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Take A Bow Phil Dowd

Never in the field of human football, was so much owed by Man U to so few referees.

Ok, it's not quite Churchillian:

Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.....

But even though JF is at Wembley, no doubt berating the referee and drowning his sorrows I just know he'd find himself on the phone if I actually posted what I want to say about this incompetent buffoon who seems unable to go a single match without making a mistake that most of us would flog our kids for.

We can itemise his idiocy today although without wishing to sound libellous, IF I was in his position I'd be off to William Hill post match but the daft thing is I can't even accuse him of that even if I wanted to libel the man....because that would show intelligence.

5 mins pen - not even a booking. Rafael does his best to floor a player and when that doesn't work he goes with his elbow....no booking.

Yet in the meantime two of our players fart and it's instant yellows? What was it, 65 minutes before Vidic finally got the yellow for the red card professional foul he deserved?

Ok I'm rambling because I'm peeved, but it comes to something when Lineker, Mary Poppins and 'Shambolic' Hanson can't understand why the ref was so bad, and actually intimate he was scared of the United reaction.

He's meant to be an unbiased, well paid professional himself and yet he was clearly intimidated. Is this the kind of man the Referee's Association wish to defend? The kind of man they wish to call one of their own?

Does a game go by wherein there isn't at least one 'questionable' decision this man takes?

What's the answer....video evidence? Makes you wonder, are referee's so against it because they think it will put them out of a job and ruin 'the natural pace' of a game, or are they more scared in fact of being shown up and finally having their decisions brought into question.

Yes ok I feel stronger about this tonight than I would normally because, despite helping as much as we could by making our own stupid errors and pig headed decisions to play people out of position and then make the same substitution we always do (Sidwell must be really annoyed, he didn't even get 30 seconds today) I feel cheated.

Man U deserved the win, for the majority of the game they were better than us. They passed it around better, and created far more opportunities than we did by being scared to shoot or by having static forwards again. BUT...

...had Dowd actually followed the training he has no doubt been given Vidic would've been off the field deservedly after 5 minutes. He wouldn't have then been able to help keep us out the box for the next 90 given the injury time we had.

It was a schoolboy error and I'm fed up of referee's harping one minute they have to stick to the letter of the law, and then next claiming a defence under the spirit of the law. If referee's want spirits, stop hiding the fact you drink. If you don't understand the letter of the law then go back to school you illiterate retards.

It's one or the other...not one when it suits you, and another when you are too scared to make the big decisions.

Today was a classic Cup Final for me, it was hard fought, had it's moments of brilliance and both teams could've taken charge - it should've been better and it would've been had an idiot not been in charge. The game has been taken away from the fans enough without encouraging and rewarding referees who fancy their chances as being the centre of attention instead of the game actually being played, especially when their gutless nature in decision making means one side is cheated unfairly out of their day.

We may not have won, this is Man United and even down to 10 men that doesn't guarantee a win...but those fans at Wembley today who expected to see a fair match, judged correctly and within the letter of the law have been cheated by Phil Dowd who was incapable of making the tough decision early on.

Losing to Man U is nothing to be ashamed of, most likely losing because of the reckless and incompetent decisions of one man who frankly should not matter and who in reality wouldn't have his name known if football wasn't celebrity driven is unforgiveable.

I hope he enjoyed his wage for today...maybe he'd like to contribute it to compensate those who spent their hard earn't cash expecting a fair game.

Not difficult is it....last man, red card. Elbow, yellow card.

So let me quote to Rafael 'that's two....no more'. Yeah you told him Dowdy, bullied as a child? Christ even the commentators were taking the piss.

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Writer: Mike Field Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Sunday February 28 2010

Time: 6:07PM

Your Comments

I'm glad you tempered what you REALLY feel! But yes the loss is hard to take. Some bizarre refereeing from Englands finest. On another note I thought the volume from our fans was immense. Just gutted, totally gutted, by the result and the unjustness.
revdpete
Lets not berate the fact he fact he should have sent off Vidic. He should have but he didn't. The players still had a job to do out there and we didn't rise to the occasion. I'm ok with that, but I really would rather we accept it with grace than bore other fans with claims there should have been red cards.
JayVFC
I'm glad you tempered what you REALLY feel! But yes the loss is hard to take. Some bizarre refereeing from Englands finest. On another note I thought the volume from our fans was immense. Just gutted, totally gutted, by the result and the unjustness.
revdpete
Lets not berate the fact he fact he should have sent off Vidic. He should have but he didn't. The players still had a job to do out there and we didn't rise to the occasion. I'm ok with that, but I really would rather we accept it with grace than bore other fans with claims there should have been red cards.
JayVFC
An uncharacteristic mistake from probably our best player of the season let them in plus a few other players giving away balls they normally wouldn't .. it just wasn't going to be our day today .. Richard Dunne still rules . The Villa Fans were great today .
Doug4ever
p.s i'm sure this is all going to be Carews fault .
Doug4ever
p.s i'm sure this is all going to be Carews fault .
Doug4ever
It's all Carew's fault.....PMSL

