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Carling Cup Verdict

Devastated is the word O'Neill used to describe his feelings after today's 2-1 loss to Man U.

O'Neill was speaking on the Official Site after the match and was left bemused and angered over Phil the...... Dowd's decision to not send off Nemanja Vidic after 5 minutes after he dragged down Gabby in the box.

I've already done this to death, but for those holidaying on Mars it was a clear penalty, a clear professional foul, and the idiot in charge couldn't even remember the rule book well enough to even book Vidic, let alone send him off as the rules of the game dictate.

O'Neill, like me, and many others, was dumbfounded by this decision and it leaves a bas taste in the mouth - especially as Vidic seems to think as long as you are infront of a player it can't be a sending off offence. The rules might be different in Serbia, who knows?

'It was plain for all to see. I think it's an inexplicable decision, I really don't understand it.'

Dowd at one point 'trotted' over like a donkey to speak to Monny who had obviously made his thoughts known, especially as it seemed everytime a Villa player farted they got booked but all O'Neill as a gentleman and scholar will say is:

'I spoke to Phil but what Phil and I said will just stay with me.'

He's a bigger man than me, I'd have recorded the incompetent buffoon's words, sent them to the News of the World and photoshopped lurid images with him and Bella if I was able to.

O'Neill rightly doesn't continue to say we'd have won outright had that decision gone the way of the law of the game, we all know Man U were good for the win. We've seen first hand Man U at 10 men aren't a pushover. But he does rightly point out the game changed or should've been changed on that decision.

'You're talking about Wembley. You're talking about all the things that go with Wembley in a Cup Final.

'It doesn't matter if it's in the first second of the game or the 89th minute. The decision is straight forward. It is so straight forward it's incredible.

'In a couple of days time it's forgotten - we're losing finalists in a really fine game of football. But it's a major point in the game.'

That's the key for me. I'm not convinced we'd have won ever if Vidic had rightly been binned, but it would've made a fair result whatever happened. That's all you can ask for, a fair result...and Phil Dowd is patently incapable of doing that it seems in any match he's involved with.

We weren't good enough over the 90 minutes ultimately. We may not have been had Vidic gone off. But at least we wouldn't be left agonising over 'what if'.

Football is big money and big business. Baring's Bank suffered from the incompetence, the mistakes and the idiocy of Nick Leeson and he understands that. When will football realise referee's thesedays get more wrong than right. It's not by their own design simply results anymore...it's hundreds of thousands of pounds at stake.

That's bad enough in itself because this is meant to be football, not the hyped up over reality nonsense it now is, but given that's what those in the FA and Prem wanted...surely it's about time they booted those ref's who regularly forget the rules and helped out those who struggle to enforce them because you get gobby, overpaid shites surrounding them every time they scratch their nose.

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Writer: Mike Field Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Sunday February 28 2010

