Aston Villa News 24/7Writer: J P Fear 
Date:Monday February 15 2010
Time: 11:38AM
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Crystal Palace boss Neil Warnock wasn't best pleased with the linesman (sorry, assistant ref) after giving Villa a corner from which we scored. Replays later showed it was a goal kick. hey ho, tough breaks and when you are down it always seems you get kicked a little more!
He did however, in an interview in the Sun, admit that the replay is a good thing for cash strapped Palace financially.
'It's probably the best result for everybody – a nice payday. I can't see anybody whetting their appetite with Reading or West Brom away, can you?' Adding, 'We wanted to take them back there, to be honest. It would have been flat if we’d won and then got Reading or West Brom. Let's get up there then get on with the league. If they have a decent day and we don't, there's only one winner. Let's be honest. But we worked so hard.'
And on Villa, 'The quality they've got, you know that whatever they do we're in for a hard game. This game was worth £500,000. I can't see them not putting ours on the telly – who else is there, Stoke, Bolton, Reading?'
Martin O'Neill meanwhile said the draw was a fair result. 'With five or six minutes left in the game when we were trailing 2-1, I'm pretty pleased to be in the hat for the sixth round. I thought Crystal Palace played with a lot of determination and a lot of spirit, which I expected having seen them play against Wolves and I was hoping we would be able to respond to that. I think, for the most part, we did that. I thought we lost our way a bit in the second half after a pretty sprightly start and Crystal Palace got the goal to make it 2-1. It was a long way back after that.'
He also said that he thought Petrov was 'magnificent'
'We've got a replay in the week of the League Cup final, which is not ideal but it is preferable to not being in the tie. I think we would have to negotiate Burnley first of all. That is the next task next week. We will see how we come out of that game in terms of injuries and things like that, then I would see.'
He also said that Emile Heskey who was replaced with John Carew at half time came off because of an injury not tactics.
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just a quick note about the officials, and i use that word loosely, they should not be allowed to officiate any game above sunday league standard, warnock moans about the corner that shoudn't have been, fair enough, but in the 2nd half the number of offsides that he flagged against us, that were so clearly on side was laughable, and when we play gabby at home he will rip that second rate defence to pieces, thats if palace don't bring their own officials again!
eltoro
just a quick note about the officials, and i use that word loosely, they should not be allowed to officiate any game above sunday league standard, warnock moans about the corner that shoudn't have been, fair enough, but in the 2nd half the number of offsides that he flagged against us, that were so clearly on side was laughable, and when we play gabby at home he will rip that second rate defence to pieces, thats if palace don't bring their own officials again!
eltoro
eltoro, that is my view exactly.
We had at least two clear cut chances or possible one-on-one breakaways flagged WRONGLY for fictive offside.
And their first goal was illegal, the ball was not on the right place and their player elbowed Friedel just a second before he attempted to jump to clear the ball.
Majkee
eltoro, that is my view exactly.
We had at least two clear cut chances or possible one-on-one breakaways flagged WRONGLY for fictive offside.
And their first goal was illegal, the ball was not on the right place and their player elbowed Friedel just a second before he attempted to jump to clear the ball.
Majkee
I think there'd be far more merit in discussing the officials if there weren't more pressing issues at hand. For both Palace goals, Friedel was badly at fault. 5 years ago, he was a very good goalkeeper, but he is now 38, and if anything looks even older than that. He is terrible when coming for crosses, and the 'exceptional' saves he makes are virtually all saves that, did he not make them, he'd be rightly castigated for. And as for the offsides, I only noticed the Delfouneso one, and whilst the linesman was staggeringly inept, he was no more inpet than O'Neill has been in not giving an extremely talented player more playing time. The difference is that the linesman's error was an isolated mistake, whereas O'Neill's error is chronic. As spirited as Palace were yesterday, they didn't play particularly well, and one would expect that a full-strength Premiership side, and one of the better ones at that, would have been able to see off that quality of opposition. But then again, maybe the players were a bit tired, or in some instances not quite fully fit. But who's fault is that?!
