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'Proud To Be A Villan' Against Protests

'Proud To Be A Villan' Against Protests

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Proud to be a Villan:

I`m sure most of you have seen the reports in the papers today regarding imminent protests this Sunday before the Man City game. Normally I ignore this kind of thing as a few protests have been supposedly organised recently but nothing has come to pass. However in light of the media coverage I felt some sort of response necessary.

Is this really the time for this? Are things really at the point of protest?

At the moment, after 24 games we are sitting in 13th place, which is higher than last season. We are 8 points above the drop zone and not really much sign of us being dragged into a relegation scrap. We are only 5 points behind 8th place in the league.

Much of the ill feeling is directed at Alex McLeish and I`m afraid it all stems down to where he came from. Stats support the fact that he has a better record to Houllier last season and a record that is on par with O`Neil`s first season. I don`t remember any protests taking place back then.

In the statement issued by the protesters they state the following

'He had a full pre-season, was given £20m (approx) to spend and has players of the calibre of Darren Bent, Gabby Agbonlahor and Stephen Ireland to work with (also the most promising batch of home-grown players produced in years).

Just to address this. I can only add up 18.5 million pounds worth of purchases. In the current market that does not even begin to scratch the surface. Darren Bent has proven time and time again that he is a proven goal scorer but the fact is he has continued scoring recently despite the main channels of supply (Young & Downing) being sold. Agbonlahor and Ireland, I actually thing McLeish has done well in returning these players to form. Certainly something that the previous manager was unable to do!

What do these protesters actually hope to achieve? The sacking of McLeish? Please tell me which top flight manager is available to take his place.

These people will say in a seductive manner 'if you`re a real fan you will go and protest because how can you watch your club decline?

I say how can you go to the protest and help contribute to any potential decline by sticking the knife in? The image at of the club is not great at the moment, how do these people expect anyone of any good calibre to join a club where the fans have treated their last two managers with nothing but contempt and have a record of booing their own players. I believe David Moyes said publicly that he would never come to Villa because of how the fans treated Houllier.

I`m not denying that there are some issues that need working out, but recently we have been seeing progress on the pitch. In the last 8 games we have scored 15 goals. That is not the stat of a defensive manager, especially when you consider the likes of Chelsea and Arsenal are included in that run.

At this time we need to be uniting as fans, not further dividing. Not protesting, look at the state Blackburn fans have gotten themselves into. They are now laughed at on a daily basis.

Get behind the club, get behind the team. It is no coincidence that the away form is vastly superior to the home form, due to the never say die mentality of our brilliant away fans. We need to take that into the ground at Villa Park. Stop booing the players. Stop crying about what we have not got and what has been! Look at what we have got and push the team forward!!

That`s how this team moves forward, with loud vocal support at Villa Park. Some games we will lose, some we will win! But we need to do it together!!



Thanks for reading

Proud to be a Villan

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Writer:Proud To Be A Villan
Date:Wednesday February 8 2012
Time: 1:54PM


