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Should CL Qualification Change? Have Your Say

Should CL Qualification Change? Have Your Say

Following on from the article yesterday about the new Champions League qualification proposals: Top 4 Won't Like New League Proposals - MON Does

we have had a poll suggested by villa_de

Should the qualification remain as it is? Should it be a play off between 4th and 5th? Should it be, as proposed, a play off between 4th - 7th?

Or should we be looking at adding the FA Cup or indeed both Cups (League Cup being the other) into the mix? It would then surely at least make it a 'champions' league then?

Have your say in the article comments, our forum thread: Click Here

And don't forget to vote!

What people are saying so far:

Gunnerman: Apparently Moyes isn't a fan of the idea - depends on the views of the rest of the league. I like the concept, but as has been debated on our forum I'm not convinced the idea has been properly thought through. It could end up in us losing our 4th champions league spot, putting the whole thing back to square 1.

The Fear: That was the only point against I could really come up with, as you say, we could potentially lose the 4th place if we do follow through, although I guess they'd only go ahead with the right permission. It is unfair in many ways, as are the play offs in the lower leagues, but on the flipside, they can be very exciting and might open things up a little.... Better way, as I've said numerous times in my CL rants, is to give the places to champions, so 1st in league, League Cup winners and FA Cup winners. Then maybe 2nd also. Used to be a competition for winners, now it is for also rans.

paul_ownz: Don't like the idea myself and not just because i am an Arsenal fan. In the last 3 seasons Blackburn, Bolton & fulham have finished 7th and had this proposal been in place could of seen them in Europe. I don't see how anyone would benefit from those teams being in the competition except fans of those clubs. The CL which already has a rubbish Group stage would add another(possible) couple of average/poor teams making it easier for the big teams to win it, We would eventually lose our 4th spot place because it works on co efficiencies etc. A better solution would be for the FA cup winners to go head to head with 4th spot.

claretandbluearmy: that's a bit shallow and selfish paul the big four are the big four because they get massive funds for champs League, who's to say Blackburn, Bolton and Fulham couldnt improve ther whole structure with that financial backing and become the new 'Arsenal' maybe?

Full comments: Top 4 Won't Like New League Proposals - MON Does

Also an interesting article about the same issue on Vital Chelsea, whose position is, as expected as one of the 'top four' a bit different to maybe many of ours: Click Here

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Writer:J P Fear
Date:Wednesday February 17 2010
Time: 8:54AM

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I have to say it smacks of overtures of greed by the Premier league. Not a fan of the idea, as it comes down to possibly 2 games to decide qualification. 4th place team could finish 20 points plus ahead of 7th place, have a bad game in play offs and bang goes the Champs League. Prem League just looking at more ways to line their already overstuffed pockets!!
Kuffit
17/02/2010 09:13:00
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I have to say it smacks of overtures of greed by the Premier league. Not a fan of the idea, as it comes down to possibly 2 games to decide qualification. 4th place team could finish 20 points plus ahead of 7th place, have a bad game in play offs and bang goes the Champs League. Prem League just looking at more ways to line their already overstuffed pockets!!
Kuffit
17/02/2010 09:13:00
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Couple of points. Champions League should just be for Champions. However as football is all about TV money that will never happen. If England has four qualifiers it should either be the top 4 or the top 3 and the FA Cup Winners. If the league want an extra game then maybe 4th could have a play off with the FA Cup Winners for the final spot. At the moment the FA Cup is reduced to the value of the League Cup with the winners getting into the Europa League. So maybe this would also give a boost to the FA Cup. But a massive thumbs down to the overall play off idea for all of the reasons mentioned in the article. However it will be in the interests of every club who just hope for a top half finish to vote for the idea as it would give them an opportunity to grab the riches on offer. Those currently in the top 4 will obviously vote against it.
voiceoftheholte
17/02/2010 09:15:00
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Couple of points. Champions League should just be for Champions. However as football is all about TV money that will never happen. If England has four qualifiers it should either be the top 4 or the top 3 and the FA Cup Winners. If the league want an extra game then maybe 4th could have a play off with the FA Cup Winners for the final spot. At the moment the FA Cup is reduced to the value of the League Cup with the winners getting into the Europa League. So maybe this would also give a boost to the FA Cup. But a massive thumbs down to the overall play off idea for all of the reasons mentioned in the article. However it will be in the interests of every club who just hope for a top half finish to vote for the idea as it would give them an opportunity to grab the riches on offer. Those currently in the top 4 will obviously vote against it.
voiceoftheholte
17/02/2010 09:15:00
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Keep it as it is, a playoff to go into a qualifying round is pathetic, after managing to beat 2 teams in the playoff you then go out to some team from Andorra in the qualifier, UEFA would take England's 4th spot away so leave it as it is the best 4 teams represent.
young_jonah
17/02/2010 09:16:00
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Keep it as it is, a playoff to go into a qualifying round is pathetic, after managing to beat 2 teams in the playoff you then go out to some team from Andorra in the qualifier, UEFA would take England's 4th spot away so leave it as it is the best 4 teams represent.
young_jonah
17/02/2010 09:16:00
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stupid idea, ur hard work for an entire season can become uSELESs
jyocool
17/02/2010 09:46:00
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stupid idea, ur hard work for an entire season can become uSELESs
jyocool
17/02/2010 09:46:00
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As is plainly obvious (so far at least) on the poll, the idea of giving it to the FA cup winners, or somehow involving the FA cup has got to be the best one. It would give a new life to the FA cup, and still enable the possibility of other sides other than the traditional top 4 a crack at entering the competition.

However, looking at it from a cynical standpoint, I don't think that there is enough money to be made out of doing it this way, and unfortunately it tends to be the case that if the suits want more cash, they will find a way of making it - with this in mind, don't be too surprised if the proposal goes ahead.

The main counters are that it negates the whole point of working your arse off to finish up to 20 points ahead of those the next few places below you, and more destructively, could lose England its right to 4 CL spots, making everything worse than if the proposal was never put in place.
Gunnerman
17/02/2010 09:57:00
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As is plainly obvious (so far at least) on the poll, the idea of giving it to the FA cup winners, or somehow involving the FA cup has got to be the best one. It would give a new life to the FA cup, and still enable the possibility of other sides other than the traditional top 4 a crack at entering the competition.

However, looking at it from a cynical standpoint, I don't think that there is enough money to be made out of doing it this way, and unfortunately it tends to be the case that if the suits want more cash, they will find a way of making it - with this in mind, don't be too surprised if the proposal goes ahead.

The main counters are that it negates the whole point of working your arse off to finish up to 20 points ahead of those the next few places below you, and more destructively, could lose England its right to 4 CL spots, making everything worse than if the proposal was never put in place.
Gunnerman
17/02/2010 09:57:00
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