Jay, as just posted on the board: not sure if that comes across in my Phil Dowd rant, but it's the bigger picture. The authorities want football to be a billion pound industry, if so, stupid feck ups like Dowd's can't be allowed to continue. We could've still lost BUT it would've been a fair loss, and from Man U point of view a better win really. What we have now is a cheated result basically. I'd rather lose properly, than lose knowing it could've been different if Phil Dowd could've read his Ref 101 Bible. lol
mike_field
It's all Carew's fault.....PMSL

Jay, as just posted on the board: not sure if that comes across in my Phil Dowd rant, but it's the bigger picture. The authorities want football to be a billion pound industry, if so, stupid feck ups like Dowd's can't be allowed to continue. We could've still lost BUT it would've been a fair loss, and from Man U point of view a better win really. What we have now is a cheated result basically. I'd rather lose properly, than lose knowing it could've been different if Phil Dowd could've read his Ref 101 Bible. lol
mike_field
Yeah I fully appreciate that MF. But the point I'm trying to make is that lets not make this red card issue the be all and end all of this match because on that showing, without playing awful, we didn't deserve to win. Still, onwards and upwards!
JayVFC
Accepted mate, but I am getting bored of saying I think Man U would've won anyway so give me a break PMSL And anyway, I'll take every opportunity I can to attack a fat boy with cards lol
mike_field
Accepted mate, but I am getting bored of saying I think Man U would've won anyway so give me a break PMSL And anyway, I'll take every opportunity I can to attack a fat boy with cards lol
mike_field
What about the red card that should have been shown to Collins after about 7 minutes? Or the two footed disgusting lunge by Stewart Downing that was shockingly only a yellow?! Or the penalty and red card that should have been shown to Richard Dunne? You rode your luck, ***** right off.
Mark Thomas
In that sense it's just another chapter of the same book. I am reletively suprised and happy that we haven't witnessed an onslaught of users coming on and slating the team for not winning. I'm either putting that down to people staying away so they don't say something they will regret or that the Villa gave a good account of themselves and played their part in what was ultimately a decent final.
JayVFC
:-)
Doug4ever
:-)
Doug4ever
You lot have my sympathy - Dowd bottled it with Vidic as it was so early in the game!
merlin
You lot have my sympathy - Dowd bottled it with Vidic as it was so early in the game!
merlin
Vital Football needs a separate section, 'Vital Referees'. No seriously! Fans and supporters often take them for granted, but their decisions have a huge impact. To be fair, they are under enourmous pressure from the powers that be. There are mitigating factors here. The real villains are the authorities who come up with absurd rules and 'laws'. Anyone remember Portugal v's Netherlands in the last World Cup? That was an example of a ref doing'what-he's-been-put-under-intense-pressure-to-do. Also referees often bottle it against the 'Sky Four' for political reasons. I remember Dermot Gallagher been shafted by the FA in the 90's, for not sending off Robbie Keane, after a bit of 'handbags' between him and 'superstar' David Beckham. Gallagher used his 'common', and paid the price for it.
VillaWillRiseAgain
Vital Football needs a separate section, 'Vital Referees'. No seriously! Fans and supporters often take them for granted, but their decisions have a huge impact. To be fair, they are under enourmous pressure from the powers that be. There are mitigating factors here. The real villains are the authorities who come up with absurd rules and 'laws'. Anyone remember Portugal v's Netherlands in the last World Cup? That was an example of a ref doing'what-he's-been-put-under-intense-pressure-to-do. Also referees often bottle it against the 'Sky Four' for political reasons. I remember Dermot Gallagher been shafted by the FA in the 90's, for not sending off Robbie Keane, after a bit of 'handbags' between him and 'superstar' David Beckham. Gallagher used his 'common', and paid the price for it.
VillaWillRiseAgain
Are you realizing this just now? We haven't beaten ManUtd in 20 years now. And on several occasions, we have been hindered by the ref. Giving away penalties to Ronaldo and Berbatov, Spurs shots have to be at least 3feet inside the box to be approved...etc etc. Just get used to it.
NorwaySpurs
Are you realizing this just now? We haven't beaten ManUtd in 20 years now. And on several occasions, we have been hindered by the ref. Giving away penalties to Ronaldo and Berbatov, Spurs shots have to be at least 3feet inside the box to be approved...etc etc. Just get used to it.
NorwaySpurs
I thought Utd totally deserved the win, but still....You had some shocking decisions against you today. You need luck against Utd to stand a chance and today you had none, Dowd bottled it bigtime. As NorwaySpurs points out, weve been robbed by them over the years, just robbed. Feel for you guys and in a way it could be a blessing in disguise - when we won the CC 2 years ago we went on a serious dip in form. This defeat could galvanise you.
HuddersfieldYiddo
