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Glensider - Positives Outweight Negatives At Villa


MON has his positives, he has his failings.

Each and every one of us has an opinion on where he scores, and where he doesn't. He manages a club/team his way, and I don't think that trait in him, is ever going to change. Well, I know it ain't.

Do the positives outweigh the negatives? I personally believe they do, but I too share the questions, the concerns, and the frustrations of fellow Villans who believe that the club needs to take a fresh route.

Certain things absolutely have to change before this club can take the next step, and move on to the next level. Sadly some of those things wont change under the current regime, owners/manager.

We are now an established top six club in the top flight, three successive sixth place finishes confirms that.

Its been many a year since we've shown such consistency, so in itself, that to me suggests we are club very much heading in the right direction.

Do I want us to break into the top four, win the premier league title, lift domestic and European cups again? Well of course I do, show me a Villan who doesn't. However, without a huge injection of cash, it ain't gonna happen.

Its not a level playing field anymore, we all know that. Manchester City will spend big this summer, and next season they'll join the top four group, no question.

Chelsea and Manchester United can and will find the cash when they need it, and if Liverpool get their act back together, find a cash strapped owner, then you'd better believe that they'll be back in business with a vengeance.

Spurs have to spend big and increase their quality too if they want regular Champions League football. They wont have a better opportunity to do just that, than during this summer.

Its all about money now. Its not like the '80's when Ron Saunders went out and splashed five hundred thousand quid on a centre-forward from second division Newcastle United, who turned us from a decent outfit, but one that couldn't score anywhere near enough goals, into League Champions and ultimately European Cup winners.

How I wish that one such signing could transform the current squad into European champions, champions of England even, if only it were that simple.

We are in my opinion at least four quality players short of being serious contenders for a top four premier league finish. Sadly, I don't think we have the means to bring those four players to Brummagem B6.

I've enjoyed this past season, I must admit, its been more enjoyable than most I've experienced down the years. Admittedly though, most of the season's highlights have happened away from Villa Park, so if I were a fan who didn't travel away from home, then yes, I'd be both pissed and concerned at some of the stuff that's been served up. My view might be different.

Right now I'm more than happy for Mart to get another twelve months (at least) to see whether he can make anymore inroads into the establishment.

My opinion though will change in a flash should our better players, Ash and Milly in particular, be allowed to move on during this window. We should be keeping our talent, building on it. Its the clubs future.

Once we start messing with that, then I'm certain I'll be joining the ranks of the extremely unhappy.

Up The Villa. And I still say that neither Tony Hateley or Bruce Rioch should have been sold!!

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Writer: glensider Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Thursday May 13 2010

