O'Neill - The Semi Final Excuses
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O'Neill - The Semi Final Excuses

Ok fair enough Monny doesn't write the official site reactions, he just provides the quotes for the verdict but it's very telling the opening line is about the two red cards.

O'Neill describes them as 'incontestable' and I fully agree, the penalty and John Terry's 'tackle' on Milner were straight reds in my mind. It's impossible to say otherwise in reality.

The penalty was as clear cut as you can get, NOBODY in that position would fall when all it takes is a touch for the ball to be in the back of the net, and as for the Terry tackle it matters not if he got a hairs breath on the ball first, what matters is the studs were impossibly high, the follow through was as clear as day and well let's face it, had any of our players done that they'd be done and given an extra ban for dangerous play.

So I agree, Chelsea should've been down to 9 men and I agree we should've been 1-0 up. But I really don't think it matters, Chelsea would've still battered us in the second half because whilst Monny hides behind refereeing decisions yet again at a Wembley appearance, the bottom line is we weren't good enough to win and he wasn't good enough to make changes to help us win.

I don't see any red cards changing that.

'I am sitting here again, six weeks on, and talking about major incidents in the game.'

I'm sitting here 18 months on questioning why we don't have a plan B. Why we don't use the squad Monny has paid good money for. Why we don't make substitutions to attempt to change a game or at the very least provide fresh impetus when it's clear 'the favourites' are as knackered as feck.

I'm sitting here wondering why we are still as predictable as a period.

He follows that line by saying:

'We should have had a penalty - it was clear cut. The referee has chosen to ignore it because of possible consequences.'

I agree...but would it have changed things? Our goal lead against Utd didn't. Because over 90 minutes we weren't good enough. What's different today? Over 90 minutes Chelsea took the best we could give, and then waited till we tired and stuffed us by three.

A penalty wouldn't have made a difference. I doubt a sending off would've. Against the top sides we've already seen how a sending off works in our favour. It doesn't, we are even more inept at breaking down a team who defend with 10 men than we are when there are 11 players on the pitch.

Monny then babbles a bit about Ferguson:

'SirAlexFerguson said a few weeks ago that he couldn't understand how, having been awarded a penalty kick, Vidic managed to stay on the pitch.'

What has that to do with today unless we really want to go down the conspiracy route and totally ignore the fact we weren't good enough?

Where's the honesty? I doubt Collins will even get close to having to remove his Twitter page tonight.

As for the Milner challenge, O'Neill describes it as 'horrendous' again I agree.

'The referee is right beside it and chooses to give him a yellow card. I was a horrendous challenge.'

Absolutely spot on. Maybe it's all you should expect from Terry thesedays with his 'personal issues' and the wider family problems he seems to have who would normally be his 'role models' but again what baring on the result does it really have.

Where are the comments about being 1-0 behind and bringing on the one striker in human history you can guarantee will not score?

Where are the comments about not making subs despite the fact it's clear certain players like normal, have lost their legs and Chelsea were cutting through them - despite their best efforts.

Where is the important stuff, as opposed to the emotional flaring, PR friendly conspiracy BS that in reality has nothing to do with why we lost?

Maybe I expect too much...maybe I just don't fall for it anymore?

This is our best season ever apparently. We haven't had as good a squad in 20 odd years apparently. O'Neill is the best manager we can get apparently.

Flame me, I disagree.

For the rightful Milner ranting and excuses please Click Here.

