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Carling Cup Is Just The Start

Stan Collymore believes that Villa's Carling cup Final appearance should be considered merely the start of our success.

Speaking to the Press Association (I assume as the quotes are everywhere) former Villan Stan believes that Villa's youngsters will gain the necessary experience in the Cup Final against Manchester United to start a period of our own domination, much in the way Man U themselves benefited from Scholes, Giggs etc tasting the glory and gaining such experiences earlier in their careers.

Commenting that not only is Martin O'Neill the right man to lead us to Trophy glory, and purely fantastic that Villa have reached the final he says:

'The game with United should be regarded as just the start for Villa. They will benefit enormously from walking into the Wembley dressing room and being involved in such a big occasion.'

Collymore really believes that this is the beginning and says he expects the club and the group of players we have to become 'accustomed' to reaching Cup Finals in future seasons, as once they have the taste of glory like this, not a single one of the players won't want to taste it again and give their all to achieve it again.

On Monny specifically, he's full of praise:

'O'Neill won the cup twice at Leicester and he will know exactly how to prepare for the final. I remember the way Martin motivated the players.'

I'm not convinced we are at the stage where a single appearance will be the catalyst for us to become 'accustomed' to Cup Finals, I think we should just enjoy it for what it is at the moment, but that said there's no doubt in the fact that whether we win or lose, the experience for the younger members of our team will be invaluable as we continue to move forward.

Whether it's enough of a taste of success to kick us to the next level, the next 18 months will tell, but we are moving in the right direction.

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Writer: Mike Field Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Wednesday February 3 2010

Time: 12:03PM

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Fear, before you check your emails, i'm in! gave it a few minutes and presto. anyways - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCr-AgyORi0&feature=fvw - A must-watch for ANY Villa fan and news that Colin Davies will have a Wembley song ready before this Saturday. Come on the Villa boys - it's your round..
benji_starsky_avfc
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03/02/2010 14:49:00

Fear, before you check your emails, i'm in! gave it a few minutes and presto. anyways - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCr-AgyORi0&feature=fvw - A must-watch for ANY Villa fan and news that Colin Davies will have a Wembley song ready before this Saturday. Come on the Villa boys - it's your round..
benji_starsky_avfc
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03/02/2010 14:49:00

Taking nothing away from your great run to the final, I'm getting the impression that Collymore is overreacting.Carling Cup Final does not equal Premiership domination a la Manchester United. We've learned that the hard way.
DubaiSpur
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03/02/2010 14:50:00

Taking nothing away from your great run to the final, I'm getting the impression that Collymore is overreacting.Carling Cup Final does not equal Premiership domination a la Manchester United. We've learned that the hard way.
DubaiSpur
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03/02/2010 14:50:00

I am going out on a limb here, but Villa will win the league under MON. I am willing to stake my rather dubious and sullied reputatuon on it.
General Disarray
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03/02/2010 19:05:00

I am going out on a limb here, but Villa will win the league under MON. I am willing to stake my rather dubious and sullied reputatuon on it.
General Disarray
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03/02/2010 19:05:00

lol Villa will win the league under MON If thats true looks like we got MON for a very long time aha
Blitz
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03/02/2010 20:21:00

lol Villa will win the league under MON If thats true looks like we got MON for a very long time aha
Blitz
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03/02/2010 20:21:00

I'd love to make top four just to see who MON buys in the transfer window....championship players?
los_angeles_villan
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04/02/2010 02:00:00

I'd love to make top four just to see who MON buys in the transfer window....championship players?
los_angeles_villan
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04/02/2010 02:00:00

Couldn't agree any more Vital - Stan has def gone over the top then. We're in the final but even that (i might get shouted down for this, but sorry!) is nothing unless we win ~ let us prepare well for the game by knocking out Palace and progressing in the biggest club competition in the world - now that would be serious progress!!!

Villa are progressing really well under our leadership team, O'Neil and some solid senior players, however I still think to get to the next stage we need a world class player ala what the top 4 all have, just not sure O'Neil will get that for us, but fingers are crossed that we win the cup and then success breeds success (or something like that!) :-) UTV
davidsands1982
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04/02/2010 10:38:00

Couldn't agree any more Vital - Stan has def gone over the top then. We're in the final but even that (i might get shouted down for this, but sorry!) is nothing unless we win ~ let us prepare well for the game by knocking out Palace and progressing in the biggest club competition in the world - now that would be serious progress!!!

