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Ok, Who Doesn't Think Monny Is Delighted?

The official verdict isn't out yet on the OS, but Sky are carrying their interview with him on SSN, so I'll use that instead.

Speaking to Sky Sports News (bet you didn't see that coming) Monny has obviously hailed the performance and determination of the squad to fightback from 2-0 down within the first 30 minutes in tonight's match, and secure ourselves a place in the Carling Cup Final with an end of match score of 6-4. (7-4 on aggregate, although why it's different if you are on gravel I don't know).

'I am absolutely delighted, it has been a big effort. We fought back fantastically and deserved to go through over the two legs.'

Whilst Sam Allardyce in his interview with the BBC directly after the match seemed more concerned with rubbishing the referee for letting us back into the match and finding excuses, instead of praising his players for being part of one of the best semi finals ever, O'Neill chose his words carefully and simply reminded Sam of the first leg.

'We could have been well ahead in this tie if the referee had made the decision for us in the first game.'

Specifically referencing the handball in the box to which Blackburn received the freekick, and the blatant foul on Gabby in the box, to which he received a yellow card.

Yup, O'Neill won the battle of which Ref was crap during the two legs aswell.

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Writer: Mike Field Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Wednesday January 20 2010

Time: 11:20PM

Your Comments

Big Sam wasn't complaining with the pens not given to us last week was he?!
The Fear
Big Sam wasn't complaining with the pens not given to us last week was he?!
The Fear
Really don't like that guy Big Sam....championship manager he is.
los_angeles_villan
Really don't like that guy Big Sam....championship manager he is.
los_angeles_villan
I really can't stand him. He's now my most hated manager in the league along with Benitez and Ferguson. http://www.rovers.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10303~1939168,00.html?
los_angeles_villan
I really can't stand him. He's now my most hated manager in the league along with Benitez and Ferguson. http://www.rovers.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10303~1939168,00.html?
los_angeles_villan
The standard of refereeing in the two legs shouldn't be the talking point for us Villa fans. Let the Blackburn fans complain, as they aren't going to Wembley. What should concern us as Villa fans is the utter tripe being served up by Martin O'Neill. Over the two legs, it was Blakcburn who, despite operating on a shoestring budget, and despite being managed by 'Long-ball Sam', played the better football. And Martin O'Neill thinks this side of his is the best footballing side we've had for 20 years?? (Interesting that he chooses the figure of 20 years by the way. 20 years ago, our manager was Graham Taylor, and much as I respect the guys achievements at Villa (which, by the way, far outshine O'Neill's), GT's brand of football wasn't the most aesthetically pleasing, even if it was successful.) Having witnessed the fruits of O'Neill's labour, I've concluded that this Villa team can beat anyone. And the reason is not that O'Neill has methodically, and expertly, crafted a good team with Lerner's money. Give a monkey enough time and he'll manage to type out a Shakespearean tragedy. Give a Monny enough money, and he'll assemble a comedy football team. No, the reason we can beat anyone is that O'Neill is the luckiest manager alive. He's proven it by dispatching a superior side in the semi-finals of the League Cup, and he may well prove it when his Villa team beat either one of the sides from Manchester, not withstanding the fact that both are on an entirely different planet to O'Neill's boys. Some, if not all, who read this will simply say, Who cares if we're crap? We're going to Wem-ber-ley!!! Winning is all that matters. Well, even if O'Neill's luck holds (and history suggests it may not; last season's 4th place p*ssed up the wall anyone?), and we do win a League Cup, what's it worth when it's purely down to dumb luck? Come to think of it, 'dumb' and 'lucky' are two words that describe O'Neill very well. But not as well as 'embarassment'. As in, he's an embarassment to this great club, and an embarassment to football. And given what an astronomically devalued currency football is these days, that's quite some achievement. I really wish I could cease caring about Aston Villa FC, at least until we're rid of this awful man, and damn you for making me think that Martin O'Neill! Damn you, and your breathtaking ignorance and ineptitude!
Albarnista
The standard of refereeing in the two legs shouldn't be the talking point for us Villa fans. Let the Blackburn fans complain, as they aren't going to Wembley. What should concern us as Villa fans is the utter tripe being served up by Martin O'Neill. Over the two legs, it was Blakcburn who, despite operating on a shoestring budget, and despite being managed by 'Long-ball Sam', played the better football. And Martin O'Neill thinks this side of his is the best footballing side we've had for 20 years?? (Interesting that he chooses the figure of 20 years by the way. 20 years ago, our manager was Graham Taylor, and much as I respect the guys achievements at Villa (which, by the way, far outshine O'Neill's), GT's brand of football wasn't the most aesthetically pleasing, even if it was successful.) Having witnessed the fruits of O'Neill's labour, I've concluded that this Villa team can beat anyone. And the reason is not that O'Neill has methodically, and expertly, crafted a good team with Lerner's money. Give a monkey enough time and he'll manage to type out a Shakespearean tragedy. Give a Monny enough money, and he'll assemble a comedy football team. No, the reason we can beat anyone is that O'Neill is the luckiest manager alive. He's proven it by dispatching a superior side in the semi-finals of the League Cup, and he may well prove it when his Villa team beat either one of the sides from Manchester, not withstanding the fact that both are on an entirely different planet to O'Neill's boys. Some, if not all, who read this will simply say, Who cares if we're crap? We're going to Wem-ber-ley!!! Winning is all that matters. Well, even if O'Neill's luck holds (and history suggests it may not; last season's 4th place p*ssed up the wall anyone?), and we do win a League Cup, what's it worth when it's purely down to dumb luck? Come to think of it, 'dumb' and 'lucky' are two words that describe O'Neill very well. But not as well as 'embarassment'. As in, he's an embarassment to this great club, and an embarassment to football. And given what an astronomically devalued currency football is these days, that's quite some achievement. I really wish I could cease caring about Aston Villa FC, at least until we're rid of this awful man, and damn you for making me think that Martin O'Neill! Damn you, and your breathtaking ignorance and ineptitude!