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Chelsea were better than us in the end, but they are not "on a completely different level" as some people say. We beat them at Villa Park. We also beat Man U and Liverpool at their own grounds. Any team that can do that in one season is clearly a good one; when we play well, we're as good as anyone. The problem - as many have stated - seems to be the fact that the lads are knackered having played virtually every game. MON has to pick the best side, that's his job, but doing so shows that we still don't have the strength in depth of the teams above and around us. Everyone has their opinion on who should come off the bench or what the rotation policy should be, but I don't think we even have a rotation policy. We can't have. We need strikers who can score goals more often but as much as anything we need to be able to rest key players safely, which means they're replaced for a game or two by someone equally as good. We just can't do that in a lot of positions right now. If we ditch Heskey and Carew this summer (as lots of us seem to think will happen) they probably won't be the only ones, and we need to bring in twice as many GOOD players this season to replace those leaving. If we don't, we'll lose ground to Citeh, Spuds and Everton never mind the CL regulars.
13/04/2010 14:56:00
Brilliantly put Astriel, i reckon David Moyes or Roy Hodgson would take us to where we should be.
12/04/2010 18:34:00
I don't know, Juergen Klinsmann - if he would come. Won 60% of the games he was in charge of. Avram Grant is also up there with about 60% and he at least managed to get his team to the FA Cup finals. Considering MON is at a 40% win rate for Villa, half the premier league managers have a better win rate. Give me David Moyes, I'm sure Villa would be a step up for him. Or is there no one better than MON who would come to Villa? Honestly I think MON has taken us as far as he can - his faults, which everyone can see, are holding us back. The fact that he does not manage his squad sufficiently is resulting in us dropping a number of points in the second half of the season. And he has had a number of years to create his own squad the issue that there is insufficient quality on the bench is a direct result of his transfer deals. So besides him getting us to 6th with a first 11 that should be getting us 4th, what has MON done for us?
12/04/2010 12:39:00
BobTheBuilder - your last comment is something I have been saying for a while. Too many fans are keen to say "get rid of MON" with their response to who should replace him being something along the lines of "anyone is better than that idiot." WHO can we get who is going to do a better job, realistically??? Unless The Special One decides he wants a bit more of a challenge there is no one...Hughes - average. Megson, Brown...maybe we could go the Burnley route and bring in Brian Laws???
12/04/2010 03:29:00
Sorry Bob but are you kidding? Lets look at the history of MON in charge. 2007/08 season, May we are the 14th worst performing side. March was even better 18th worst performing side. 2008/2009 was great. April we were the 16th worst performing side. March we were the 17th. February the 12th. 2009/2010 - March the 10th worst performing side. February we were the 13th worst team. Notice a pattern? How about when the majority of our goals have been conceeded. 2007/2008, oh between 71-90 minutes we conceed the most goals. 2008/09 shock its 71-90 minutes we conceed the most goals. 2009/10 guess what between 71-90 minutes we conceed the most goals. This is an on-going problem. Year after year the same mistakes are made and you want me to ignore the problem? If you look at our first half of the season form we are a top 4 side. The form for the second half of the season puts us in the bottom half of the table. All I'm saying is that we have a top 4 side if the team were run properly. At present it isn't.
11/04/2010 22:25:00
"How could we be worse off?" I'll tell you how we could be worse off, Astriel. Do you remember Newcastle last season? New manager, a fortune to spend on new players, and they were relegated. And do you remember Portsmouth last season? They spent a fortune on players and won (that's right, WON) the FA Cup. And they are also relegated. We've been in a final and a semi-final, have finished 11th, 6th and 6th and are sitting two points behind Liverpool with two games in hand. How could it be worse? Have a little think and answer that one yourself.
11/04/2010 21:00:00
It's not your club godzvilla. However you define the word 'supporter' 444, it surely must include being dissatisfied. My post was a reply to all those who were saying the only 'real' supporters keep on saying everything is great regardless. I turn up regardless and watch regardless and cheer the team regardless, but I won't slavishly cheer on a manager who could learn something from the Fergies of this world and seems to come to the end of his ability. And i have never booed at the Villa either. I suppose you think that MoN is being a good loser? BTW, stef, whose title is 'purely designed to stir **** or have I missed something?
11/04/2010 14:11:00
I've come to a conclusion ........ we have some of the most pathetic so called 'fans' around. Our club is doing great, I get dissapointed on occasion, but still support through the good and the bad. Whats wrong with people ?? want want want, top six for the next 20 years and some good cup runs would be better than getting into the CL once and getting hammered in the Camp Nou, Bernabau, San Siro, Stadio Olympico etc......we don't have the fan base, income, merchandising etc.... to ever sustain this dream you losers have in your heads ....if we get 5th this year .... it will be a an improvement from the last two seasons .... our wage bill is pushing us to the edge as it is .... won't any of you be happy until we are bust, relegated and turned into a club that no one worth their salt wants to manage ????? Fickle doesn't even cover it !! support and enjoy the fact we are a good side who can mix it with the best. Trophies will come, just get your heads out the clouds and enjoy. The fickle crew weren't at Wembley yesterday, I saw a group of supporters who we having fun and singing their hearts out for the club they love. UTV
11/04/2010 11:41:00
I firmly believe you are maybe one big strong midfield general short of being able to win games like this. Having seen your two Wembley games I am left believing you lose because you are too nice. Plain and simple. You don't have the mean streak that the big 4 have. Arsenal play pretty football but they still have a couple of players who put their studs in. Pity you don't have Carroll because I could see him performing well for you.
SFC Forever
11/04/2010 11:07:00
Lol... I can't believe that people still support MON. Even John Terry has more of a clue about our strengths and weaknesses. We are a tired team, its impossible to play the same players week in and week out in three competitions. Its impossible to compete over a quick tempo game if you don't make any substitutions. Its impossible to gain a tactical edge over another team when you run the same tactics over the entire season. John Carew sat on the bench for most of the season while Heskey played week in week out. Carew is 9 from 11 games at the moment - thats more than Heskey has scored in his ENTIRE Villa career. Why did it take MON so long to realise that. I love the villa team, its young, pacy and super talented. I'm even going to put my balls on the chopping block and say with this squad we are underperforming! If our form from the first half of the season was carried through to the second half of the season we would be walking 4th position. The reason that we aren't is MON and his ridiculous policies. We have the team, now we just need the manager.
11/04/2010 10:58:00
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