Villa are progressing really well under our leadership team, O'Neil and some solid senior players, however I still think to get to the next stage we need a world class player ala what the top 4 all have, just not sure O'Neil will get that for us, but fingers are crossed that we win the cup and then success breeds success (or something like that!) :-) UTV
davidsands1982
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04/02/2010 10:38:00

Glass half full?. We have been making steady (and sometimes frustrating of course) progress under MON since he arrived which has gained us a league cup final place/5th round of the FA. Cup and still throwing our weight around in the league. IF we continue progressing at this rate then we will see finals again. It's undeniable that the players visiting Wembley for the first time in a professional context (most of them) will gain huge experience from the whole day.
magicmerson
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04/02/2010 12:10:00

Glass half full?. We have been making steady (and sometimes frustrating of course) progress under MON since he arrived which has gained us a league cup final place/5th round of the FA. Cup and still throwing our weight around in the league. IF we continue progressing at this rate then we will see finals again. It's undeniable that the players visiting Wembley for the first time in a professional context (most of them) will gain huge experience from the whole day.
magicmerson
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04/02/2010 12:10:00

Well F sitting on the fence, I'm gonna go with Stan on World domination from here LOL!
magicmerson
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04/02/2010 12:11:00

Well F sitting on the fence, I'm gonna go with Stan on World domination from here LOL!
magicmerson
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04/02/2010 12:11:00

Pity Stan didn't show more faith in the Villa when he was playing for us .
Doug4ever
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04/02/2010 13:06:00

Pity Stan didn't show more faith in the Villa when he was playing for us .
Doug4ever
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04/02/2010 13:06:00

Notice that the so-called 'top four' do have great players that allowed them to stay in the championsleague spots (Gerrard, Fabrigas, Rooney, Drogba) but when they were signed they were not world class. Look also at Ronaldo, he was nowhere near the player he is now when he first signed for united. They all grew into those roles. Maybe villa have that player already and he is not yet fully developed, so signing some big name is not the solution. We must keep doing what we are doing and someone will come through the ranks, maybe milner, ash, downing, we have yet to see. The only exception i can think of is torres, and look at how many players benitez had to go through to find him and there finacial position. Signing big names in not the way forward, u buy cheaper and develop them
overlooked_villan
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04/02/2010 13:48:00

Notice that the so-called 'top four' do have great players that allowed them to stay in the championsleague spots (Gerrard, Fabrigas, Rooney, Drogba) but when they were signed they were not world class. Look also at Ronaldo, he was nowhere near the player he is now when he first signed for united. They all grew into those roles. Maybe villa have that player already and he is not yet fully developed, so signing some big name is not the solution. We must keep doing what we are doing and someone will come through the ranks, maybe milner, ash, downing, we have yet to see. The only exception i can think of is torres, and look at how many players benitez had to go through to find him and there finacial position. Signing big names in not the way forward, u buy cheaper and develop them
overlooked_villan
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04/02/2010 13:48:00

Good point overlooked_villan, and fair enough. Drogba was a huge signing, Gerrard is a 1 in a 1000 class player, from the age of 15 everyone knew Rooney had 'it' and still cost Utd 30million, I would agree Ronaldo and Fabrigas especially were developed. As much as I hate Wenger, he must be the best scout ever, just keeps finding these players.

My point is villa don't have this scout, O'neil won't look outside of the UK (which i love by the way) but this does serverly restrict our pool of potential players. I don't want us to do a Chelsea or Citeh but strongly believe if we are to do what Stan is saying either we have to start showing faith in the likes of the Fonz or buy, as no one can argue, we simply son't score enough goals!
davidsands1982
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04/02/2010 14:56:00

Good point overlooked_villan, and fair enough. Drogba was a huge signing, Gerrard is a 1 in a 1000 class player, from the age of 15 everyone knew Rooney had 'it' and still cost Utd 30million, I would agree Ronaldo and Fabrigas especially were developed. As much as I hate Wenger, he must be the best scout ever, just keeps finding these players.

My point is villa don't have this scout, O'neil won't look outside of the UK (which i love by the way) but this does serverly restrict our pool of potential players. I don't want us to do a Chelsea or Citeh but strongly believe if we are to do what Stan is saying either we have to start showing faith in the likes of the Fonz or buy, as no one can argue, we simply son't score enough goals!
davidsands1982
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