Vital Football

Latest Aston Villa News

Should CL Qualification Change? Have Your Say

Should CL Qualification Change? Have Your Say

Following on from the article yesterday about the new Champions League qualification proposals: Top 4 Won't Like New League Proposals - MON Does

we have had a poll suggested by villa_de

Should the qualification remain as it is? Should it be a play off between 4th and 5th? Should it be, as proposed, a play off between 4th - 7th?

Or should we be looking at adding the FA Cup or indeed both Cups (League Cup being the other) into the mix? It would then surely at least make it a 'champions' league then?

Have your say in the article comments, our forum thread: Click Here

And don't forget to vote!

What people are saying so far:

Gunnerman: Apparently Moyes isn't a fan of the idea - depends on the views of the rest of the league. I like the concept, but as has been debated on our forum I'm not convinced the idea has been properly thought through. It could end up in us losing our 4th champions league spot, putting the whole thing back to square 1.

The Fear: That was the only point against I could really come up with, as you say, we could potentially lose the 4th place if we do follow through, although I guess they'd only go ahead with the right permission. It is unfair in many ways, as are the play offs in the lower leagues, but on the flipside, they can be very exciting and might open things up a little.... Better way, as I've said numerous times in my CL rants, is to give the places to champions, so 1st in league, League Cup winners and FA Cup winners. Then maybe 2nd also. Used to be a competition for winners, now it is for also rans.

paul_ownz: Don't like the idea myself and not just because i am an Arsenal fan. In the last 3 seasons Blackburn, Bolton & fulham have finished 7th and had this proposal been in place could of seen them in Europe. I don't see how anyone would benefit from those teams being in the competition except fans of those clubs. The CL which already has a rubbish Group stage would add another(possible) couple of average/poor teams making it easier for the big teams to win it, We would eventually lose our 4th spot place because it works on co efficiencies etc. A better solution would be for the FA cup winners to go head to head with 4th spot.

claretandbluearmy: that's a bit shallow and selfish paul the big four are the big four because they get massive funds for champs League, who's to say Blackburn, Bolton and Fulham couldnt improve ther whole structure with that financial backing and become the new 'Arsenal' maybe?

Full comments: Top 4 Won't Like New League Proposals - MON Does

Also an interesting article about the same issue on Vital Chelsea, whose position is, as expected as one of the 'top four' a bit different to maybe many of ours: Click Here

JOIN UP and let us know what you think:
Join Vital Villa

It's easy to register for Vital Villa, simply click the link and enjoy getting involved! Message Board. To visit the Vital Villa message board, click here.

.


Bookmark and Share



Click here to join in the debate on the club forum.

Writer:J P Fear
Date:Wednesday February 17 2010
Time: 8:54AM

Comments

0
I have to say it smacks of overtures of greed by the Premier league. Not a fan of the idea, as it comes down to possibly 2 games to decide qualification. 4th place team could finish 20 points plus ahead of 7th place, have a bad game in play offs and bang goes the Champs League. Prem League just looking at more ways to line their already overstuffed pockets!!
Kuffit
17/02/2010 09:13:00
0
I have to say it smacks of overtures of greed by the Premier league. Not a fan of the idea, as it comes down to possibly 2 games to decide qualification. 4th place team could finish 20 points plus ahead of 7th place, have a bad game in play offs and bang goes the Champs League. Prem League just looking at more ways to line their already overstuffed pockets!!
Kuffit
17/02/2010 09:13:00
0
Couple of points. Champions League should just be for Champions. However as football is all about TV money that will never happen. If England has four qualifiers it should either be the top 4 or the top 3 and the FA Cup Winners. If the league want an extra game then maybe 4th could have a play off with the FA Cup Winners for the final spot. At the moment the FA Cup is reduced to the value of the League Cup with the winners getting into the Europa League. So maybe this would also give a boost to the FA Cup. But a massive thumbs down to the overall play off idea for all of the reasons mentioned in the article. However it will be in the interests of every club who just hope for a top half finish to vote for the idea as it would give them an opportunity to grab the riches on offer. Those currently in the top 4 will obviously vote against it.
voiceoftheholte
17/02/2010 09:15:00
0
Couple of points. Champions League should just be for Champions. However as football is all about TV money that will never happen. If England has four qualifiers it should either be the top 4 or the top 3 and the FA Cup Winners. If the league want an extra game then maybe 4th could have a play off with the FA Cup Winners for the final spot. At the moment the FA Cup is reduced to the value of the League Cup with the winners getting into the Europa League. So maybe this would also give a boost to the FA Cup. But a massive thumbs down to the overall play off idea for all of the reasons mentioned in the article. However it will be in the interests of every club who just hope for a top half finish to vote for the idea as it would give them an opportunity to grab the riches on offer. Those currently in the top 4 will obviously vote against it.
voiceoftheholte
17/02/2010 09:15:00
0
Keep it as it is, a playoff to go into a qualifying round is pathetic, after managing to beat 2 teams in the playoff you then go out to some team from Andorra in the qualifier, UEFA would take England's 4th spot away so leave it as it is the best 4 teams represent.
young_jonah
17/02/2010 09:16:00
0
Keep it as it is, a playoff to go into a qualifying round is pathetic, after managing to beat 2 teams in the playoff you then go out to some team from Andorra in the qualifier, UEFA would take England's 4th spot away so leave it as it is the best 4 teams represent.
young_jonah
17/02/2010 09:16:00
0
stupid idea, ur hard work for an entire season can become uSELESs
jyocool
17/02/2010 09:46:00
0
stupid idea, ur hard work for an entire season can become uSELESs
jyocool
17/02/2010 09:46:00
0
As is plainly obvious (so far at least) on the poll, the idea of giving it to the FA cup winners, or somehow involving the FA cup has got to be the best one. It would give a new life to the FA cup, and still enable the possibility of other sides other than the traditional top 4 a crack at entering the competition.