I thought Utd totally deserved the win, but still....You had some shocking decisions against you today. You need luck against Utd to stand a chance and today you had none, Dowd bottled it bigtime. As NorwaySpurs points out, weve been robbed by them over the years, just robbed. Feel for you guys and in a way it could be a blessing in disguise - when we won the CC 2 years ago we went on a serious dip in form. This defeat could galvanise you.
HuddersfieldYiddo
If we had a Vital Referees section it would probably crash from too much traffic . It would be interesting though , How about it J.F
Doug4ever
If we had a Vital Referees section it would probably crash from too much traffic . It would be interesting though , How about it J.F
Doug4ever
We got what we deserved,until MON wakes up that Petrov and Heskey in the side means we are playing with 9 most of the game. And carlos is not a right back, gives us nothing going forward we are always going to struggle. To ponderos in build up, allows opposition defences set themselves, resulting in hoofball when we do have the ball.
rawbonce
Just hope the experience, will further galvanise this squad to go back in may and win the FA Cup. I don't think particularly 2nd half we woke upto the fact they were letting us come onto them and we just don't have the nous at the moment to break down a solid experienced side used to winner takes all games. on the plus side we looked slightly more ambitious than on our ast Wembley appearance.
fatloser
Just hope the experience, will further galvanise this squad to go back in may and win the FA Cup. I don't think particularly 2nd half we woke upto the fact they were letting us come onto them and we just don't have the nous at the moment to break down a solid experienced side used to winner takes all games. on the plus side we looked slightly more ambitious than on our ast Wembley appearance.
fatloser
Good points from Spuz fans. Unbelievable!! We didn't deserve it though gents even if Dowd looked like he stayed up all night in front of a mirror practising his facial expressions because he knew so many would be watching him. Refs should be made to take lie detectors after games!!!!
Villan444
Phil Dowd should be charged with Rape....cos that's what he did to us
jolf
Im a United fan and I agree that the ref hindered you today. He made a huge mistake with not sending off vidic, rightly carded two of your players, seemed to not want to give into the crowd so refused to book rafael, then let cuellar get away with murder to prove he wasnt biased, then spent the rest of the game trying to play a balancing act. He got plenty of decisions wrong for both sides, but admittedly, not sending off vidic was a huge advantage for us. I resent the fact that people are putting it down to comments fergie made over a year ago or that he was scared of something. If it was at old trafford, he might be scared of 70,000 reds, but to say he was scared of Fergie is just rubbish - he's just an old boy with a big mouth - referees have already proven time and again this season that they arent afraid to screw us when he trash talks them - so god knows what phil dowd was on today. Outside the vidic incident we were the better team though and its not like we havent proven to be at least your equals with 10 men before. Either way, unlucky today - hopefully you'll win the FA cup now.
tuscan3000
We have go move on. 4th and the the fa cup are still there for us. Pray the players can put this behind them i love my club and always will to my dieing breath
villaninthemerde
Its not Man Utd that cheated - its bad reffing - I think Vidic expected to go, but you scored, went one nil up, you should have closed the game down more - but Owens goal was well taken, Park was unlucky, and Roo - well COllins went in with his elbow to attack that ball, IF he had connected with Roo, it would have taken his head off
niteworlok
Its not Man Utd that cheated - its bad reffing - I think Vidic expected to go, but you scored, went one nil up, you should have closed the game down more - but Owens goal was well taken, Park was unlucky, and Roo - well COllins went in with his elbow to attack that ball, IF he had connected with Roo, it would have taken his head off
niteworlok
So everyone was watching a different game then?
Mark Thomas
So everyone was watching a different game then?
Mark Thomas
I agree Its not Man Utd that cheated but its not the first time Vidic has cheated and got away with it . If you take blatantly pushing people out of the way and trying to swap shirts before the games over he would be an ordinary defender .
Doug4ever
I agree Its not Man Utd that cheated but its not the first time Vidic has cheated and got away with it . If you take blatantly pushing people out of the way and trying to swap shirts before the games over he would be an ordinary defender .
Doug4ever
Mark Thomas has never really been funny, you're no different...but good effort though chap. Tuscan, I agree. Dowd seemed to want to balance everything after reacting, ie giving the pen, he then bottled it so no card. To balance it any tackle from us was booked. After Monny argued, he then stopped booking us and turned on you. It was tit for tat in his head....nothing about the rules or whether it was deserved. He was permanently trying to balance his earlier reactions but the big decisions he bottled. I still think you'd have won, but that's not really the point.
mike_field
