Guzan To Grab Europa With Both Hands

Yet it's almost a whole post saying how bad our fans are? Ignore those who make ridiculous comments that are wholly without merit - they won't last long, and then remember those who levy criticism on a website are entitled to their opinions. And love it loathe it, Liverpool have a bigger fanbase - deal with it, pretty pathetic to attack your fellow fans who no doubt won't be attending because of work, or other commitments. I envy fans who can go every week, rain or shine, not worry about the bank balance and dictate what prices are affordable for everybody else...but most of them don't take every opportunity to try and imply they are better than those who can't go.

Coincidently if we are making baseless and pointless assumptions to suit our own standpoints, surely if the Vienna fans outsing the Villa fans, that's more to do with the fans that are there who will still out number them?

And the push for unreachable perfection that you desire irrespective of people's real life situation doesn't make a mockery of our club? The facts are we've been a mediocre club for the best part of over a decade, attendances have bounced depending on our good seasons under Ellis and then dropped under the bad. There's been a rough overall improvement in the last 4 years - first two especially, but the type of football served up for the last 2 years, the issues with Monny and now the concern over where do we go now etc have seen a lot of people drop off/and others come back, who were regulars. Add into that the economy, which I also know you dismiss from previous posts sees our attendance fluctuate depending on the type of opposition.

You call it mediocrity etc, I simply see it as a dose of realism.

You say Real Madrid in town, or a Man Utd etc yeah of course we'd fill. Those who pick and choose games because of money would rather see Utd or Madrid compared to the likes of Bolton etc. Equally the prawn and corporate bunch would be out in force simply because of the opposition. Why is that so hard to understand? For those who pick and choose, they'll do their best to pick and choose a game they will be excited to watch, something to live in their memory etc as opposed to the risk of a bore draw and humpalot like a game against Bolton or the lower category clubs. It's not a new invention, and I guess a large majority of fans have had to do just that at some point in their lives as they do their best to balance real life with Villa life.

You'd also find aswell that for those that simply can't afford it they wouldn't be there even for the big games, they'd just feel guilty about missing it more than normal. Same would go for those who are working and couldn't take a holiday for it.

Real fans who watch regardless of the opposition have the money and the desire to, that's the bottom line. Nobody is less of a fan because their financials don't allow them to do that, regardless of how often you claim those 'excuses' would disappear if Real Madrid fell into town. They wouldn't and until you get your head around that, and realise a good majority of fans probably dodge a bill to go once a month because it's the best they can do and still leaves them struggling, rather than being bitched at by a superior attitude for not going for the other 3 weeks, maybe a bit of praise would be due to them for making a sacrifice you clearly have no notion of.

I honestly think you've generalised the whole prawn bunch who will only go for Utd, Liverpool etc - the love of Villa comes out 2-3 times a season and then goes back in the closet for 12 months, and now seem to think that applies to absolutely everybody else regardless of real life. If that's me accepting mediocrity so be it, would rather you think that wrongly rather than share your viewpoint of dismissing and being condescending to a large number of my fellow fans.

Afterall by your standard somebody who's been a season ticket holder for a decade, but can no longer afford to go every game and starts picking and choosing has suddenly become a mediocre fan who is now holding the club back, and is worth much less to the club/and cares less about the club than a first time new season ticket holder who got the bug after going to 6 games the previous years.