The debate will go on and on for sure! Interesting how the votes split really. 96-97% in a poll saying they didn't want McLeish. But only 56% think a protest is right. NOw we have the poll and seems at moment 63% on here aren't attending! I would much rather concentrate on Villa being safe first and see where we end up. If we lost the four games straight after Citeh, then .... Anyway, there you go!
the fear
08/02/2012 13:59:00
You never know,this might be turned on it`s head and be the rallying call for the rest of us (non-protestors) to get behind our manager for the first time in his role as ASTON VILLA manager. "Alex McLeish`s claret n blue army". Well the booing didn`t work.Shall we try supporting instead.Just a thought.
08/02/2012 14:05:00
yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn.... boring. Same old "get behind the team" *********. Has it eluded you that the team are in disarray and cant be arsed either ? Eck is a joke, getting us nowhere with Pointy Peter and the worry is why he was appointed by the morons upstairs.....dark times I'm afriad. You need to wake up pal !
08/02/2012 14:17:00
Im not supporting someone who is just totally not right for the Villa job at all, just doesn't make sense. Im also not going to protest because it is going to get you nowhere, there were pointless protests before Mcleish was pointed, Lerner and co went ahead with it, face facts they could not give two *****s about the supporters, Mcleish to them was a safe cheap option who would keep us clear of the relegation zone but not in the top half of the table. If the fans want to protest then the best way is too not bother going to the games, low attendances will hurt Lerner and Co the most, standing outside the ground will achieve nothing...Oh and all the fans crying about the protests, saying how they will support villa though the bad and good, give it a rest, you will all be the first to start moaning when we are relegation candidates, if not this season, next. Fans have a right to do what they want, they input money in the club, if they are not happy with some clowns running the club into the ground then fair enough, doesn't make one set of fans better than the other lot, there trying to make a difference in there way just like the non protesters are.
08/02/2012 14:18:00
I am not behind a protest for two reasons firstly it is just rehashing old scores. We know MC Leish is not (nor ever will be) the man for Villa that is not going to change. Secondly unless VP was empty of home fans for at least 3 games the Chairman is not going to sack Mc Leish. COTVABU
irish villa
08/02/2012 14:27:00
I doubt many people will show up and even if they did it will make no difference. I can't stand his boring football, poor tactics, poor signings, poor substitutions and constant excuses/false promises. If he does manage to clear out the deadwood in the summer I do not trust him to replace it sufficiently and feel we are a team in decline. A lot of people feel this way and have a right to protest. However it should be done outside the ground before/after the game. During the game why don't we all sing continuously, whether we are protestors or not. It does not have to be in support of the Manager, but the team. Lets all show the press and the club that we love our club no matter what. I'm 'proud to be a villan' and would much rather show it in a positive way. Spread the word on this as well and se how many people will do it. Villa, Villa, Villa, Villaaaaa..........
08/02/2012 14:31:00
Good post. I happen to think protesting makes the rest of the club's supporters look ridiculous and makes home results even harder to get. What is there to be in favour of? The bellyachers around the fan forums don't understand that there are people who don't feel the need to find someone to blame when things don't go the way they would like. I'm tired of hearing that wanting good things for the club but not moaning endlessly is some sort of weak position. It's easy for cynics and whingers to make out that they're the realists - when actually they're the opposite. They're just the kind of people that have to lash out when things get difficult. There are good times and bad times. The whole rollercoaster is what life and football is about - some people just can't handle it.
08/02/2012 14:45:00
Here's the bottom line. Until those of you who are constantly venting your anger on this site (it's the same names every day/week) can get past the fact that he came from Blues then you'll continue with your bitter rants. Call me any name you want, but in my opinion it's pathetic to see all of this stuff about protests and staying away just because we're not challenging for Europe. I have much more respect for McCleish than I do for a group of over-emotional fans who simply refuse to accept a manager because of where he managed before. And please don't even try to say that that's not the reason, because you know it is, regardless of whatever other type of justification you want to use. What do you expect to achieve with protesting? A new manager? Ah yes, that's a fantastic idea - change your manager in February. A new owner? Even better! Maybe we can get someone like Carson Yeung or the guy who was at Man City before - or are both of them in jail now? Maybe Ken Bates will buy the club! When we were undefeated at the start of the season we were "playing boring football." Now, we're scoring and creating chances but not winning. Do you see the correlation? Jose Mourihno was forced out of Chelsea because his football was "not exciting enough" according to Abramovich. Since then they've had a revolving door of managers and have won about 10% of what Mourihno did. So I'd assume Jose won't be good enough as a candidate if McCleish leaves? And the comment about Moyes is spot on. He'd never come to Villa because we have such a negative image throughout the country, mainly due to stuff like this! On Sunday we lost AWAY to a team that's challenging for Europe after being the better side for long periods. We have 19 and 20 year-olds anchoring our midfield. Gabby and Ireland are in-form after 18 months of being way below par. Look at Dunne's comments about Houllier - he basically said that he was upset that "his mate" was overlooked by Houllier. That mate happens to be the same individual who, between him and Dunne, has cost us at least eight goals this season.
08/02/2012 15:01:00
here here gmvillan, finally someone with some sense. All of this is making me like eck more if anything!
08/02/2012 15:06:00
Very poor article, one of the worst I have seen on this great site. Where to begin?? We start off going on that we are 13th and better than last season but fail to explain that Bloooose were only 1 point less off than us last season at the same stage and everyone knows that they got relegated. It also fails to mention that GH started to turn it round and had a definite plan for future styles of play and tactics although the players were taking time to adapt. It disregards the fact that 'This is as good as it gets under Eck and we're playing exactly how he wants us to but his style and tactics don't ******** work unless you're playing in a pub league'......... Very few give a toss where Eck came from and everyone hates the football that we are playing, neutrals especially................Then goes on to say that it wasn't 20 mil but in fact 18.5. Oh so only 92.5% of what was claimed. Did someone round it up by a months wages for Heskey?? Talk about petty.......... Then the talk goes to Bent. And believe it or not raves about how well he's scoring!!!! LOL. Do we forget his lack of touches a month or so ago and how he touched the ball less than any other player in the prem!!!LOL. And again fails to compare him with last season when he scored 9 in 16 rather than 10 in 23 ratios of 0.56 last season to 0.43. All this while playing on his own this time round.......... Then the article goes on to rant about sticking the knife in and IMHO that is all people are doing by praising or making excuses for Eck......... MON has won more games in 6 weeks than Eck has in 6 months and that's without a pre season. For every point there is a far more plausible counterpoint in this article and if you're going to be so biased you can't make it so obvious and disregard everything else. Obviously I'm biased but any neutral would agree with me. Don't give up your day job.....
08/02/2012 15:07:00
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