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Man City to Make 'Take it or Leave it' Milner Bid

Many of the papers have picked up on Martin O'Neill's comments yesterday about James Milner wanting out and are reporting Roberto Mancini will make what they are describing as a 'Take it or Leave it' bid of 24million.

Martin O'Neill said: 'There is a difference in valuation and a question mark over the player but I'm sure things will get resolved one way or the other in the near future.

'I had a chat with James before the World Cup and he initimated he would like to go.

'I haven't spoken to him since. I know there have been conversations with his agent and our chief executive.

'Manchester City have made an offer for the player. The valuation has not been reached at this minute.

'James is due back next week after an extended stay after the World Cup.'

The sticking point seems to be the fee now, as it appears he wants out and Man City want him.

However, we all remember what happened when Liverpool played hardball with us over Gareth Barry's valuation just 2 summers ago.

The bid is an improvement on the rejected offer of 20million before the World Cup but still seems to fall short of our 30million valuation.

O'Neill will have to take into account how much less Milner will be worth next summer plus the prospect of having an unhappy player in the squad if he rejects the bid.

So our new poll puts you in the shoes of Martin O'Neill - if this is to be the final offer, (and bearing in mind Milner wants to go) should we accept the offer or try to hold out for more and run the risk of having an unhappy player and making less money next summer anyway?

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Writer: Dan Jones  Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Friday July 23 2010

Time: 11:57AM

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have to say that I rate Milner, but surely this has to depend on how much money MON has to spend without this money. I keep hearing from The Fear and othher Villa fans that there is plenty available to MON, but I think that being able to bring four or five players would compensate very well the loss of Milner as good a player as he is.
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23/07/2010 12:02:00

'There is a difference in valuation and a question mark over the player but I'm sure things will get resolved one way or the other in the near future.' - So this means we have our valuationa and if Man City's offer comes up short then we will negotiate including 1 of their players in the deal, most likely Nedam Onouha. I think Villa have to look at it now and we get an offer close to our Valuation then we have to take it. Receiving 25M-30M for Milner would allow us to strengthen the depth of our squad further. (E.g. Keane 7.5M, Bentley 8.5M, Onouha 4M and McGeady 8M)
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23/07/2010 12:15:00

oxfordspur, our manager himself said yesterday that we are in a position where we have to sell to buy. If Milner doesn't leave, we will have the same squad next season as this one just past - perhaps with one, maybe two, in (and we're not talking about quality additions either), and a couple out. Perhaps. And that means we will really struggle to finish in the top six, and might even be under pressure from a club like Sunderland, who have money to spend. Selling Milner enables us to rebuild and restrengthen, and as such is the best move for the club, even if City's final offer is well short of our valuation (which would appear to be ridiculously inflated). The problem is that the guy spending the money is a guy called Martin O'Neill, who doesn't have a great track record in thetransfer market.
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23/07/2010 12:25:00

It won`t be a take it or leave it offer,thats newspaper *****e,they will negotiate until it gets sorted.Personally i think 20 million is to much for milner,so if we were to get 25 we should take it.I would be happy with a straight swap for stephen ireland.
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23/07/2010 12:26:00

Lerneravfc, Milner is in form Ireland hasn't hardly played, Yes Ireland is a very good player and i reckon he might actually do a better job in the Centre, but Ireland is valued at 10m, we paid 12m for Milner, they need him to add to their home grown list of players who will start so many games, so he is more valuable to them than you think.
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23/07/2010 12:34:00

When did Doug Ellis take back over?
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23/07/2010 13:01:00

Much as I like and rate Milner, he has to be offloaded for Mart to have cash to set about reshaping this Villa team. I think that it has been obvious to most that either Ash or Milly had to be sacrificed, otherwise we would no doubt have seen out this particular transfer without making any signings of note. You believe what you want to believe I guess, and I'm of the opinion that cash for team strengthening is very tight, for a number of reasons, and Mart has to ship out players first before he can even think of rebuilding. There are arguments on both sides as to whether we should accept 24m whatever, or hold out for the reported 30m figure we are supposedly looking for, but I'm going to go with the former. Mart needs cash in hand to bring new faces in and quickly, we cant afford to sit about twiddling our thumbs any longer. In the long term though, the club needs fresh investment, otherwise the very same scenario will be repeated next summer.
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23/07/2010 13:13:00

