
Date:Friday February 10 2012
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