It has been a bad few months with referees for Irish Aston Villa supporters, our biggest games for years ruined by refereeing incompetence. Seriously need to have a look at video technology it's just too frustrating.
liamo1981
Need 1 ref in each half and 4 linesmen - two down the flanks and one behind each goal.
PiperUK
Need 1 ref in each half and 4 linesmen - two down the flanks and one behind each goal.
PiperUK
Atleast we wont Lose to Utd in the Fa cup finals :)
Blitz
In my nightmare two-hour ride back to my hotel (thanks to London transport who turned wembley park station into a zoo) I had complete strangers (train conductor, coffee shop cashier and more) tell me how "Villa were robbed." When I saw that idiot Dowd warming up pre-game I knew it was going to be one of those days.... he's an absolute disgrace. Long report coming on my return to the good ole...... (if JF approves it....)
gmvillan
Few comments on video refs etc.. I think it just has to happen now!! The only argument which holds up any against it is the delay caused but for me that just wouldn't happen! ..I think each manager should have a maximum of 3 flags which they must throw on the pitch immediately they disagree with a MAJOR decision. I.E. a key thing like a penalty, a sending off or offside goal or something. .. They do this very effectively in american football & it actually adds a new dimension to the tactics of the overall game. . The "delay" it would cause is a fallacy as there is already a long break in play when say a penalty is awarded or a goal is scored with players surrounding the officials & complaining plus the time it take to set up the penalty etc.. Sadly i do not think this will happen though as i believe the FA control the "top 4" in this country anyhow & would lose a lot of their current ability to influence results if this were to take place.
danceoftheshamen
Something that seems to have been missed, that pitch was a disgrace. No cup final should have ever been played on it, the Wembley groundskeepers should be ashamed of themselves. Dowd, shocking. Decisions for both teams were way off the mark. Where was Howard Webb???
Francobaresi13
Something that seems to have been missed, that pitch was a disgrace. No cup final should have ever been played on it, the Wembley groundskeepers should be ashamed of themselves. Dowd, shocking. Decisions for both teams were way off the mark. Where was Howard Webb???
Francobaresi13
has anyone thought of the tactiful side of Dowds uselessness. If Vidic had been sent off then Chewy would of had to change his system, thus possibly taking Owen off to put another defender on, therefore no equalising goal
av-jc-86
has anyone thought of the tactiful side of Dowds uselessness. If Vidic had been sent off then Chewy would of had to change his system, thus possibly taking Owen off to put another defender on, therefore no equalising goal
av-jc-86
Great idea danceotshamen, but not a hope in hell. I think you meant that the top four in this country control the FA. If you didn't then I do. And yes, Mark Thomas you were watching a different game. We might have been watching through claret and blue glasses, but what were you watching through? Answers on a postcard ...
144wittonlane
Great idea danceotshamen, but not a hope in hell. I think you meant that the top four in this country control the FA. If you didn't then I do. And yes, Mark Thomas you were watching a different game. We might have been watching through claret and blue glasses, but what were you watching through? Answers on a postcard ...
144wittonlane
Dowd is a CHEAT and another Ferguson lap-dog, yes Sir Alex, no Sir Alex, like a lot of people in a position of power within the game! On the game, the only real difference was Rooney, so credit to most of the Villa players (not Heskey) for the performance.
Stourbridge Villan
Dowd is a CHEAT and another Ferguson lap-dog, yes Sir Alex, no Sir Alex, like a lot of people in a position of power within the game! On the game, the only real difference was Rooney, so credit to most of the Villa players (not Heskey) for the performance.
Stourbridge Villan
Lets face it...we need a striker....a proper striker....a goal hanging, goal poaching 30 a season man....and that aint Heskey...and it aint Carew either ! Having said that we are still a fine team...a lot better than anything in recent history. So lets all cheer up !
MASON_PARKER
and Yes...Dowd bottled it...
MASON_PARKER
MON has got to already know which striker(s) he is after we need a minimum of 2, 3 if The Fonz isn't ready yet. I've got a feeling Kris Boyd is one of them.
claretandbluearmy
MON has got to already know which striker(s) he is after we need a minimum of 2, 3 if The Fonz isn't ready yet. I've got a feeling Kris Boyd is one of them.
claretandbluearmy
Dowd is no longer safe to walk the streets of our city.
Stig
It was one of those decisions that Manchester United always get. You cannot predict the outcome should we have had played against 10men for 87 mins. It certainly would have been different and in our favour. Again, a poor ref changes history. Still the FA Cup is more important now.
leelindsay
It was one of those decisions that Manchester United always get. You cannot predict the outcome should we have had played against 10men for 87 mins. It certainly would have been different and in our favour. Again, a poor ref changes history. Still the FA Cup is more important now.
leelindsay
 

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