Time: 9:22PM

Your Comments

I agree, Dowd was and has been a complete idiot. I have said on BRMB's phone in loads of times this season that the general standard of refs is shocking. The only decent reffing performance was probably last Sunday by Stuart Atwell - and that says it all. GUTTED! ABSOLUTELY GUTTED! I was 100% convinced that we were going to win.
PiperUK
Yes thats right blame the ref, thought he had an excellent game and Villa deserved to lose on the performance. Small club mentality on show for all to see here.
TergeHauge
I agree, Dowd was and has been a complete idiot. I have said on BRMB's phone in loads of times this season that the general standard of refs is shocking. The only decent reffing performance was probably last Sunday by Stuart Atwell - and that says it all. GUTTED! ABSOLUTELY GUTTED! I was 100% convinced that we were going to win.
PiperUK
Try reading Rutger, it's a phenomenal thing when you don't just see what you want. Go on try it.
mike_field
Try reading Rutger, it's a phenomenal thing when you don't just see what you want. Go on try it.
mike_field
Dowd didn't see the obvious goal scoring opportunity you dork!
PiperUK
Dowd didn't see the obvious goal scoring opportunity you dork!
PiperUK
TergeHauge you obvs didnt watch the Villa game? Idiot!
Blitz
I have to disagree with you on this .. i think we would have won playing against ten men
Doug4ever
I have to disagree with you on this .. i think we would have won playing against ten men
Doug4ever
I think we would of won aswell against 10 men.
Blitz
Don't think it is as clear cut as saying Villa would have won just because United would have gone down to 10 men. The ref was wrong mind...
Sarah Shoes
Love ASTON VILLA, HATE Debt! boys done us proud 2day ... every step of the way. LOVE ASTON VILLA, HATE DEBT! Never let ayone down. So proud to B a Villa fan. How many Man U fans know that New Ton Heath is Manchester ... Well done ... Green & yellow army ! ...
StuLinney
I'm astounded myself that it wasn't a red card. But at least he didn't score the winning goal like John Terry did against Burnley! You're a great team, you'll bounce back.
ForeverUnited
Personally I think had the incident been later in the game he would of sent him off, it was too early in the game for the ref to be accused of "spoiling the final"
col8
Personally I think had the incident been later in the game he would of sent him off, it was too early in the game for the ref to be accused of "spoiling the final"
col8
agreed sarah shoes, not a forgone conclusion we'd have won but at least if man utd had gone on to win it they'd have fully deservedit and there would have been no controversy. You would also think if they went down to 10 men they would have sacrificed a striker and you would think that would have been Owen. So two massive effects from Dowd bottling it.
Forever united, all the Mancs down here (still at Wembley!) are saying the same, was a red etc. I do agree, we'll bounce back and this could make our players stronger, especially the younger ones as they'll never want to feel the losing at a final feeling again, could make them mentally tougher.
the fear
agreed sarah shoes, not a forgone conclusion we'd have won but at least if man utd had gone on to win it they'd have fully deservedit and there would have been no controversy. You would also think if they went down to 10 men they would have sacrificed a striker and you would think that would have been Owen. So two massive effects from Dowd bottling it.
Forever united, all the Mancs down here (still at Wembley!) are saying the same, was a red etc. I do agree, we'll bounce back and this could make our players stronger, especially the younger ones as they'll never want to feel the losing at a final feeling again, could make them mentally tougher.
the fear
Even graham (the villa hater) Poll stated that vidic should have seen a straight red but also Rafeal should have seen red after a two footed challenge through the back of milner then an elbow on heskey within 25 seconds of each other yet neither player even got a yellow, were we the better team on the day? ...no not really but if they went down to ten or 9 men i think we would have done them. the question now is should the refs assosiation publish an official appology or even foot the bill for refunding villa fans tickets? maybe not the later but an oppology is the least they should give
astonian villan
Even graham (the villa hater) Poll stated that vidic should have seen a straight red but also Rafeal should have seen red after a two footed challenge through the back of milner then an elbow on heskey within 25 seconds of each other yet neither player even got a yellow, were we the better team on the day? ...no not really but if they went down to ten or 9 men i think we would have done them. the question now is should the refs assosiation publish an official appology or even foot the bill for refunding villa fans tickets? maybe not the later but an oppology is the least they should give
astonian villan
Yes, the ref was wrong but that's in the past now. Win next Sunday and we're back at Wembley. We still have everything to play for. C'mon Villa. No mistakes next time.
chocolate teapot
Yes, the ref was wrong but that's in the past now. Win next Sunday and we're back at Wembley. We still have everything to play for. C'mon Villa. No mistakes next time.
chocolate teapot
think it will help build the spirit and strength of the team, life isn't always fair, gone now, onward and upwards is the only way!
the fear
think it will help build the spirit and strength of the team, life isn't always fair, gone now, onward and upwards is the only way!
the fear
I see that even Fergie thinks that Vidic should have gone.
chocolate teapot
I see that even Fergie thinks that Vidic should have gone.
chocolate teapot
agree with most comments here, it should have been red, but wasn't, life isn't fair most of the time and this will always spill over into sport, this time we were on the wrong end. However we were lucky against Palace so it's true you win some you lose some.

Big effort by the lads though, they should come back buzzing Sunday to get straight back to Wembly!
davidsands1982
Listening to Adrian Durham on Talksport and he played a clip of Graham Poll admitting that refs do deliberately not give the big decision in big games because they are scared of getting it wrong. Idiots, all of them.
PiperUK
Listening to Adrian Durham on Talksport and he played a clip of Graham Poll admitting that refs do deliberately not give the big decision in big games because they are scared of getting it wrong. Idiots, all of them.
PiperUK
Damn shame for Villa, I thought on the balance of play you deserved it - but these decisions are hugely costly and it is the refusal of the games administrators to step in to the modern era that keeps stuff like this happening.

Oh, and our referees are officially all awful - google the list of the worlds best referees and there's not one from England in the top ten. Shocking, from supposedly the best league in the world.
Gunnerman
Damn shame for Villa, I thought on the balance of play you deserved it - but these decisions are hugely costly and it is the refusal of the games administrators to step in to the modern era that keeps stuff like this happening.

Oh, and our referees are officially all awful - google the list of the worlds best referees and there's not one from England in the top ten. Shocking, from supposedly the best league in the world.
Gunnerman
 

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