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Have The FA Got The Balls To 'Do' van Persie?
Will the FA take action against Arsenal star Robin van Persie? Doubt it.
Funnily enough, if I put a youtube clip up of the elbow in Carlos Cuellars face they would take action against Vital Villa though!!!
And you can guarantee if this was a Villa player elbowing van Persie, he`d be banged to rights. So will the FA?
Alex McLeish says they should and I concur! It is ok that the ref missed it during the game, he can`t see anything but the replays show very clearly Persie knew exactly what he was doing, he even positioned himself to do it.
McLeish told Sky Sports 'If it was an elbow in the face, yes I would like them to look at it,'
'I don't like to point the finger at players" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ... sorry, ahem, where was he? Oh yes, "but it's something you don't like to see. I saw it in real time and I haven't seen it again on television, but it looked like he hit him in the face with his elbow. Cuellar is not someone to go down if he hasn't been hurt.'
Regarding the game itself, McLeish added: 'We had a terrible eight minutes. The goal they got gave them a huge lift and they scored the second goal far too quickly after that.
Funny old game.
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I don't think it was an elbow at all. It was a "forearm push" for want of a better phrase. It wasn't dangerous at all. That said it was a silly thing to do and he certainly could have walked for it.
Rocky7
Sounds like sour grapes and is just a terrible way to deflect attention from our capitulation. This incident was after we were already losing. Wonder what McLoser would say if Wenger came out and says that Dunne should have received his second yellow card for the foul that led to the first penalty? Get the F'eck out of Villa!!!!!!
voiceoftheholte
Already, the media is trying to hound the FA into taking action, just as this article is. I am convinced the FA will find it hard to punish van Persie for this one as there was very little in it. It wasn't intentional or done with any malicious intent and these become important factors. This goes beyond whether the FA has the balls to ban van Persie and all that. It is about the FA being fair.
Naijagunner
Naijagunner should've gone to specsavers
Winsforvilla
I love the way Arsenal fans all the a bit of the Arsene Wenger about them. Personally I couldnt care less if they do anything now as its too late to help us - but how anyone can claim it was not deliberate is staggering. He turned and looked at him and then raised his elbow. Its hardly rocket science to work out what the end result will be!! But as the ref was stood right next to him and didnt see it, I wouldnt expect the FA to see it now. Arsenal fans are paranoid like Wenger - they may have played us off the park yesterday second half, but they were also incredibly lucky in many ways!
jvilla
The FA won't even have the balls to tell 'Arry he's not getting the England job any more when he gets an inevitably lenient punishment for being dodgier than an Italian cruise ship captain. I expect RvP to, at worse, be warned as to his future conduct and punished with player of the year in May.
lurman
If we're into pointing fingers then you have to wonder why Dunne was still on the pitch after chopping an opponent down in the box and giving away a penalty. I don't get it with all this muck-racking by beaten opponents. Learn to lose gracefully FFS!
Wyn Mills
If a player assualts another on the football pitch or not then it's a criminal offence. I'd say take legal action, get him a crininal record. There's 50,000 witnesses and video evidence. No one should be allowed to go around doing things like that, unless it's Dion Dublin against Robbie savage, which in my eyes was perfectly legal.
leelindsay
that ***** mcliesh has got some front, after his so called gentle player nearly ripped ramseys leg off he only sees what he wants to
cornish gooner
The incompetent ref saw it but chose not to do anything so theres not much the FA can do. RVP has a history of this
fulford
Bloody McLeish. Not content with ruining my club, he's now trying to f*** my fantasy football team.
SchoolBoyError
Got to agree with Voice Mcleish looking for any excuse it is sour grapes and beneath us at Villa to even mention it. And yes Dunn
should have walked for the penalty challenge. It was dissapointing to lose and if Mcleish took some of the blame for once instead of making stupid bloody excuses at least we could keep our pride.
Merlin128777
wyn mills, if you're going to post on another clubs site at least read the other posts before making yourself look like a tool. Everyone who saw the game agrees Dunne should of got a second yellow, equally we all agree that it was p**s poor defending that cost us the game but that still doesn't mean that your cheating bunch of filth should get away with their antics. The elbow by RVP and the two footed lunge at the start of the second half in your right back position should both have been straight reds and for most teams in England would have been, to add to it your precious little welsh t**t throwing himself on the floor every 30 seconds trying to get free kicks (and no I'm not including the clear fould by Dunne for the penalty) was sickening for anyone but a one eyed gooner to watch. A half decent ref yesterday might well have helped to paper over the cracks in our woeful performance, we would probably have still lost but it would have been interesting.
AVbornandbred
There is no point in punishing van Persie because Villa have nothing to gain and everything to lose by a suspension, if he misses games against Villa's rivals. Villa lost fair and sqare and grabbing at such straws hardly adds any dignity to the loss.
Steve Wade
The difference leelyndsey between van persie-sugden and big dion's was dion nutted savage i i remember correctly which was a beauty and he should have received a statue for that action no doubt, MBE for dion anyone ;)
clivethevillan
Hey, I read the other posts, but it was the headline grabbing trashy write-up above (obviously penned to generate net traffic) that I was responding to. Where exactly does the writer say Dunne could just as easily have been given his marching orders? I couldn't give a rat's arse how poorly you defended (Hell, we do enough of it ourselves) but trying to get one of our players banned is just low class, and calling us a cheating bunch of filth is rich coming from you lot.
Wyn Mills
I've one thing to say to McLeash: Van Persie isn't that sort of player. He's a lovely lad who wouldn't hurt a fly. In fact, he's distraught about the serious career threatening injury sustained by the boy Cuellar.