Time: 6:03PM

Your Comments

nicely put glensider sir!
The Fear
The Bruce Rioch sale - that was devastating. I couldn't understand how he could possibly have sought greener pastures when he had been such a key part of the mission to rescue the club from third division obscurity and terminal decline. Of course he went on to win a champions league medal with Derby but that still didn't seem to justify his departure - the Villa cause was far bigger to my teenage mind.
JimmyG
You're showing your age ant1ant1 - most people on here weren't born when we had one of those.
pongo wearing
As per usual this man speaks sense, take note all you youngsters.
roehe
Personally i was very disappointed we didn't get 4th place but that's mainly because i got sucked into the all the Champions League drama . I usually think that this is going to be our year every year and i am usually disappointed , so this year hopefully i won't set my hopes too high then i might be able to enjoy it more .. but that's not gonna happen if we sign a couple of good players my ambitions will go through the roof .. this time next year i will be either be ecstatic or morose .. whatever way it goes i hope we see as many games as we did this season .
Doug4ever
100 % agree
lost_in_ca
Would take 25m for young to improve squad! Not milner though!
deano.avfc
Here's a little positive spin I've just noticed. Three seasons ago we finished 6th - 16 points behind 4th position. Last season we finished 6th again however this time we were only 10 points behind 4th place. This season, for the third season in a row we finished 6th only this time we were only 6 points behind that elusive 4th place. We are getting closer. Next year.... Maybe, just maybe....!
Adam Deuce
Very interesting facts that you've enlightened us with there Adam Deuce. I'm certainly glad that you brought that information to our attention. There are plenty of positives bouncing around out there, positives that have obviously not been lost upon the Villa Park hierarchy, even though the doom mongers amongst us might choose to ignore them.
glensider
Good article glensider i always seem to agree with what you say!!
astonsteve
An excellent article Kev, and I agree with a lot that you say. I hate this posi-negi thing that is now used to describe villa fans. We have probably never had so much to be positive about at the villa than we do now. Randy and the board have worked miracles in a very short time and I can only see that getter better down the road. However, as I have often said in the forums, to me it all boils down to one thing...Is MON the man to take us to 4th place and beyond? Some believe he is, others don't. I personally don't but if he proves me wrong this year I will happily, if not ecstatically run round villa park naked after the last game of the season.
jonah
getter better?...you know what I meant!
jonah
Where ever weighing up the for's or against I always remember saying "I hope people dont start remembering the Ellis days with Rose Tinted Specs" We are 1000 miles away from where we were. In all honesty until we start returning to the **** pile that is bottom half of the table we should remain happy.
col8
I agree 100% glensider, maybe the main reason ive been such an optimist this season is due to me having travelled to most of the away games and seen us win a lot, seeing us beat liverpool and united etc.If all you have seen is the home games this year and we havent played great at home for a few games this season i can understand people frustrations. What we find now as a top 6 club is that the majority of teams are happy to come to VP and play for a draw, we currently lack a few players that are able to open teams up at VP and create something from nothing, teams are doubling up on our wingers and cancelling us out. I think a top striker and extra flair in centre mid and we'll be winning the majority of our home games again.
pauled177
Good article as always GS. And Albarnista for the first time I can remember, I agree almost entirely with one of your posts. It wasn't done in a way to slag off M'ON (a welcome change) but it made a very valid point and one that I have been saying for years. As a club we cannot compete financially with ManCity, Chelsea, Manure. As fans we are not an attractive bunch to play in front of (we are too quick to moan and boo and struggle to fill our stadium). This combination makes it very difficult to attract the players that some unrealistic fans demand. To prosper we need to keep finding the Platts, Yorkes, Cowans of the world. We are not in a position to outbid anybody for proven talent. I would like Bent at VP, but the time to buy him was when Charlton first stepped in for 3/4m and he scored 20+ goals in a struggling team. There are many players who have been 'discovered' only for their value to escalate. Discovering is the way forward, not outbidding. Taking other clubs on financially, who are a more attractive proposition than us is the way to ruin. Ask Leeds, Newcastle, Sheffield Wednesday, Southampton etc.
voiceoftheholte
The thought of jonah running 'happily, if not ecstatically round Villa Park naked after the last game of the season', is just another reason that the 2010-11 campaign promises to be such an interesting and entertaining season. The very thought is surely just one more reason that Villans should seriously consider purchasing a season ticket, just in case this memorable event should take place. jonah my friend, the mind boggles at the thought, but perhaps I ought to join you in an end of season celebratory lap around the hallowed turf? I cant say fairer than that. Two stark naked veteran Villans, a sight for sore eyes indeed.
glensider
It's a deal Glensider...just hope it isn't cold ;-)
jonah
voiceoftheholte, the problem is that, although what we suggest is wise and sensible, it's not likely under the current regime. To do what we suggest properly we need a wide-reaching scouting network and a manager who is willing to give youth a proper chance. Unfortunately we have neither. In the boom years there was justification for taking a short-termist approach, the idea being that short-term success (qualification for the Champions League) would pay for itself and be sustainable. That boat has been missed, for whatever reason, and the club's strategy needs to be re-thought. Personally, I don't see how O'Neill fits into this strategy. But he is here for at least another season, and clearly has the full confidence of Lerner, so there really isn't much point in worrying about it.
Albarnista
 

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