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General Krulak On Manager Search & Villa Fan Plea

General Krulak is still batting the questions in the forums and no doubt reading the threads of doom with 'don't get that manager' and 'don't get that one either' !

GK said:

'I am away for 2 days and the Boards get pretty rough.

'First off, we have and are continuing to look at Managers who are currently employed, are outside of the UK, are not outside of the UK and who are not employed. Simple as that.'

This follows on from some saying that Villa are only looking at our of work managers etc. We are all in a tizzy about wanting a new manager but I think some forget so are the board, they thought they HAD a manager and then he left (and so that doesn't start up again... for whatever reason).

GK continues:

'For those who believe that all we need to do is walk into a Manager's office and throw a wad of money at him and he will come with us just have ZERO idea of what it takes. Seriously, as Fans we MUST get our heads into this issue and try to understand it. Things are just NOT that simple.'

'Likewise it makes little sense to me to pick out one or two candidates and run threads on how much we don't want them or how bad they would be for the Club. ANY Manager worth their salt is going to do some due diligence on the Club...and that would probably include reading up on the Fans and the type of support they might receive.'

Whoops... unfortunately that is the nature of the internet and our passion for our clubs I'm afraid, no getting around this will happen. Any sensible manager (and players to be fair) don't go near message boards.

GK added, 'Take Mr. H {Houllier ed} for an example....what ever anyone thinks of him, he deserves respect from the Fans of this Club. He has a fine record with multiple Clubs and deserves better for the amount of effort he has put into his chosen career than to be ridiculed by AVFC....and that is just one person who has been taken apart on the 3 sites I post on. We are bigger than that!! As I have said many times, we can disagree all we want but we should do it respectfully.'

GK also says 'We realize we will not make everyone happy...but we must do what we feel is right under the circumstances....and we will. For those who are striking out at Randy for not spending money...that, too, is crazy. He has more than bought this Club 3 times over...so saying he won't spend money is absurd.'

To be fair, I couldn't agree more. Why put in so much and then stop spending? Do people not realise this would cause his asset (and at the end of the day, that is what it is) would depreciate? And also some say he could sell up and make a tidy profit. Really? You think? I can't see that many oil rich billionaires queuing to invest in the maddest business going!

Anyway...

Following on from that... HH2 posted:

'I for one have not ever doubted the money Mr Lerner has invested. I have defended him to the hilt with MON fans with stats like 'Our wage bill is bigger than Spurs but half the players are completely ignored!'

My main point is that we must still aim for the top. This club is big enough to aim there and is still probably regarded outside and inside the UK as one of the six biggest clubs in the country.

That means we are still a very attractive proposition to the vast majority of manager's out there who are both in employment and out of employment.

I don't want to see Mr Lerner's hard earned dollars that have been invested in Villa now go down the drain which is what will happen if the right appointment is not made. Look what happened at similar big clubs like Newcastle and Leeds with poor manager choices in a very quick matter of time.

Aston Villa fans including myself (32 years season ticket holder) are frightened of that. We have had so many up's and downs over the years. The last 4 in the main have been progressive. No trophies which now dates back to 1996 but good groundwork has been laid down. In fact a better tactician/manager I believe would have delivered you a trophy by now.. Certainly the investment made to date warrants one.

If the right manager is now appointed I really believe the sky is the limit for this football club. There is a good squad there which with better management and a few top class additions along with the constant introduction of home grown young players who are good enough, can still make the holy grail of the top 4.

That's why this appointment is so very crucial... We are at such a crossroads.

We have been here before. Champions of Europe, 1982... Lost the manager that got us there, followed up with second rate appointments and were relegated within 3 years!

Won our last trophy in 1996, having also finished 4th and got to semi final of FA cup. At that point well ahead of Arsenal as a football club. They then appointed Wenger, we appointed Gregory and the clubs started going in opposite directions.

Both times at these important crossroads we appointed cheap options for the most important job in any football club and paid the price. You could also add the time we appointed Venglos in 1990 having just finished runners up to Liverpool under Taylor. We went from finishing 2nd to almost getting relegated within a season!

Mr Lerner and his board have started to close the gap again but in order to keep closing the gap its imperative the best is appointed. I am not naive enough sir to think it just takes money.

