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Down Down Deeper & Down? Au Revoir

Down Down Deeper & Down?  Au Revoir

For the fact I`ve got a bit of a mouth on me and all that...!... I have never been one for knee jerk reactions to managers and despite having serious reservations about our former manager Martin O`Neill my comment was that he`d earnt the right for another season with two Wembley trips and 6, 6, 6...

With that said... I would like today to see two words from Gerard Houllier ... a manager I`ve done nothing but support and stick up for in these forums since he arrived.

The two words have to be au revoir.

I can no longer support 'that`... I was there yesterday, the best part of the day was the train journey up and the crack with the lads from Vital and also a great bunch I had a chat and a laugh with in one of the pubs before the game (they insisted I`d said I wanted Sam Allardyce following Steve Wade`s article and ripped me a new one! LOL... Honest lads, I don`t want him here... ! LOL)

I can now see why French football is in such a shambles and why they exited the World Cup so quickly if Houllier was amongst those at the top of the tree 'sorting them out`.

If he stays... and as said, this seems totally alien to be saying this about a manager who hasn`t really even started in some ways and knee jerk reactions are never the best but I do fear our new song to run out to before games would need to be:

I had a Spurs mate text me the other day saying 'I didn`t realise you were that bad`.... The Manchester City fans we spoke to after the game in the pub were also shocked and said that they hadn`t even played that well and that if they had turned it on, they thought it could have been eight.

I`d gone up there intending to have a laugh, I said that I was going to spend the game looking away from the pitch and that I`d invent my own match report no matter what happened on it. Sadly I don`t feel like doing that as we were so inept yesterday that joking about it doesn`t seem at all appropriate.

The away fans are always - I think - the most loyal and die hard of fans and yet some were leaving before half time, I didn`t blame them at all, a few of my mates also wanted out, we were at the back of the stand and two just sat down and had a chat, no view of the game at all. I begged them to stay, they did, it went from bad to worse and I had to asses, did I want to walk out for the first time I can remember (apart from Man Utd game years back when I wanted to see England play in the Rugby World Cup ... something very different that walking in disgust) and stick with my mates and the crack, or did I want to do what I always do. Stay and support Villa.

I left....

My first game was 1977...I've done about 20 years season ticket wise I think (or the old student voucher scheme) with just a 2 year (ish) break after my brain op (the Villa didn't do anything to help in those days, not like now) I have never walked out of a game just after half time in my life. Now I know some (voiceoftheholte, come on man!!!!) will say that is wrong and you stay and support but I do support, I was supporting, I was there, I love Villa as much as the next man but when the players don`t care, the manager has no clue and we are back to the dark days of David O`dearme (who in his defence had no money to spend, was at the end of a pretty tired club board wise + had a lot of injuries etc) I just couldn`t see my way to ditch my mates and stay. Support is a two way street and the more I read the comments from players (Pires the other day, sorry, that was pathetic... he should have a look at our fine sportsmen over in Australia missing their family and friends but retaining the Ashes... that is proper sporting 'sacrifice`) and the more I see the haunted expressionless face of our current manager, the deader I feel.

Maybe years of fighting have finally caught up with the Villa`s claret and blue army, the so near and yet so far feeling has been replaced with a totally sinking feeling and I think as a fan base we are pretty loyal, stand by our team well and all we want is to see pride in the shirt.

Yesterday there was no pride. I`d not be able to do a proper match report if I tried, I could certainly not rate any of the players but as a team including the manager, they`d get a zero.

A young lad coming out at the same time as us said the players should give their weeks wages to charity.

So how about it Villa, manager, coaches, players... give your wages to Acorns to apologise to the fans. They would make good use of it and it would go some way to show that you really do care.

If this continues we are in a battle royale to stay up. I kept saying no way would we get sucked into a relegation battle but look at our fixtures ....

Chelsea away...
Sunderland at Villa Park (massive game)
Blues away
Man City at home
Wigan away (another massive game)
Man Utd away

And then what could be a crunch month.... Feb with three who will be there or there abouts battle wise... Fulham, Blackpool and Blackburn.


Our latest poll, suggested by hill678 asks if Houllier should go.... When I sent it I said no way... my vote is different today. Fickle? No. Gutted? Yes

And so who in?

Thankfully, not my job, but trust me lads, not Big Sam... unless it was a straight choice between him and Houllier and no one else! (Good to meet you all yesterday, you were gentlemen and scholars!)

Click here to join in the debate on the club forum.

Writer:J P Fear
Date:Wednesday December 29 2010
Time: 9:42AM


He has got to go JF. Feel really sorry for anyone who travelled north yesterday. What a shambles.
jake findlay
29/12/2010 09:48:00
never known a manager lose the fans so quickly, I started the 'you've got to laugh my lord' song yesterday but to be fair, none of us were laughing. When you start taking the st michael out of your own team you know you are in trouble really don't you? I remember Glensider talking about similar at one of our other away games. He's obviously not got the dressing room and he's not got the fans, it will take a very big decision now to save this season.
The Fear
29/12/2010 09:53:00
haha, classic football fan fickleness. You see it on our site all the time with people saying redknapp needs to go. I bet all the people who were after O'neils head have now changed there tune, mabye if you'd have given hu=im better support he might not have thought ***** you lot, and left. You brought it all on yourselfs with your constant booing at home games etc, the grass aint always greener.
29/12/2010 09:53:00
Can Randy afford to bin him financially, would he have to pay the full 8 million out to him?
jake findlay
29/12/2010 09:57:00
The overwhelming majority of villa fans feel exactly the same as you do Fear I'm sure. Most of us didn't particularly want him appointed but were prepared to give the bloke the benefit of the doubt. Well, we've done that and it aint working, so au revoir.
29/12/2010 09:58:00
Houllier has no interest in Villa. He's back in the premiership to remind everyone that he used to be manager at Liverpool, and it was him not Benitez that really won the European Cup for them but himself. It was a shocking appointment.
Pancho Villan
29/12/2010 09:59:00
I feel sorry for sll those who travelled up - at let I only made a short journey from Hindley Green (near Wigan). I was in the same camp as my esteemed fellow campaigner and Villa stalwart Mr Fear but even I the patient old senile git have decided enough is enough and for the first time in 49 years of supporting Villa I have decided this manager does not deserve any more time. He reminds me so much of Turner who was lost at a big club all the way up from Shrewsbury Town FC!
29/12/2010 09:59:00
Sad to read this man .... but i'm confident you guys will stay up. Hope the next half of the season is far better for you'll ( but only after the Cheslea match - i support Chelsea :-) ) ... you're too good a club to be fighting a relegation battle.
29/12/2010 10:07:00
We are about to discover no Villa boss can afford to lose the backing of The Fear!
The Real Neil
29/12/2010 10:25:00
I didn't see any of yesterday's game so I can't pass comment but against Spuds, despite not having the craft to break down a 7 man defence, I saw plenty of effort and passion. Can things really have changed so much from game to game or is it just a problem with away games or perhaps the proverbial bad day at the office? I'm not making excuses, just genuinely asking questions.
Villan Of The North
29/12/2010 10:28:00
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