However, looking at it from a cynical standpoint, I don't think that there is enough money to be made out of doing it this way, and unfortunately it tends to be the case that if the suits want more cash, they will find a way of making it - with this in mind, don't be too surprised if the proposal goes ahead.

The main counters are that it negates the whole point of working your arse off to finish up to 20 points ahead of those the next few places below you, and more destructively, could lose England its right to 4 CL spots, making everything worse than if the proposal was never put in place.
Gunnerman
17/02/2010 09:57:00
0
As is plainly obvious (so far at least) on the poll, the idea of giving it to the FA cup winners, or somehow involving the FA cup has got to be the best one. It would give a new life to the FA cup, and still enable the possibility of other sides other than the traditional top 4 a crack at entering the competition.

However, looking at it from a cynical standpoint, I don't think that there is enough money to be made out of doing it this way, and unfortunately it tends to be the case that if the suits want more cash, they will find a way of making it - with this in mind, don't be too surprised if the proposal goes ahead.

The main counters are that it negates the whole point of working your arse off to finish up to 20 points ahead of those the next few places below you, and more destructively, could lose England its right to 4 CL spots, making everything worse than if the proposal was never put in place.
Gunnerman
17/02/2010 09:57:00
Page 1/3
  1. 1
  2. 2
  3. 3

Login to post a comment

Recent Aston Villa Articles

Aston Villa FA Cup 3rd Round Away To Spurs On BBC

The Official site have confirmed that Aston Villa`s FA Cup 3rd round game v Tottenham Hotspur at White Hart Lane will be screened on BBC.

An Interview With A Wigan Fan Ahead Of Villa Park Clash

An interview with Barry from Vital Wigan ahead of the weekends clash between Aston Villa and Wigan Athletic

The Xia Interview - Part 4 - Will He Sell Aston Villa?

The final part of our look at the Tony Xia interview. Will he build Aston Villa to sell it on?

Villa Fan (Opinion Piece) 5 Opponents I Hate

Juan Pablo Angel on the five opponents he hates!

Archived Vital Villa Articles

Vital Villa articles from

Site Journalists

J P Fear
Editor email
Profile
Mike Field
Editor email
Profile
Steve Wade
no email
Profile
Villa_Grizzly
no email
Profile
Turkish Penguin
no email
Profile
Glensider
no email
Profile
Chris Heath
no email
Profile
M Calucar
no email
Profile
JuanPablo Angel
no email
Profile

Current Poll (see more polls)

The Vital Villa Player Of November
Suggested By: JP Fear
Gollini9%
Hutton1%
Chester5%
Baker5%
Westwood2%
Amavi3%
Jedinak30%
Gardner1%
Grealish2%
Gestede1%
Kodjia33%
Adomah 5%
Ayew1%
Other2%
ScoopDragon Publishing Entire League Network of Sites

League Table

# Team P W D L Pts. GD
1 Newcastle 19 13 1 5 40 21
2 Brighton 19 11 6 2 39 17
3 Reading 19 10 4 5 34 1
4 Leeds Utd 19 10 2 7 32 3
5 Birmingham 19 8 7 4 31 2
6 Sheff Wed 19 9 4 6 31 1
7 Norwich 19 9 3 7 30 4
8 Huddersfield 19 9 3 7 30 -3
9 Derby County 19 8 5 6 29 4
10 Fulham 19 7 7 5 28 9
11 Bristol City 19 8 3 8 27 4
12 Barnsley 19 7 4 8 25 3
13 Forest 19 7 4 8 25 1
14 Preston 19 7 4 8 25 1
15 Aston Villa 19 5 10 4 25 1
16 Ipswich 19 6 6 7 24 -2
17 Q.P.R. 19 6 5 8 23 -8
18 Brentford 19 6 4 9 22 -2
19 Burton 19 5 7 7 22 -4
20 Wolves 19 5 6 8 21 -3
21 Blackburn 19 5 5 9 20 -7
22 Cardiff 19 5 4 10 19 -12
23 Wigan 19 4 6 9 18 -5
24 Rotherham 19 1 4 14 7 -26
Vital Football Comment
Latest F1 News
Straight fight between Wehrlein & Bottas for M
Latest Vital Boxing News
Groves to Fight Chudinov for WBA Title
Write for Vital Football

Recent Aston Villa Results (view all)

Aston Villa Fixtures (view all)

Dec 10 2016 3:00PM : Wigan Athletic (H)
Sky Bet Championship
Dec 13 2016 7:45PM : Norwich City (a)
Sky Bet Championship
Dec 18 2016 12:00PM : Queens Park Rangers (a)
Sky Bet Championship
Dec 26 2016 3:00PM : Burton Albion (H)
Sky Bet Championship
Dec 29 2016 7:45PM : Leeds United (H)
Sky Bet Championship
Jan 2 2017 3:00PM : Cardiff City (a)
Sky Bet Championship

Vital Members League Table

RankNamePoints
1.The Fear195
2.JuanPabloAngel124
3.HeathfieldRoad187493
4.sirdennis83
5.TuBBz70
6.BodyButter66
7.Stephen Jay Hawkings55
8.Wurzel47
9.DeanoVilla39
10.Melon Donkey32
The Vital Football Members League