Wyn Mills
As Rio Ferdinand said 'VP up to his old tricks again'.. The players know what's going on and Van Persie has a reputation for this type of behaviour. He is agreat player but a dirty git as well..So was Johnny Giles and many others...and yes, Richard Dunne should have been sent off under the current rules, but that was not a dirty tackle, just a clumsy one. Definite penalty, but no malice. Not so sure Bent's challenge was a pen. Seen them given, seem them not
krfeskivilla
This game will be remembered for the elbow aassault and not bad defending which lost us the game. You just cannot condone that sort of behaviour Wyn Mills! Surely with your red tints on you can see that or are you gooner deny it? Watch it back and come back to us.
holte ender 1969
elbow assault?? He didn't swing his arm atall, he just seems to brace himself for the contact from Cuellar's challenge. He saw Cuellar behind him, yes, but you don't protect yourself with your face or your gonads. FFS. This is Eck going on about something to try to get the focus off his inabilities and constant failings. Can someone else start talking to the press as he winds me up as I'm sure he does many more.....
Villan444
"I don't like to point the finger at players, but it has happened to mine enough times."???? Don't remember lots of these this year but then your Eckscuse wouldn't be as good would it you uselesss excuse of a manager.
Villan444
Quite right...The FA haven't got the balls...Can't upset Arsene and one of the original 'Sky 4'...There is no consistency.. Ballotelli gets the book thrown at him, and Crouch and Van Persie get away with it? .. If it's about 'intent' how can you differentiate between Balotelli and Van Persie's intent.. Bizarre..but it had nothing to do with why we lost, and doesn't really matter a jot to us, but I do think he knew what he was doing (and so did Crouch)
krfeskivilla
I couldn't care less to be honest! Im not interested if another teams player is going to banned, fined or whatever. We lost the game through silly mistakes, nothing else but it is all done, we are out the cup...Mcleish is trying to cover the fact he kinda messed up by going on at VP. If the elbow was worthy of a ban then im sure he will get whats coming.
P.Avfc
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that the FA don't have any power to do anything because in this instance the Ref saw the incident and decided against any action. The FA would only step in if the incident went unseen I believe.
AVFC4ME
why is this even being discussed?? i'm with P.Avfc, move on folks it is not the reason we lost.
leftfoot
Can we all please just get over this ? Arsenal outplayed us after we went 2-0 up, Dunne was lucky to still be on the pitch, yes RVP has form for this kinds of behaviour but on balance it doesn't affect the outcome, which was that we lost, and we didn't lose because of Van Persie's elbow. We lost because of crappy defending. Move on folks, QPR coming up next and a game we have to win. UTV
ExpatVillaShirt
Well said Expat.
applesmoke
@Voiceoftheholte. Can you tell me what you expect from villa?? All you do is rant and call for Ecks head!! So lets say we sack Eck... what then???? I wonder if you are in need of a reality check.
applesmoke
applesmoke, you've just agreed with expat and then disagreed with VOTH who both said roughly the same thing except Voice said Eck out?!?!?!?!?! What do you expect??? Permanent mediocrity, boring, predictable, unwatchable, sunday pub football??? No-one is going to get anything more and most likely a lot less from Eck. VOTH was one of the last to turn against him (not that he can't speak for himself)and was giving him time but has had enough along with 90 odd % of the rest of us. I know you need a reality check. What do you want, I can't watch this football. The lads take to the pitch with their tails between their legs unless we're playing bottom 3.We hoof forward and hope that we score then we all charge back and hope that we can kick the ball as far away from our goal as possible to defend. This isn't football.
Villan444
Hey 444. Not sure how those 2 post are even close to being related but lets not dwell on such issues. I think your judgement on villas football thus far this season is a little harsh. But in some way accurate. My point is really is that we can all see the issues, but what do we propose? whats beyond sacking the manager??? We need an entire new defence and we have zero budget!?? We need not to be short sighted. What does the Owner want to do with the club?
applesmoke
Disagree RE: the defence applesmoke. MON had 3 of those in the 3rd best defence in the league 18 months ago. They haven't become poor overnight. They should be played to their strengths which Eck is clueless at working out. Ditto with the likes of Bent, Gabby, (the newly purchased by himself) NZogbia and basically everyone else. We are playing in a formation which HE is responsible for and no-one else. Hutton is an absolute joke who was purchased again by him. As you say mate, we can all see it, I choose to blame him entirely though, although I appreciate that the defence needs a freshen up. So, we have zero budget but what little we have, Eck wastes on toilet or players who won't fit into his mystery lineup in which he accidentally finds a goal or good half every month. Eck must go first as he isn't capable regardless of who's in his team.
Villan444
lets agree to disagree about the defence. My view is that they had a great 6 months under MON and have then started to fall of since. Under MON we never retained the ball from defence. We were a counter attacking team set up to defend deep and play out directly. Any way my point isn't to illustrate what we are doing wrong, we can all see that. So lets say we sack big eck tomorrow... Where do we go from there????
applesmoke
Anyone except, avram grant, o'leary, Neil Lennon off the top of my head would all do better. Chatting to a boro fan who was raving about southgate the other day, Darren ferguson, kmac. Again off the top of my head, none would be our first choice but all would work with what we've got and not need millions. All would do far better than Eck IMHO. We'll never know though as randy hasn't got the balls to admit his ***** up!!!!
Villan444
What was he saying about Southgate Villan444? A fair few took against him but to be fair, that was his first big job..
The Fear
Southgate who left Villa for Boro because they were a 'bigger better team'?? Wash your mouths out. Horrible excuse for a man.
onlyteaminthemids
Just that Southgate was doing really well after the initial relegation and looked like going straight back up but then they sacked him for another ginger scotsman who was utterly useless and brought in a load of his fellow countrymen. LOL. Sounds familiar!!!!
Villan444
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