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Why So Many Potential Villa Sales?

astvil123 asks 'Why so many potential sales?'

Surely now that we have finished 6th for the past 3 seasons we should be looking to bolster what we already have in the squad. However it looks as though a lot of players will be leaving the club this summer; but should all of them really be leaving?

To free up some room on the wage bill we should be looking to ship out the dead wood such as Salifou, Harewood, Beye, Marshall and Heskey. But there are a few players who have been dead certain to move on this summer, but shouldn't we be looking to keep them?

Nicky Shorey was going to leave us this summer, but now Bouma has left leaving us with just Shorey and Warnock as our left back options. Surely this could mean how important it is to keep Shorey at the Villa. When he played for us he always played well, good at getting forward supporting the winger and has a good cross on him. We would only get 2M-3M for him. This makes you wonder, why should we sell him?

The same goes for Luke Young, one of the most unfortunate players at Villa this season. Extremely impressive in the right back position when called upon yet kept out of the team by an out of position Carlos Cuellar. Yet he was and still remains our best full back and surely would have played more games if it wasn't for the success of the clubs defense. I think the majority would rather Luke stay rather than receive 3M for him.

Nigel Reo-Coker and Steve Sidwell. These 2 players are impressive on their day, however I don't think it is just a coincidence that both players have there better games in a 4-5-1 formation. Surely we will see this formation more next year after all of the success we had using this system with Gabby as the lone striker? (I Hope) Sidwell was impressive and consistent in the midfield alongside Gareth Barry and Stan Petrov. The same can be said for Reo-Coker when he is called upon against the big sides when we beef up the midfield. Surely these 2 players, despite being in the final year of their contracts should not be sold.

We have a squad at present capable of a top 6 finish at least, a squad that was contesting the final Champions League place on the final weekend of the season; why tear apart the squad and rebuild it now?

We should be looking to add to the squad, not sell our current fringe stars who can do a job for us.

And Curtis Davies, unlucky with injuries, but there is no way we should be selling him! If we do then MON should be shot on sight! A future England international. If we sold him then it will be a big Deja Vu! (Gary Cahill) With money from a few sales, Craig Gardner's sale to Brum, a few of Randy's millions and the 11.5M from prize money for finishing 6th in the league, surely that is enough cash to add 2 or 3 quality additions to the squad we now have and push on next year. The question is though, should we really be looking to sell Reo-Coker, Sidwell, Shorey, Young and Davies?

I wouldn't.




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Writer: astvil123 Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday June 8 2010