Not certain the accusation of unsettling Milner is entirely accurate. After all, we followed the proper channels by making an official bid which you rejected. Unsettling is a word I'd apply to making unsolicited or illegal approaches to the player, which we have not done. I'm a bit mystified by MON's statements regarding Milner. Don't want to get into semantics, but suggesting Milner "Intimated" is a long way short of saying he pulled his trousers down and took a dump on the manager's desk in order to force a move. Curious that he shoud paint himself into a corner in this way, as it now looks as though it will be impossible for Milner to remain at Villa Park, yet what happens in the event that we don't match your valuation? As Bluedub pointed out, we are not desparate for Milner - a fine addition if he does come, but not absolutely critical to our plans, and as much as managers like to get any new players integrated into their squads as quickly as possible, I suspect this may drag on for a fair while longer. Not an ideal situation for either club, I'm sure you'll admit. I just hope this doesn't decend into the same acrimonious spat as our pursuit of Lescott last season. Fortunately MON is a far more canny person than Gollum Moyes and Mancini far less stubborn than Hughes!
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23/07/2010 16:21:00

FCB, i tend to agree with you to a point, but there are many ways to look at his, as we all know MoN is a very canny person and is from the old school of clough, so if its a pit of wits i'd back MoN, as he never seems to back down, and as the GB saga showed he will do so even if it mean selling next year at a loss, with his comments i think its got to the point where he feels he's being messed around either by City or by Milner(his agent) and by doing so has now put the ball in Milners and citys court and said if you want him you know the price pay it or no sale, myself i think he will go for around 25 million or maybe 20 million and a player. but i also think he's right to do as he has. lets say Milner has said he doesnt want to sign a new contract and wants to leave, then why hasnt he handed in a transfer request and waivered his loyality bonus. but as has already been said i think when he moves to city you are getting a very good player that is going to get better if played, and having read a lot from city fans the doubters will be suprised, as Jimmy is one of them players that doesnt make you get of your seat but when he's wearing your team colours you see why everyone raves about him. anyway i cant see this lasting much longer and think both team will agree a deal that suits both. also if say for arguements sake Tevez came out and said he wanted to leave and real madrid offered 30 million, do you think city would take it, i can bet you they wouldnt as they hold his registration just as we do to milner, yes we could end up with an unhappy player but that would also work against JM, as MoN is stubborn enough to just bench him for the next 2 season and then lets see how his career ends up. anyway good luck city for next year i really do hope you win the league and break up the SKY4 cartel, and in doing so we may slip under the radar and nick 4th place from 1 off them :-)
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23/07/2010 17:49:00

The Milner thing doesn't bother me too much, City will move upwards, Villa will move downwards - standard negotiation. What's more worrying for me is that we seem to be reliant on the Milner money to actually buy anyone which seems to lend truth to the sell to buy policy.
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23/07/2010 19:22:00

Tottenham are rumoured to be interested in Ashley Young now - if Villa need to sell before they buy, I would imagine Young would be in a similar price category to Milner. Just out of interest, if it came down to a straight choice between Milner or Young, who would the Villa fans rather see leave?
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24/07/2010 13:27:00

FCB, I'd let Milner go over young every time. Milner has nothing really special about him apart from an engine and a good attitude. Young has bags of skill and an ability to beat a defender like not many else in the game. It's much harder and will cost teams a lot more to find a good winger rather than a CM with an engine. Even though Young was useless last season, i feel he has tons more potential than Milner, who i think has reached his peak. Fair enough it's a good peak, but on a good day, i just think Ash is better than Milly. And i think Ash would win us more games than Milly would. Although, i'd rather just keep them both and hope for the best!
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