Ambition, Vision, Passion and Belief in your Football club are what is required to entice the best.

We have entrusted the board of Aston Villa to do exactly that. We all share in the sincere hope you get it right and understand how difficult a job it is. However I for one have every faith the very best option open will be taken to drive this club upwards and onwards!'




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The Journalist

Writer: GK and HH2 + Feario! Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Friday September 3 2010

Time: 5:40PM

Your Comments

Totally agree, crucial decision, totally at a crossroads. I would HATE the decision, thank goodness others are in there doing it !
The Fear
Don't think anyone is arguing that Lerner has not spent money but it does appear as though the money has dried up of late. Lets not forget we haven't spent money on a player for just over a year. Until we spend again, people are going to think that whether Mr Lerner or General Krulak like that or not. A January with no signings will add to that!!
young_jonah
Right now I want the money spent on the manager... If it costs X million to get someone out of a club and he really wants the job after being told by the board the future plans and the budgets to get us competing at the top then I would want the money spent to make it happen because its my opinion that this "signing" is by far the most important we are likely to make in a long time.
HH2
HH2 - You are so wrong about Leeds it wasn't DOL's fault they went down the pan it was the Chairman Ridsdale renting fish tanks for 5 grand a pop & mortgaging the stadium and selling 20 year season tickets to finance his madness.
Reo-Coker is crap
Nice piece HH2, from the heart.
tellamuir
How do i change my username...I've made my point?
Reo-Coker is crap
email sent to you reo-coker is(n't) crap... or if you don't get it, email me at astonvilla@vitalfootball.co.uk
The Fear
To the artist formerly known as "Reo Coker is crap"- I actually meant the managers that followed DOL (Not that I am DOL's biggest fan). I believe it was Reid that got them relegated but for sure Risdale was a lunatic and DOL played his part.... Any decent bloke would have surely questioned the maths at some point!! George Graham did the vast majority of good ground work there... No one mentions him anymore...
HH2
Gerry Hitchens Goal Machine...proving i'm no Blue nose!!!
Reo-Coker is crap
i would love mr h at villa.
lerneravfc
so errr... anyone think that the general seems a bit wound up? "this club" ??
simonbigron
My respect for the General grows everyday. Gotta give it to the bloke who's prepared to lay it all down and just tell some fans to shut the F**k up. The haters out there really need to tone it down with the manager talk.
Zarch
Excellent response from HH2. Excellent, excellent.
the_lergy
I would love to have Miss H at Villa, maybe in an executive box!
RiF
General, if this is one of the boards you post at, then I hope you read this. I’m a regular poster at Damian Dugdale’s blog – The Villablog – and would have been delighted, as would many others, to read your thoughts on Aston Villa on that site. This (vital football) is a wonderful blog and, to be honest, probably a little less cynical and more positive than the Villablog (for which I commend it), but, for whatever reason, the Villablog carries the most traffic and your presence occasionally would be greatly appreciated. It can be a tad hostile on there, but I can’t believe, General, that you’re intimidated by mere words, I do take your point that we posters should be careful not to give offence to people who hold positions, or might potentially do so, at VP. But fans feel passionately about their club and sometimes the heart rules the head. Please drop by and say hi. Semper Fi, soldier. Duty calls
churchill
carries the most traffic? hmmm, never sure of the stats that some come out with. Much of mine is within the entire network (mainly because the entire network is mine... + another partners) last month we had 1.7m uniques across the board. Think GK posts on the three longest serving and known sites imho. More than happy for anything GK says from here (in the forum) to be used elsewhere to be honest, including these 'articles' that I do rounding up the talk. On reach I'd back this site against any though. :o) Not spoken with Damian for yonks!
The Fear
Houlliers experience is just what we need add that to KMacs knowledge of our youth and reserves and they compliment each other. Houllier's knowledge of young players worldwide and in europe especially france is very very good and i think this is why lerner likes him so much. I think this is a great move for villa. If he isnt manager then id like to see him in a role with the board such as 'director' and have Kmac assistant or first team coach. We could then afford to bring in a young manager from the championship which many have suggested because he would have Kmac and houllier behind him. But id probably stick with just KMac and Houllier but its a decent thought.
P.Avfc
Thanks for the response, Fear. If I've got my facts wrong, then I apologise. I was just going on the amount of comments - which, perhaps, is not the best metric. Thanks, also, for permission to quote your work (you can be sure I'll nick the best stuff and pass it off as my own). I had already reposted some of the above at Damo's - fully attributed, of course. Do you ever allow guests to do an article under the headline?
churchill
Churchill, don't recommend that site mate. Whilst it might question things, that's all it does, imo. Surely true fans see some positives? and yes, I question if he's a real Villa fan mate.
badger0-0
Firsrt off Damian Dugdale banned me for questioning his ludicrous, attention seeking posturing - so if you like talk sport in blog form, that is the blog for you. Secondly, Gerard Houllier would destroy this football club. Make no mistake about that. The man is off his head.
Pancho Villan
Villa 4 ever - Houllier wasted near £100 million during his time at liverpool on ridiculous signings that nearly all flopped including the one and only bruno cheyrou, hes the next zidane dont you know.
goodb_2
Ronald Koeman to partner Kevin McDonald at Villa. A Ronald-McDonald combination.
jolf
Badger, Pancho, I agree he can be depressingly negative. I had a proper pop at him yesterday for slagging off Lerner and Krulak for absolutely no reason. I'm not recommending the site, I just wish GK would pop his head round the door occasionally. I think it's going to be Houllier and I'm pleased. He's a class act. MacDonald is not ready.
churchill
When GK reveals feedback to RL, us villa fans must sound so ungrateful, tlking about not spending money, after everything he has done for Villa
AndyFC
Pancho, you've been banned too? I'm amazed. How sad, that if you disagree with Damian too much, you get banned. Says it all I guess.
badger0-0
I agree with goodb_2, Houllier is not the man. He had an awful eye for a player at LFC and I hope it isn't him. Saying that, maybe just maybe be might turn out to be okay snd surprise us all. Still think that we can do better than someone whose arse was hit by the door on the way out of Liverpool.
koolbill
Ok o houllier didnt seem to have bought talant very well, but in saying that didnt Liverpool win the treble in one season under him? well we just lost MON who waisted 100million on Sidwell, Davies, Beye, etc yet we have no trophies in the cabinet to show for it ! also when houllier left Pool they recouped a lot of that money back or as good as, where MON signings mm i doubt we will see half the amount back. I personally believe its crucial to bring in a foreign Knowlegable Scout, Manager etc like Houllier as we just aint been able to get top foreign talant in hewill help with that
ClivetheVillan
Predictive text on iPhone + a dodgy browser, I'm sorry. When we gonna get a vital football app???
Astonvillionaire
badger0-0: demanding an apology from the Villa players after a dodgy defeat to Man Utd in the cup final, was the final straw for me.
Pancho Villan
Hi Churchill, no apology needed mate, I'm sure his site is busy as well, never really one for who is bigger than who (ahem...!) etc!