Albarnista
I think there'd be far more merit in discussing the officials if there weren't more pressing issues at hand. For both Palace goals, Friedel was badly at fault. 5 years ago, he was a very good goalkeeper, but he is now 38, and if anything looks even older than that. He is terrible when coming for crosses, and the 'exceptional' saves he makes are virtually all saves that, did he not make them, he'd be rightly castigated for. And as for the offsides, I only noticed the Delfouneso one, and whilst the linesman was staggeringly inept, he was no more inpet than O'Neill has been in not giving an extremely talented player more playing time. The difference is that the linesman's error was an isolated mistake, whereas O'Neill's error is chronic. As spirited as Palace were yesterday, they didn't play particularly well, and one would expect that a full-strength Premiership side, and one of the better ones at that, would have been able to see off that quality of opposition. But then again, maybe the players were a bit tired, or in some instances not quite fully fit. But who's fault is that?!
Albarnista
Eh? Isn't Brad the top-rated keeper at the moment in terms of saves to shots ratio? According to Sky Sports he is with 81% of saves to shots!
The linesman and the ref were awful, woeful and tragic, but not as bad as Albarnista's agendarizing of a fantastic cup match in which BOTH sides can take credit for their role in it. We're riding high in the table, in our first final for nearly ten years and still going in the oldest and greatest knockout competition in the world. Anyone else quite happy with the way things are right now, because I am *****ing loving the ride!
Rawlie
Eh? Isn't Brad the top-rated keeper at the moment in terms of saves to shots ratio? According to Sky Sports he is with 81% of saves to shots!
The linesman and the ref were awful, woeful and tragic, but not as bad as Albarnista's agendarizing of a fantastic cup match in which BOTH sides can take credit for their role in it. We're riding high in the table, in our first final for nearly ten years and still going in the oldest and greatest knockout competition in the world. Anyone else quite happy with the way things are right now, because I am *****ing loving the ride!
Rawlie
OK, now I really am staggered. Anybody who only saw one dubious offside decision is either very poor at picking up what is going on in football matches or only admits to what suits him. As for criticising Brad Friedel for only making the saves he should, words fail me. How many other Villa fans on here agree with Albie's analysis of Friedel's worth? Perhaps we could do a poll to find out whether I'm mad or Albie is?
BobTheBuilder
OK, now I really am staggered. Anybody who only saw one dubious offside decision is either very poor at picking up what is going on in football matches or only admits to what suits him. As for criticising Brad Friedel for only making the saves he should, words fail me. How many other Villa fans on here agree with Albie's analysis of Friedel's worth? Perhaps we could do a poll to find out whether I'm mad or Albie is?
BobTheBuilder
AH THAT WAS IT! Was wrackign my brain today, there was a potential sending off for us (Warnock if he'd gone down as he was clearly elbowed in the face) and the one I couldn't remember was the off side, it was plain as day. Thanks Mr Builder sir!
The Fear
AH THAT WAS IT! Was wrackign my brain today, there was a potential sending off for us (Warnock if he'd gone down as he was clearly elbowed in the face) and the one I couldn't remember was the off side, it was plain as day. Thanks Mr Builder sir!
The Fear
There was another potential sending off as well Fear. In my opinion at least. It was when The Fonz came on and broke off racing over the half way line in a promising position when one of their players chopped him. Fair enough he was booked for it but he was no where near the ball and if that was another 20 yards up the pitch I don't think the ref would have had much choice.
JayVFC
There was another potential sending off as well Fear. In my opinion at least. It was when The Fonz came on and broke off racing over the half way line in a promising position when one of their players chopped him. Fair enough he was booked for it but he was no where near the ball and if that was another 20 yards up the pitch I don't think the ref would have had much choice.
