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Stan Collymore Not Impressed By Appointment

Stan Collymore is the latest to voice his dissent following the official announcement that Gerard Houllier is to be our new manager.

Earlier on SSN there was a mini interview with Paul Merson and he seemed less than enamoured that Villa had gone for a 'foreign coach' as opposed to an up and coming English manager - a thought that has entered many a fans mind since O'Neill quit, especially mine as I'd have been overjoyed to see somebody like Mental Holloway or Nigel of Clough and see us go for a real long term plan for achievement and dominance....anyhoo - Collymore is concerned that Hoooooolies doesn't have enough Premier League experience since leaving Liverpool all those years ago, and Lyon back in 2007.

Speaking to Talksport the former Villa striker stuck doggedly to his point.

'If it was a manager that was looking to build the club and take it on from three 6th placed finished with O'Neill surely you'd give him longer than two years.

'An interim manager is what Randy and Paul are viewing it as. It's almost a kind of trial. If he needs a trial then it doesn't send to me, as an Aston Villa supporter, a very positive sign.'

All valid points, and for these purposes I'll ignore the fact nobody so far agrees on whether it's a one year, two year or three year deal.

Unfortunately it misses:

1 - it could be short term stability for a host of reasons; simply to provide stability, and improve our non existent scouting. If so, a known name, with a track record 'could' you would think provide more stability than Kevin MacDonald who is still learning the ropes as a 'manager'.

2 - it could be a short term appointment to allow Kev Mac a touch longer to take the reigns.....grooming if you will. Equally, if our first choice was not available for whatever reason, and Hooooolies is taking on the role with the full knowledge that he will be asked later to head up scouting, or a DOF role when our choice becomes available, then again the contract length makes sense.

3 - it could be a trial period of sorts, wherein the end game is a long term view BUT given Hooolies has been out of the hotseat for a few years, and many fans have not only reservations about his appointment but also his health, the 2 year contract is to simply see if he can handle the rigours of the Premiership again, and can meet the aims stated by the board for the next two years - let alone winning over those fans who have concerns.

If it doesn't work out, surely it's better for the club to not have him tied to a 5 year contract?

I don't see the length of the contract 'if two years' as being indicative of the aims behind the appointment, which Colly obviously does.

The most valid point in Collies interview for me is the following:

'The worry for me is that Aston Villa have a really good British based first team and Academy.'

Ok, Collymore frames it as two sides of Houllier, pre and post heart troubles given how it ended at Liverpool and the high profile French signings that flopped but again that can be reasonably countered by 'presuming' that part of his role will be to improve scouting, and I just can't see how or why Randy would not have made our Academy a big part of that remit.

Collymore is intimating that Hooooolies will destroy it in short by bringing in a host of French players meaning our youngsters will not get through into the team.

I just don't see the board not having covered this and laid down certain ground rules, given how important they realise we value homegrown players and the financial advantages of having a youngster make it.

Hoooolies scouting improvements can only benefit the Academy in my mind, but they exist pretty much independently of first team activities anyway so I don't see the clash, and I think it's unlikely we'll regret the appointment for that reason....even though it is a valid concern.

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Writer: Mike Field Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Wednesday September 8 2010

Time: 11:08PM

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Since when does anyone listen to that twerp?
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08/09/2010 23:14:00

i agree collywobbles let us down we paid 8.5mill for him to turn a friggin alcholic doggin wan**r i aint gonna listento him for sure guys. i remember watchin him standin on the half way line with his sleeves over his hands cos the ball wasnt near him totally wasted talant n lazy as for me im optimistic hope he can win us a cup, isnt it funny how many so called experts come out the woodwork like mersin and colly when wot do they reallt know apart from sayin wot they like when it means nothin
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09/09/2010 00:40:00

;uv this site by the way isnt it great to see n write ur opinions on vill instead of havin to read about man u chelski etc thanks mike n co
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09/09/2010 00:42:00

Erm Stan wasn't MO'N on a rolling contract? I'd say two years is about right, see where we are end of next season, if its all going tits up then we can look for someone else, if its going well he earns an extension. The board aren't stupid, and a lot of negative fans and critics would have a bad word to say whoever we went for.
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09/09/2010 02:41:00

lol javyfc! MON was on a yearly rolling contract, so the length of Houlliers contract seems a bit irrelevant in comparison especially when he proved he won't walk out on jobs and only left the FFF when persmission was granted, unlike someone else I could mention but now won't!
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09/09/2010 08:25:00

Reservations or not, Houllier is obviously excited and as long as he doesn't bring Titi Camara out of retirement and is able to widen out scouting a touch I don't think we'll go far wrong. With players like Delph, Delf, Albie, Bannan all coming though I will be keen to see who Houllier attracts for centre mid? Fear, Mike, any chance of a "what french players would we like?" article please?
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09/09/2010 08:41:00

Collymoore hut the F Up and let us true fans get behing our new manager our team our club & Randy Lerner....I'm getting sick of all the negative crap. fat Alan Brazil on Talk*****e is even saying Villa fans are not happy. BULL ***** we have a great Football man who has a proven track record which is better than any manager we have had in modern times. This doesn't mean he will be a success but lets get behind him and prove those *****s are wrong. They dont even give us the time of day normally but all of a suddden clain to be experts on our club. UTV
Birchy RIP
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09/09/2010 09:03:00

I read the article, thought "oh ek, that'll start a load of Collymore abuse" and I was not disappointed! Don't think he has a point there really, well not an intelligent thought through argument anyway. But it's like a lot of his comments recently, based very much on getting a reaction. Poor guy really has fallen from grace hasn't he.
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09/09/2010 09:04:00

Whilst i don't agree with his off field antics i always liked colly as a player. had his problems though and wasted his chance in the end. I agree also that I am disappointed and would hope that this appointment is based on a long term plan with Houlls moving upstairs and Moyes shifting to VP in the next two yrs after doing nowt at Toffee pops. UTV.
holte ender 1969
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09/09/2010 11:18:00

Collymore, we dont care what you think, lets just get behind the new boss and see where it takes us.
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09/09/2010 11:40:00

I dont have the time of day for Stan Collymore all he is good for is smacking people round rnd and getting legless.
Ted 369
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09/09/2010 16:19:00

I don't know why you are all giving Collymore the bird - he loves the Villa, he always bigs us up on the radio. You may not agree with his views but at least he gives his opinion rather than sitting on the fence and it's always good to hear a Black Country accent on the radio. I don't really understand how Villa fans can give another Villa fan a hard time?
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09/09/2010 21:44:00

Piper its not about giving any Villa fan a hard time just the bare facts m8, what gutted me more than his personal life was how he let us fans down when we paid 8.5mill for him, and he let us and himself down, thas wot i remember i do respect he is a villa fan but he aint no tayls, (ian taylor) he put his heart n soul every game thats the type of high profile villa fan i want to listen to or Big Ron not colly's opinoin really. Lets be honest i wonder how much the media really take note of what he thinks after his shananigans in past. i want us all to get behind the team manager and give it a go u never know this could be a happy turnaround :)
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09/09/2010 21:58:00

ctv. Collymore had a recognised illness whilst at the Villa and the fact that John Gregory didn't understand how to deal with it is not Collymores fault. Just because you couldn't see his medical condition in the way you can with a broken leg for example, doesn't mean it isn't dibilitating. It is also worth noting the times of controversy in his career coincided with his illness. It is also not Collymores fault that the club paid £7m for him. So no he isn't Ian Taylor, however he does more to raise the profile of our great club than Taylor does. And that isn't a slight on the wonderful Ian Taylor, more a word of praise for Collymore.
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10/09/2010 13:34:00


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