Time: 8:00AM

Your Comments

just natural wastage I think. Can't second guess MON on Shorey (who I liked) or Luke Young (who I think most of us loved?) + I'd have had NRC in the team more but the boss is the boss, he obviously has his reasons and will live and die by his decisions. I'd get shot of the other fringe players including Sidwell but would certainly keep NRC and Young, I'd also keep Shorey but plenty here will tell you he was rubbish, so what do I know!?
The Fear
Most of the ones wanting to leave either aren't good enough or they have spoken out of turn to him who must be obeyed
villan57
Nige has taken the stance that he is willing to let his contract run down for a big pay day at another club, so he can ***** off. Agree about Sidwell in a 3 man midfield and the fact that it should be used more. Heskey almost plays that role for us anyway. As you say ant1, none of the above want to sit on the bench for another season.
Villan444
Davies has got to stay and I totally agree with ASTVIL123 on that point. Would be excellent if Young stayed too. Shorey always look unhappy, just like Nigel. I don't envisage NRC is good for the dressing room. I would get shot of him in an instant for that reason. I've always liked Sidwell and it is sad he hasn't made the cut against the lovies like Petrov. Realistically Beye was bought because MON didnt believe another CD was on the market and then came up trumps with Dunne, so Beye can go. So can Salifou, a heated blanked would offer better bench warming and cost less to run! Heskey bye, but only if Carew stays and only if we buy another striker. But we do need to trim and then replace with quality will evenly split playing time as much as possible.
koolbill
Harry is "reportedly" trying to sign Agbonlahor for 22
Irish Blue
We need to sell to buy, because O'Neill has spent all the money. We also have a fair few unhappy players, and unhappy players end up getting sold if they can't/won't be made happy. Finally, you could probably make a case for a dozen players who, for one reason or another, might think they were better off somewhere else, either because Villa aren't 'big' enough, because they aren't getting on the pitch, or because they are playing out of position.
Albarnista
I would let Sidwell go - he's pony. As for Reo Coker- whats the point??! Get rid of him too and find a player who can challenge (not moan) his way to a starting place. I agree about Shorey/Young.
leelindsay
So many sales --- is it realy that many? - fringe/squad players on way out, as well as improving the squad - think it seems about reasonable -- bearing in mind its silly season as well, so be unlikely that we get rid of as many as the papers reckon.....
victort
This is a big issue for M'ON and is at the root cause of some of the concerns of Villa supporters. Okey Cokey, Curtis Davis, Luke Young, Shorey, Beye, Sidwell, Harewood and Salifou have cost the club 40m in transfer fees. The wages for these players is likely to be around 300K per week. The transfer fee and wages of these players over the course of their contracts is around 100m. The probable return is in the region of 20M in transfer fees and a saving off the wage bill. The question to be asked is could M'ON have done better with that 100M? Personally I think the signings in the main were good ones. I don't think we needed Beye and Salifou was a gamble. Sometimes they work and sometimes they do not. This is no different for any manager. However the problem has been his ability to utilise all of his players and keep them happpy, whilst at the same time keeping the squad fresh and happy. Our four centre halfs should have been used as centre halfs and used accordingly to keep them all on top of their game and injury free. Dunne carried an injury for the last month of the season. It is madness that he wasn't rested for a couple of weeks with either Cuellar or Davies covering the role. Young should have been right back. Simple as!! Petrov struggled with injury all through March and April, Okey Cokey should have been simply been used as a direct replacement. After all he was back from injury, fresh and raring to go. He would have been a major boost at the tired end of the season. Despite all the relative success of the season, it is these nagging problems that still means M'ON has yet to convince many that he can push us on to the very top level. I believe he can. Saunders took 7 years. He built a team, dismantled it and built it again. He purchased journey men and unsung heroes. He built a team without stars, but who all worked together. Even through rose tinted spectacles, we were not the most attractive team to watch. But we were very efficient. M'ON will rebuild the Villa, provided he is not hounded out first. Possibly not as everyone would like, but he will do it. He must though, take control of this player situation as every penny is going to count in the future.
voiceoftheholte
Sod it, get rid of them. If last season is anything to go by, we may as well get rid of them as they won''t play anyway. Stick the kids on the bench and give them the chance to possibly experience Premier League football. The only 1 I'm not sure about is Luke Young, but he wants to play so let him leave. A couple of big signings (someone who can dictate the pace of the game in Midfield as well as finding that killer ball, and a striker who can come deep, lay the ball off, drift out wide, has a good touch and can get some goals IMO) and we'll have some experienced quality pro's to call on as well. I'm not a big believer in the whole squad rotation thing, but it's good to have these players available so it pushes the first team to improve in the knowledge they may lose their place.
Francobaresi13
Some very good points voiceoftheholte. I think the only thing we'd disagree on is O'Neill's ability as a manager. But I'd pick you up on one thing you said. Suggesting that O'Neill could be hounded out is a little odd. He's well liked, if not loved, by the majority of Villa fans. Of course there are those of us who have a different view, but we are a minority, albeit a vocal one. The only way the Villa fans will turn on O'Neill is if our league position slips appreciably, and although this could conceivably happen, I'm not sure it would do so this season. What is far more likely is that O'Neill will leave of his own accord. I don't think he's nearly as smart as many give him credit for, and I wouldn't put it past him to go to Liverpool, a great club in a great big crisis. Neither would I put it past Liverpool to appoint him.
Albarnista
 

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