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AVFC - What Happened To Our 4-5-1?

What do we have to do to realise 4-5-1 works for Villa?

Oh dear…. Another poor performance we all cry. Actually, I thought we were average last night (which should be enough to see off the likes of rapid Vienna), but were let down by a couple of individual standout performances. I say standout because they stood out as being very very poor in relation to the team. I'll not dwell too long on last nights game though because this topic is to bang the drum again that almost every sane villa fan has been saying for the last couple of seasons: we need 4-5-1.

I actually believe the tactics were an improvement last night, but the team selection was woeful.
I say an improvement, because to address how lightweight we looked in midfield, he introduced NRC in on the right (I noticed he was operating more on the centre right), and told Ireland to come a bit deeper, and indeed, there was actually hardly any threat that came from the middle last night despite what some are saying. Their goals came from the wings - more specifically the left wing that should have been covered by Habib Beye. This brings me to the team selection.

I must confess I don`t really rate Beye at the best of times, but playing him on the left had us exposed time & time again. He was caught out of position several times, he lost the ball several times, he gave the ball away several times… it's been some time since I've seen such an inept performance quite frankly. Then Davis at centre back who is usually a lot more solid than that showed why he is currently our 4th choice - several shoddy attempted clearances, and the 'passback slice' that gave away the needless corner that led to the 2nd goal undid what was overall a reasonable performance, and should have been enough to win the match. Oh, and Heskey…. Need I say more? I think we've found the only way we can actually get him to score - kick the ball hard at him and hope it bounces into the net!

Anyway, back on topic…. 4-5-1 - why would it work? For me, because our wingers usually hug the touchline, this leaves a 2-man midfield with a lot of hard graft to do, and unless it's 2 very hardworking players (NRC / Milner as was), we get overrun far too easily. I'd play Petrov/NRC/Ireland in a 3-man midfield, and Young/Albrighton as wide players. Then either Gabby(away), or Carew(home) as the front man. I'd also tell young/Albrighton to take the fullback on and shoot more, as we'd be more dependant on our striker getting into the box.

Hey, at the end of the day, we tried this, and it worked in the past!!!

Lastly, lets all get behind the lads - UTV

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Date:Friday August 27 2010
Time: 4:50PM


Yeah agree, Ireland and petrov get outrun in the middle together we need a 3 man midfield definately, I would like to see either 4231, 433 well basically its all 451 depends how you put it. You could have 2 holding midfielders with an AM, 2 wingers and a striker or go like chelsea with 1 holding and 2 which help back and attack. I dont want to ramble on but ill just say that it doesnt matter really as long as we get that 3 man midfield and ireland in his favoured more advanced role, he is playing way too deep at the moment. What formation did we play last night? It started to me as like a 433 like how chelsea play with 3 forwards but it just turned into well i havn't gotta clue. Anyone know?
27/08/2010 17:06:00
Completely agree. NRC must start games as we are continually sliced open currently by average teams. I shudder to think what teams like Arsenal would do to us currently! Diarra would be my ideal anchor man but in the absence of such a player NRC has to play as Petrov just can't cope without him.
27/08/2010 17:11:00
Not sure that I would be too chuffed if I was Gabby. Work my nuts off when we play away from home, whilst Mr. Lay Zee Barstard chills out in a t1tty bar. When at home Mr Barstard lords it in front of the fans that "love him". Whilst Gabby freezes his spuds off on the bench. Then again Gabby has never struck me as the deepest of thinkers.
27/08/2010 20:18:00
completely agree. You can't expose petrov and ireland to an offensive press by the opposition because they are not quick enough. Why I believe we need a defensive midfielder with a bit of pace and lots of energy. Although milner was labelled an attacking midfielder his defensive pressure was great. NRC maybe needs time to develop but IMO we need a replacement for milner in that midfield hole
28/08/2010 08:20:00
The thing is even if carew was fit he's not going to get 20 a season he just can't be arsed he'd prob get 15 or so all competions. So even if we couldn't buy a world class forward surely we could get someone who actually moves, brings players into play and works hard without breaking the bank and scores about the same as carew. This would probabably mean other players would score more.The amount of times a move breaks down when it comes to him is unbelievable. If nothing else he's had enough chances and we need to freshen things in the front line.
28/08/2010 11:35:00
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