UK time is: 19:22:45
Vital Login
Social Login

Choose your club

Other Sites

Network Navigation

Vital Partners

'If It's Football, It's Vital'

A Revolting Manager Selection At Villa?

Well, the press seem to be all over the Gerrard Houllier link.

The Daily Star reports Paul Hetherington & Harry Pratt say that Villa tried and failed to lure Everton boss David Moyes to Villa and so are going to go with a joint manager set up with Houllier and Kevin MacDonald in charge.

They say Houllier will also be responsible for 'overseeing the development of the club' with MacDonald doing the coaching.

There seems murmurs of 'disaster' from some fans and I must admit, I'm not sure a 63-year-old with a worrying health record due to his heart problems alongside a man who was constantly unsure whether he actually even wanted to be considered for the job is the dream package. However, on the flipside Big Mac knows the club inside out and gets on with the players and as this report (and other reports we've covered this week) Houllier did help Lyon win titles in 2006 and 2007 + got the treble for Liverpool many moons ago.

This report says that his experience in setting up a Europe wide scouting network is of most interest.

Now they repeat.... which is a rumour I perhaps started the other day... So Now The Press Say Houllier But No Sven! ahem, cough cough.. that Big Mac will bring in Steve Staunton but a poster on Villa Talk apparently spoke with Stan the other day and he said it wasn't true...

Ok, this is where it gets interesting...

The News Of The World say that the players are revolting.

No, not literally, but Greg Gob ere the reporter, says that some senior players are not at all happy with the suggestion of this appointment and it will will spell the end of their career at the club.

Ah, happy days are here again!

Apparently both Brad Friedel and Stephen Warnock were unhappy under Houllier at Liverpool. both endured unhappy spells at Anfield under the French coach.

Ah now, this is interesting because it matches my information, they say Previous manager Martin O'Neill left after causing friction in the dressing room. The loss of a dressing room is usually the end isn't it? So if Houllier was brought in and the players weren't happy from the start?

Nothing is ever simple is it?

forum

I would also point out this is only press talk, we don't know for a fact that Houllier is in contention ... remember it wasn't long ago they were telling us that USA coach Bob Bradley was coming, something that was 100% not true in any way, shape or form.

The report... click here for full report: The News Of The World quotes a Villa source said: "When it was revealed Houllier was the favourite for the Villa, it went down like a lead balloon with a couple of the players. You can't underestimate the strength of feeling, especially of someone such as Brad Friedel who felt he had no relationship with Houllier when he was at Anfield."

The press are also widely reporter Houllier quotes as he was over here for the Jamie Carragher testimonial saying, "Never and always are the two words you can't use in football."

Just been told there was a fairly positive analysis of this on the Sky programme Sunday Supplement, I'll give it a quick watch and summarise if the points raised add anything to the debate.

Oh, the Star also point out that Houllier is currently technical director of the French Football Federation...gulp, how did their World Cup go again! :o)

Does make sense someone with experience but really split on these joint set ups and reports are suggesting he would want to have a say in the tactics and team selection, so how does that work?

As said, all just press talk, he might not be an option OR he might be the perfect option in a set up that suits both him and Big Mac... who knows?






Use your social login to comment on front page articles. Login using you Facebook, Twitter, Google or LinkedIn accounts and have your say!



Click here to join in the debate on the club forum.

The Journalist

Writer: J P Fear Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Sunday September 5 2010

