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Who Is To Blame For Villa's 'Decline'?

Who Is To Blame For Villa's 'Decline'?

Who is to Blame for the Villa Decline?

Players (some) and manager have all come in for some stick in recent weeks as the season has once again shown signs of stalling at the wrong time.

Maybe though we should ask who is to blame - really?

Some players?

Generally most have given their all in the season to date - and certainly many of the key players have given everything that could be asked of them. None has under-performed on a regular basis - in terms of effort or obvious intent - and if some disagree with this statement, then blame the manager for picking them.

The manager?

Always an easy target and I have wondered whether he has hit a ceiling. But wait, maybe he is playing what he considers to be his best team because he knows that to make changes will only weaken whatever chance we have of winning the next game. So who is to blame if some of the other players are not good enough? Easy to say the manager, but in any situation, there will always be better players and the desire to keep them playing - Wayne Rooney as an example anyone?

The owner?

Randy has been a breath of fresh air but to some extent must be to 'blame' because he sets the budgets for new players fees and salaries and therefore must have limited the manager's desire to buy. However the financial data released over the past few weeks shows that as a club Villa is reliant on Randy's funding - it is not a profitable club and we can see enough cases of where over spending has led to serious problems, so he is right to exercise some constraints - and maybe more than he does.

The fans?

Yes maybe we are to blame for unrealistic expectations. Fact is we pay some of the lowest seat prices in the PL and do not have the largest stadium. So annual revenues - i.e. net money paid out by us - is amongst the lowest in the top six or eight clubs. On the one hand we don't want to pay more but on the other all the evidence shows that the highest earning clubs are the most successful. Maybe we should be offering to pay more? So back to the start - who is to blame? One answer is everyone in their own way. MON could have bought some better players and used the ones he has better, Randy could have given him some more cash, some players should have shown up at vital times but didn't and the fans? Some of us got carried away and have forgotten that this is a long term trip we are on. All round the club is now in a much better state than it has been over the 48 years I have followed it, except for a couple of odd years that weren't sustained.

Another answer is what decline?

As someone else said over the weekend, it's time to calm down and be thankful for what we have, I'd hate to go back to where we were and believe that if we all stick together, it will get better still, though without more funding from we fans as a whole, what we have will never be improved upon or sustained.

Gordonsleftboot


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Writer:gordonsleftboot
Date:Monday April 12 2010
Time: 10:50AM

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I blame the Romans
Villa4Europe
12/04/2010 11:04:00
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Decline?We have done nothing but improve every season.What a ridiculous "article".
lerneravfc
12/04/2010 11:21:00
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Interesting to see so many posters who have commented on the headline rather than the article itself.
Albarnista
12/04/2010 11:41:00
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Its fascicle all this decline talk, dont judge the club by the managers tactical decisions or his financial decisions. Dont judge the club by the players commitment. Dont judge the club by the fans and dont judge the club by the chairman. Judge the club by where we were and where we are now, in the last 5 years we have done a complete 180, gone from being a very mediocre team slipping down the table, to one of the rising stars of the league. I dont care if MoN makes weird decisions, I dont care if he plays heskey in goal, I enjoy questioning and debating these points but the bottom line is...Where are we as a club, compared to where we were, and its categorically obvious that we have made progress and are still progressing. If you had told me at the begining of 09/10 we would be fighting for 4th in April and Gone to Wembley TWICE! there is no doubt you couldn't call it anything but a successful season. Everyone else in the country can see it, so why cant we?
mattyh1986
12/04/2010 11:58:00
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VOTH, you often say I predicted 8th-12th, here is a link to my predictions in the summer. I said 7th - http://www.astonvilla.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=7501879
young_jonah
12/04/2010 13:17:00
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Either way, opinions and predictions change over the course of a season, if all our players had gotten injured, would I have expected 7th still? No. The manager continues to over look the best right back at the club, we all know the starting 11 before the game (as do the opposing manager) and I (and everyone else are probably the same) can predict who and when the subs are, i.e. Sidwell on for Downing and Heskey on for Carew. Have we learnt from our mistakes last season? When we fell from 4th to 6th in March? No, we have played the same 11 all season again and they are now looking very tired. O'Neill has digs at the fans, like a former manager, yet no-one seems to care, there are some with blind faith. Luckily he will be gone in the next year or so, and we can build on what he has done, because it is becoming more and more obvious he has hit a ceiling, fans are turning on him, and even the media are starting to ask questions. I think the blues result might seal his fate one way or the other.
young_jonah
12/04/2010 13:22:00
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Young Jonah, jesus, you need to stop crying about him having a go at the fans.He's never once had a go at fans, but idiots who boo and moan at everything he does, of which im sure you are one of them, hence you taking it so personally
pauled177
12/04/2010 13:36:00
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So the issue is M'ON not rotating the squad?? And that is a reason to moan and throw your dummies out of the pram??? But when the club was in terminal decine you chose not to moan??? That is about the most ridiculous comment I have ever read. I wish we hadn't bought Heskey, I wish Young was at right back and Cuellar in the middle with Dunne. I wished we played 451 and not this damned 442 that is crucyfying bothe Miner and Petrov. However I am enjoying the ride onwards and upwards (so far upwards that we are exceeding your expectations). Are there things I would change with the way that M'ON does somethings? Of course. But have I had two great days out a Wembley? Yes. Am I pleased that we haven't lost a local derby since M'ON came to the club? Yes (even though 1 defeat to the Blues and you think that is it for M'ON?). Are we challenging at the right end of the table? Yes. Do I think we could have done better? Yes. Do I boo and moan because I have a different opionion to the manager? No. Do fans who reduce the confidence of the players by booing success make the club more attractive to other players? No. Does your sort of (non) support help? No. Do I think M'ON could have done better? Yes. DO I want the yoyo years of changing managers at the whim of the vocal minority back with us? no. And it is nothing to do with thick skin. For the first time in years we have caught up on investment levels with some other clubs and we are playing many years of catch up, but we are getting there. Man City have invested £350 in players in 2 years and thay have not been to Wembley and may not pip us for 4th. Your route is the same policy as Ellis and that is why you didn't moan during the Ellis years!!
voiceoftheholte
12/04/2010 14:55:00
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Jonah, dont u think that we need a stability with a long term manager, it never does us any good changing managers every 3-4 years, i for one would like to see mon here for a long time to come, we are so close and only a couple of players away from being a really top team, if we change manager now the new guy will want to bring in his own players thus we may be back 2 square 1. I agree mon is stubborn but am pleased with our progress im delighted ive been to wembley twice and that we r still chasing 4th.
astonsteve
12/04/2010 14:59:00
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No Decline, other have come on faster than that. you want to talk about decline - jump over to the Blackburn site (we would be just like them if we did not have the great 4 factors you mentioned)
lost_in_ca
12/04/2010 15:11:00
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