Always happy to take other contributions mate, do it regularly, just email astonvilla@vitalfootball.co.uk or use the 'suggest an article' on the right hand menu.

Agree heathfieldroad1874, spoke with Merlin from Vital Chelsea, they had to let 10 players go this summer to bring wages under control. All clubs are in the same boat, just got to look at how useless the transfer window was for most clubs to see that!

If we can, would be good not to over talk re: other eds on other sites lads. You are of course very welcome here as long as you agree with me, or at least agree I'm the very bestest looking baldie website ed going (laughing emoticon inserted here!)
The Fear
If Martin Jol is remotely available.... Pls put the Houllier/Mac plan on hold and at least go talk to him. He is in my humble opinion best man for job. Proven in Prem, proven in Europe. Good eye for a player (Lennon, Bale, Berbatov) and lovely style of football.
HH2
I agree that Martin Jol is a great manager but I don't think we have any chance of getting him as why would he give up champions league football to come to us. If we give who ever is the new manager our full backing and things don't work out over the next year or two then managers like Jol will be out of contract and we will have a better chance of getting them. Every great managers starts somewhere. lets hope ours starts here! As already said we need Loyalty to bring stability and with managers like Jol he may do well but he may also not stick around for long and we have this all over again.
revua
Hiddink is my favourite but as he is from august 1st the manager of Turkey I really think that wont happen
Per A
 

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