JayVFC
Bobthebuilder, if I only admitted what suited me, I wouldn't have mentioned the Delfouneso offside. I only remember this one offside incident, possibly because it was the only clear-cut case, or possibly because my memory isn't great. As for Friedel's shortcomings, I believe my observations are perfectly valid. Granted, you wouldn't find Alan Hansen agreeing with me, but then this only strengthens my case given the tripe he consistently peddles. As for the earlier post quoting the statistic that he has the highest shot to save ration, I don't doubt it, but the stats can't account for how close the ball is to the keeper when he saves it. I would say that what is particularly telling about that statistic is that seemingly we've been exceptionally fortunate that opposing strikers have consistently failed to find the corners when they shoot. The fact is that, at 38 years of age, Friedel is no longer as agile as he was, and so it's not surprising that he struggles against efforts like Ambrose's on Sunday. What is worrying is that his decision making on crosses isn't better than it is, for this is a part of his game that should improve with age. But then maybe he hasn't come to terms with the limitations of his ageing frame.
Albarnista
Bobthebuilder, if I only admitted what suited me, I wouldn't have mentioned the Delfouneso offside. I only remember this one offside incident, possibly because it was the only clear-cut case, or possibly because my memory isn't great. As for Friedel's shortcomings, I believe my observations are perfectly valid. Granted, you wouldn't find Alan Hansen agreeing with me, but then this only strengthens my case given the tripe he consistently peddles. As for the earlier post quoting the statistic that he has the highest shot to save ration, I don't doubt it, but the stats can't account for how close the ball is to the keeper when he saves it. I would say that what is particularly telling about that statistic is that seemingly we've been exceptionally fortunate that opposing strikers have consistently failed to find the corners when they shoot. The fact is that, at 38 years of age, Friedel is no longer as agile as he was, and so it's not surprising that he struggles against efforts like Ambrose's on Sunday. What is worrying is that his decision making on crosses isn't better than it is, for this is a part of his game that should improve with age. But then maybe he hasn't come to terms with the limitations of his ageing frame.
Albarnista
What bizarre comments! Excuse me whilst I go and print my Team Bob t-shirt because I really cannot see where Albie is coming from at all! I personally think Friedel has been solid this season - look back at the last few premier league games, 8 clean sheets in the last 11 matches! I don't think his age is affecting him at all.
AVFC4ME
What bizarre comments! Excuse me whilst I go and print my Team Bob t-shirt because I really cannot see where Albie is coming from at all! I personally think Friedel has been solid this season - look back at the last few premier league games, 8 clean sheets in the last 11 matches! I don't think his age is affecting him at all.
AVFC4ME
Friedel has been excellent in every game he's played this season....honestly...I can talk some c*** myself, but Albarnista....what planet are you on ?
MASON_PARKER
Friedel has been excellent in every game he's played this season....honestly...I can talk some c*** myself, but Albarnista....what planet are you on ?
MASON_PARKER
Yay - go go go Team Bob! :o)
BobTheBuilder
Yay - go go go Team Bob! :o)
BobTheBuilder
Albie is right guys. Friedels consistent clean sheets, quality saves, commanding presence behind the back four makes him poor. He let in two goals and should be criticised highly and his age questioned......GET REAL. He is top. Better than Sorensen, more consistent than James and as reliable as Van der Saar.
koolbill
Albie is right guys. Friedels consistent clean sheets, quality saves, commanding presence behind the back four makes him poor. He let in two goals and should be criticised highly and his age questioned......GET REAL. He is top. Better than Sorensen, more consistent than James and as reliable as Van der Saar.
koolbill
Albie is right guys. Friedels consistent clean sheets, quality saves, commanding presence behind the back four makes him poor. He let in two goals and should be criticised highly and his age questioned......GET REAL. He is top. Better than Sorensen, more consistent than James and as reliable as Van der Saar.
koolbill
Albie is right guys. Friedels consistent clean sheets, quality saves, commanding presence behind the back four makes him poor. He let in two goals and should be criticised highly and his age questioned......GET REAL. He is top. Better than Sorensen, more consistent than James and as reliable as Van der Saar.
koolbill
Team Bob rules..they're like Team Glee but kooler becuase I'm in it.
koolbill
because*
koolbill
Team Bob rules..they're like Team Glee but kooler becuase I'm in it.
koolbill
because*
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