Writer: J P Fear
Date:Monday September 6 2010
As you would expect of any manager linked to the Villa job, Gerard Houllier is getting a mixed reaction by fans on our message boards.
The vote in the forum is a close run thing: (Click Here) and some fans are saying we are doomed and it is the end of the world whereas others are delighted. That leaves many in the middle who won't write off the appointment (if made) but maybe aren't chomping at the bits with excitement.
I've sent some questions out to Liverpool mates, which might help. My postman... oh god, Fear is off you cry... is a Liverpool fan (born and bred, tattoo to show his love etc) and says we could do a hell of a lot worse, his squad was the one that won the Champions League and he played some good football.
I spoke to a Liverpool supporting friend of mine (I say friend, more care in the community if I am honest) who said: 'Good man manager, was excellent until his heart op at Pool then seemed (understandably) to loose a little passion.' Adding, 'Fans loved him for the football he delivered up to then though. You could do worse.'
I'm slightly surprised (again, if the appointment is made) that we have turned to a 63 year old but then with age comes wisdom and Sir Alex Chewalot isn't exactly a spring chicken, nor is Roy Hodgson.
Houllier might just be the steadying factor we need at the club, he can do his bit as manager and maybe move upstairs to continue the football revolution!? The scouting system needs sorting and it would be good to see us scour Europe for players, not just the UK.
For me, the football can't get any worse than it was under Martin O'Neill (I know, 6, 6, 6 and a good cup run or two, but boy was I bored...) and the fact he walked out and turned his back on the club also has made it so very difficult for the board to get a manager in. If he'd gone in May he'd have gone with far more thanks, dignity and respect as far as I'm concerned (not talking for anyone else before people get their knickers in a twist at me!)
Anyway... Some comments from Villa fans... oh and the forum thread, 92/100 split of yes and no at the moment. Click Here.... contains strong language..!
Don't mind if Houllier is manager - not exactly a dream appointment but better than most. Wouldn't want him as director of football though; high profile directors of football always go badly badly wrong.
I think Gerard Houlier's football knowledge, transfer contacts and overall experience of wining trophies would be a good thing, only thing that worries me is this tech director of football thing, ok so Chelsea liverpool have em so maybe not that bad, but i remember all the shenanigans at the barcodes with Dennis wise, also spurs with frank arnason interfering, but i believe Houllier would be good for us helping out Big Mac who we know the players respond to with Houllier guiding him and helping him bring in foreign talent. Big Mac i deserves a crack at the big time and with a little guidance from upstairs and ability to attract players, I'm for it
lerneravfc said 'This place should be buzzing at the possibility of getting a manager with his record,instead you want to play armchair expert and rake over his signings. Its not about whether you like someone or not its about whether they do the business for the club.'
James06 said ' Let's have a reality check: look at the squad, look at the clubs current status and look at the spending power. Houllier has been top level Champions League manager for most of his career and has an impressive trophy haul. He would be a brilliant manager to bring in IMO, the question is would he come to us, and can we meet his standards?'
100% Villa pointed out:
Houllier club honours
1 × French League: 1985-86
1 × UEFA Cup: 2000-01
1 × UEFA Super Cup: 2001
1 × FA Cup: 2000-2001
2 × Football League Cup: 2000-2001, 2002-03
1 × FA Community Shield: 2001
2 × French League: 2005-06, 2006-07
2 × Champions Trophy: 2005, 2006
Coeur de Lion: 'We're all agreed that there's a lot of behind the scenes work to be done in terms of scouting etc and in truth I can't think of a better person to come and do that. I'm not a fan of his football either, but then there aren;t a lot of managers out there that play champagne football to be fair!'
P.AVFC: 'I think personally he would be good, Experienced and a good win percentage record at liverpool + he has a wide rage of knowledge on young talent.'
Villa4Europe: 'I'd be happy with Houllier...good track record and he will improve our scouting network no end'
And TuBBz... (yes, he is local) 'I think our scouting system will take an overall that has been needed for years. Looking forward to getting some young European talent'
Brian11: 'Houllier won 2 French titles with Lyon while away from the premier league. We need to look at the next manager bringing players in and development, Houllier is very involved with the development and training of young French players and it's this quality that could push us forward. I don't think any of us could complain if we sign the next Henry or Desailly. Out of all the managers available I'd much rather have Houllier his record speaks for itself unlike Koemans.'
And a mixed one here.... revdpete... 'You know, I've spent a lot of time thinking about this, even praying, and as I sat in church this morning I was suddenly struck by a revelation. It was indeed a moment of almost inspired thought, and I can now reveal this to you. I have no particular feelings for Mr Houllier. Phew. Really glad I got that off my chest.'
'Terrible appointment, particularly if KMac is still the manager! We would be stuck with a DoF who has a reputation of signing awful players that don't perform (Baros, El Hadj Diouf et al) and a manager who has been terrible since the first game of the season (which MoN helped prepare for if rumours are to be believed). I don't mind a DoF and manager but not these two!' Tez86
Skeggy... 'Ridiculous he hasn't managed a club of any sort for a good few years!'
BEEFY: 'Nah, what we need is a true pioneer of the game. Someone with contacts throughout the land. A man who has signed players for 5k and sold them for 12M. A fella who isn't adverse to dealing with the media. Yes.....'Herberts Claret and Blue Army' sure does have a nice ring to it. Just imagine all the crosses we'll be putting in the box with young Albrighton bombing down the wing - we need a man who can teach our forwards how to perfect the overhead kick and capitalise on these crosses. It's perfect. I wouldn't be surprised if he's applied for it.'
Strong words from Pancho Villan: 'Houllier will destroy this football club. It will be a disaster. Lerner - you have been warned !'
And the usually ultra positive glensider is a bit fed up as well: 'Very disappointing anti-climax to the past three weeks, if indeed Houllier and MacDonald are to be handed the reins. Extremely disappointing.' Addiing 'Its a cheapjack, thoroughly disappointing appointment (if true). A second rate set-up, and if this is truly the best Lerner and co come up with, then I really despair. Give them a chance? What choice does a Villan have?'
He'sbiggerthanyouandme: 'i gave the board a 'chance' to prove to us that they've still got the club's best interests at heart but it looks like they've truly given up the fight now!!, if they can't see how far out of his depth Macdonald is then what hope have we got? it's bullsh/t from top to bottom.'
StuLinney: 'I've tried to stay optimistic about who we will appoint but this last week has been something of a disappointment. Gerard Houllier? Seriously? If appointed every single thing he does should come under scrutiny. At 63 he is experienced enough not to be making any mistakes. His appointment would obviously be an admission from the board that they didn't want to spend any money. With Houllier in charge, I will be expecting an instant improvement from the 6th place finish last season & on the points total. By the way, it can't say too much about the man's character if he's willing to walk out on his country (where he works as Technical Director) for another shot at the Premier League'
And the classic line from Deanovilla... 'No thanks. I don't know why. Just an irrational hatred. I think it's his ankles.' (He does later in the thread say: 'The least any of us can do is give them a chance.')
Date:Monday September 6 2010
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