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Are We Being Fickle?

Are We Being Fickle?

BeardMasterFlex asks, are we being fickle?

Is it too early for us to start jumping on the manager's back? Well, I'm about as fed up with watching Villa as anyone else right now. Although I'm living in Aus these days and not able to attend matches I do my best to watch the games staying up very late or getting up very early to watch them, and believe me I have often why I don't just sleep through the games lately given how poor we've been.

For some reason every time the stream connects we're about to concede or we have just conceded, last time against the filth it connected just when Dunne fouled Larsson. This time it was watching that pathetic Ngog easily nod one in, really not what you want to see when you've just dragged yourself out of a nice cosy sleep!

Anyway, onto my point, although we're shocking at the moment I still think the Gerard out posts are a bit premature, its not his fault he's had more than half the team out with injuries, nor is it his fault he was given the job when he was. Tactics and team selection yes, I can see why people are hacked off, I don't understand why Cuellar isn't playing, I also don't understand why Downing is used on the right and why we persist with Ashley up front over Fonz when he's clearly not that effective.

However the fundamental reason we're playing so poorly is simply our squad is so decimated by injuries right now the back four don't get the protection they are used to from the midfield and this is a large contributing factor as to why we are shipping so many goals. Playing the youngsters is a good thing, but their confidence is easily shaken, and without an experienced Petrov or NRC at least in the middle we are looking incredibly powder puff in that department. Its also obvious that Ireland and Carew don't really want to play for us, and that only really breeds the negativity and low confidence that is manifesting itself throughout the squad at present.

Other than that, our forward line is a problem that has plagued us for a while, before Gerard, and he's had no chance to mould the squad at all apart from bringing in Pires who looks like he needs a Zimmer frame when he's playing. Ok so really all I'm saying is just have a bit of patience, give the man till after Jan, Carew and Ireland will no doubt be gone (praying). We'll have a few more bodies back in the midfield and Houllier will have a chance to bring some decent players in hopefully not past their best and hopefully people who can make a difference, after all they need to for his sake. So my final thought goes back to the title, are we being fickle?

We don't help ourselves with that tag that's for sure. I saw an article on here saying bring Kmac if that isn't fickle I don't know what is, everyone wanted him gone by the time we played Everton!

Keep the faith, and support the team through these incredibly testing times people, things will get better!

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Date:Wednesday December 8 2010
Time: 3:38PM


When you think about Villa this season since Houllier has come in, the worrying problem is we aren't beating anyone but we are out-playing so many teams but we can't finish off chances and can't defend to save our lives. It should be a simple problem put right easily and we could start a run up but it isn't working because Houllier is doing something wrong. Whether it is that the players at the back can't be arsed to defend because Gerard is manager I don't know but something is wrong with the mentality of our defenders and it needs to be put right. If we have to fire Houllier to get our players happy again then so be it but whether the manager goes or players go, something has to change because at the moment we aren't and will not pick up results. Our midfield play is good but what is the point in playing well against every team in the league if you win 5 games, draw 15 and lose the other 18? You will still go down a league. Something has to change and if we don't beat West Brom then it has to be the manager that walks.
08/12/2010 18:22:00
Forget getting up to be disapointed mate, just watch the Ashes!
08/12/2010 20:11:00
Aren't all football supporters fickle? I think they are. Its a very emotional affair when you're supporting your team, and to the vast majority of supporters, its either black or its white, there's never any in-between ground. Is Houllier the right man for Aston Villa Football Club? I think not, have thought that way since the very first day that his name was touted in the media, but I can hold my hands up and openly admit that I hope he proves me very wrong. I hope he takes us onwards and upwards, and builds on the strong base that he inherited from Martin O'Neill. Lets face it, O'Neill was always going to be a very hard act to follow. Lerner decided that Houllier was the man for the job, and so we have to live with it. Sadly for Houllier circumstances have hardly helped his cause, but even allowing for that, he has hardly made a success of his first few months in charge, and as we all well know, the club occupies a rather worrying position in the premier league. Not where we expected to be, eh? I accept that we are in a transitional period, but let us not forget that transition does not mean decline. Far from it, but the facts stare us in the face. We are in decline, a worrying decline in fact. Making a managerial change would be a very brave decision on Lerner's behalf, a huge gamble to take, and I personally will be very surprised if he takes that step. Winning just two games since his arrival, two extremely fortunate victories at that, is a poor return by Houllier, and in my opinion, inexcusable. I expected problems after O'Neill kicked us in the privates, but I certainly didn't expect this level of decline. So am I fickle right now, or am I worried and seriously concerned?You tell me, because if Houllier guides us to three successive victories, I'll no doubt start warming a little to him. I doubt he'll ever win me over, thats if of course he even remains at Villa Park long enough for him to stand a chance of doing that, but if the club starts doing well, returns to the upper reaches of the top flight, then great, I'll dance the Houllier dance, but if this slump continues.....well, I just hope it doesn't. So fickle, me? I'd say yes, definitely.
08/12/2010 20:20:00
Aint that the truth fatloser? The Ashes. Now the efforts of our lads down under are really warming the cockles of my heart this winter, something my beloved AVFC are completely failing to do. All Hail cricket, and all Hail the fact that the pressure is on the Aussies. In fact they are almost, but not quite, under as much pressure and scrutiny as is our friend Gerard.
08/12/2010 20:23:00
Glensider _ did the Ashes squad just fall together or was there some heartache on the way to developing a strong squad? The fact is the guy is here and will be for some time. Constant begative comments will only sap vital energy. Fickle? Yes we are.
08/12/2010 20:35:00
Yeah, the ashes is definitely something to smile about, I was getting stick at work on the first day and then its all gone very quiet from my Aussie colleagues who admit they're getting a hiding at the moment. I'm not the biggest cricket fan but hey, I'll gloat if England are spanking the Aussies at something for once! Seriously praying Villa can start doing the same to a few teams in the league, if there's a god, it will happen.
08/12/2010 21:15:00
Make a move for Martin Jol, drop Houlier off at Knutsford services with a few quid and lets kick on.
09/12/2010 09:51:00
As people have said above, ALL football fans are fickle. When you are winning everything is hunky dory, when you are losing it ain't!! End of the day, I am still 100% behind GH but its a results business and for that reason fans have every right to be asking questions.
09/12/2010 10:36:00
astvil, I wouldn't question the desire of the defence (they chuck their bodies at everything) just the intelligence. Lack of judgement and poor decision making coupled with regular cock ups have reduced our back four to a shambles. The issue up front is nothing new, MON thought Carew and Heskey were the answer! when bent was available. GH has only had a partly fit Gabby and the Fonz to pick until the waste of oxygen thats taller than me an you decided he was fit again recently. I'm far from convinced by GH but lets see what strike power is brought in in Jan before we write him off completely. I will never love GH, but I do love the Villa, come to think of it I didn't have much love for Saunders to start with either....
09/12/2010 13:05:00
^^^^if GH is half the manager smiling Ron was then we are in for a treat long term.
holte ender 1969
10/12/2010 07:24:00
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