Time: 10:25AM

Your Comments

Interesting take on it by Alan Smith in The Telegraph >> click here
The Fear
agree thelergy, you know me, you know my brain ache problems, mylife has gone on and i've made a success of it. However, it is a factor, you know health issues do impact and are worthy of mention?
The Fear
Your situation, JF, is something else (and not at all to be taken lightly by me or anyone). A heart problem though can these days be dealt with pretty effectively and like a bad case of indigestion. I don't think it's a big issue unless he's on heavy medication, which I doubt.
the_lergy
fair point lergy... next time you want any sympathy though, I shall be telling you to take some gaviscon!!!!! (and you know I'm joking!)... Yup, take the point, still age etc does come into it. In some ways = good as more experience but... are we building for the future? I'll support whoever comes in, as I support Villa whatever... but interesting debate as to who is ideal. Some won't be satisfied whoever is chosen, some will just support because it is claret and blue!
The Fear
Age problems? What about that 99 year old who lapped VP on the Vienna Conspiracy night? GH has got another 36 years left at least.
Gordonsleftboot
isn't it awful lergy, you use a word like grooming these days and so many thoughts pop into ones head... or is that just me?!
LOL gordonsleftboot, can't argue with that logic.... also can't really call it logic!
The Fear
:-)) Yeah, well I'm older than GH, Glb, but I can guess what JF means by the age problem.
the_lergy
So Moyes was approached and said no?? That would explain the surge of betting on him last week... Has anyone ever approached Jol? He has clearly stated he wants to come back to England and lets face it we are the biggest and best club he could hope to get as he has had his time at Spurs and Man City plus big 4 would not be interested... We are certainly next in English pecking order.
HH2
"Grooming" gives you thoughts ...?!!! JF, take a seditive!! :-))
the_lergy
The implied points that JF and HH2 make about suitability of the anticipated appointment are very relevant, aren't they? I like GH, but his suitability given the current scenario is going to be a hit-or-miss afair. I wish him, however, all the best if he's coming. I suspect that Jol (as for Hughes) has been bypassed because of the financial compensation that would be incurred, but you would have thought that would also apply to Moyes.
the_lergy
As Alan Smith is saying the problem with these Director of Football & a Coach type things is that the DoF normally wants to be manager and the responsibilities aren't clear. As long as each clearly knows their roles - ie (if it's true about Houllier) Kevin Mac sticks to coaching and team selection, and Houllier sticks to developing the scouting network etc and, this is the important bit, signings are agreed on by both then I see no problem and think it could work well. It can't be that difficult to get two people that get on, know their position and work together - I think it's known as teamwork - but it doesn't often work and doesn't sound like it would at Villa if the reports are true.
lurman
@gordonsleftboot - surely you're kidding right? it'd never work
Zarch
I don't see how KM can be trusted with team selection after what has happened to date. NRC played in the Everton match by accident, and if he hadn't played would we have won? No, I think GH will effectively be given the role of manager.
the_lergy
P.Avfc, I don't agree with you on GH's age/health as being the main issue just now ... but I do concede that having been away from the Prem for awhile it's touch and go as whether his appointment will succeed. I think it might succeed, but it's a close run thing. That we're not getting a current top-notch manager does seem to imply that RL is closely watching his bank balance.
the_lergy
from the outside, I think this could be a good and sensible move for Villa, if the intention is to go with youth over spending big. with the likes of Albrighton, Clarke and Bannan etc, I think you would be making a brave but potentially great long term move for the club.
oxfordspur
He obviously did well with Liverpool and i heard Stevie G make a comment saying how he is a good manager. If u look at the players he bought for liverpool, not many of them worked out, and only a few are actually still in the prem. That worries me abit, especially as he got rid of Friedel and warnock, signing Heskey.lol
AndyFC
 

Have Your Say

Log in...
with your social network     OR     with your Vital account

Recent Aston Villa Articles

Football vs Golf (Wednesday October 1 2014)

The Villa Times - 30/09/2014 (Tuesday September 30 2014)

U21s - Villa 3-0 Bolton (Monday September 29 2014)

Benteke Steps Up His Fitness (Monday September 29 2014)

The Vital Villa Fantasy League Table (Monday September 29 2014)

Lambert Content Following Chelsea Loss (Sunday September 28 2014)

Stats: Chelsea v Aston Villa (Saturday September 27 2014)

Something For The Weekend (467) (Friday September 26 2014)

Archived Aston Villa Articles

List All Vital Villa Articles
Have your say
Click here to suggest an article
Click here to suggest a poll

Vital Members League (view all)

League Results (view all)

League Table (view table)

Team P W D L GD Pts
3. Man City 6 3 2 1 5 11
4. Arsenal 6 2 4 0 4 10
5. Swansea 6 3 1 2 2 10
6. Aston Villa 6 3 1 2 -3 10
7. Man Utd 6 2 2 2 2 8
8. Spurs 6 2 2 2 1 8
9. Crystal Palace 6 2 2 2 0 8

Breaking League News

It`s a Fine Line!
Man Utd : 01/10/2014 19:12:00
Liverpool: FC Basel vs. LFC Team News
Liverpool : 01/10/2014 18:57:00
Cooking Shows?
Man Utd : 01/10/2014 17:14:00
And the Favourite Is?
Man Utd : 01/10/2014 17:08:00
Pardew Still In Charge Of Newcastle For Saturday
Swansea : 01/10/2014 15:07:00

Current Site Poll (view all polls)

If you could only have one of these players renew, which one would it be?
Suggested By:  Ali Arab
Vlaar 8%
Delph 54%
Grealish 38%