Albarnista
Have a look at yourself Albarnista.
lorenzo
Have a look at yourself Albarnista.
lorenzo
Albarnista must be an anagram of something i guess.
Bangkok Villan
Albarnista must be an anagram of something i guess.
Bangkok Villan
anal stabir ..never been good with gramma
Doug4ever
anal stabir ..never been good with gramma
Doug4ever
Albarnista, pee on the parade why dont you! I wondered when the positivity would end and true to your colours, here you are. I am a fan of the club whatever and today we celebrate our accent to wembley in search of silverware. You my friend must look at yourself as there is no glory in your world! Manic depressive?? seek help child, seek help. UTV.
holte ender 1969
Albarnista, pee on the parade why dont you! I wondered when the positivity would end and true to your colours, here you are. I am a fan of the club whatever and today we celebrate our accent to wembley in search of silverware. You my friend must look at yourself as there is no glory in your world! Manic depressive?? seek help child, seek help. UTV.
holte ender 1969
now im not one for geting into arguements on here especially with a fellow villan but albarnista shut up you idiot. are you a villan or a blue-nose?
black_villian
now im not one for geting into arguements on here especially with a fellow villan but albarnista shut up you idiot. are you a villan or a blue-nose?
black_villian
Jeez Albarnista, you're a bundle of laughs aint ya? I'd give the Samaritans a bell if I were you. The club has just reached Wembley for the first time since 2000, yet rather than savour the moment you see fit to rain on the parade. Lighten up man. Sure, you're entitled to your opinions, but I would have to suggest that you're one sad and bitter individual, to pen crap such as that on the very day that this great club of ours is celebrating such a positive victory. The club is moving forward, maybe not as quickly as you, or others like you would like, but seriously man, you need to take a real look at yourself after coming up with that contribution to the front page of Vital Villa.
glensider
Jeez Albarnista, you're a bundle of laughs aint ya? I'd give the Samaritans a bell if I were you. The club has just reached Wembley for the first time since 2000, yet rather than savour the moment you see fit to rain on the parade. Lighten up man. Sure, you're entitled to your opinions, but I would have to suggest that you're one sad and bitter individual, to pen crap such as that on the very day that this great club of ours is celebrating such a positive victory. The club is moving forward, maybe not as quickly as you, or others like you would like, but seriously man, you need to take a real look at yourself after coming up with that contribution to the front page of Vital Villa.
glensider
I've been a Villa fan since birth (1951) and have seen a few ups and downs over the years. I don't care if people call me names, but I think albarnista makes good points under his plain hatred for MON. MON has plenty of flaws which when we win like we did last night. At the same time MON has taken us from a bottom half team to a regular top 6 team and albarnista is wrong when he says a monkey could do that given enough time. BUT, MON drives me crazy with his team selection (anyone can make mistakes in signing players) - why Cuellar not Luke Young?? We gave goals away because of Cuellar being played out of position. Why bring on Sidwell instead of Reo-Coker?? Why not rest Gabby towards the end (he was getting nowhere) and bring on (even though he is a lazy waster) Carew? MON gives every impression of being a stubborn tw*t who would rather lose games than admit he'swrong by changing the team. None of this, though, takes away from a great performance from those on the pitch. And we got lucky. I'm not complaining about Mon, but he is certainly not perfect. Soooo happy to be at Wembley. Regardless of MON's frustrating decisions this is a good time to be a Villa fan. Please can we beat Manure in the final. I think Citeh are looking strong at the moment and would raise themselves for the final. United, however are a spent force and we could take them.
144wittonlane
I've been a Villa fan since birth (1951) and have seen a few ups and downs over the years. I don't care if people call me names, but I think albarnista makes good points under his plain hatred for MON. MON has plenty of flaws which when we win like we did last night. At the same time MON has taken us from a bottom half team to a regular top 6 team and albarnista is wrong when he says a monkey could do that given enough time. BUT, MON drives me crazy with his team selection (anyone can make mistakes in signing players) - why Cuellar not Luke Young?? We gave goals away because of Cuellar being played out of position. Why bring on Sidwell instead of Reo-Coker?? Why not rest Gabby towards the end (he was getting nowhere) and bring on (even though he is a lazy waster) Carew? MON gives every impression of being a stubborn tw*t who would rather lose games than admit he'swrong by changing the team. None of this, though, takes away from a great performance from those on the pitch. And we got lucky. I'm not complaining about Mon, but he is certainly not perfect. Soooo happy to be at Wembley. Regardless of MON's frustrating decisions this is a good time to be a Villa fan. Please can we beat Manure in the final. I think Citeh are looking strong at the moment and would raise themselves for the final. United, however are a spent force and we could take them.
144wittonlane
Bum! Missed out words. Brain quicker than fingers (but the fingers are catching up as I get older) '...which get overlooked when we win like we did last night.'
144wittonlane
Bum! Missed out words. Brain quicker than fingers (but the fingers are catching up as I get older) '...which get overlooked when we win like we did last night.'
144wittonlane
I don't know what Allardyce is on about personally, I mean there were a few contentious decisions that went against us in the first match. On top of the fact that "if" the two goals that he said shouldn't stand were disallowed... we'd still be going to Wembley because a draw was enough to send us through!
UpTheHolte
I don't know what Allardyce is on about personally, I mean there were a few contentious decisions that went against us in the first match. On top of the fact that "if" the two goals that he said shouldn't stand were disallowed... we'd still be going to Wembley because a draw was enough to send us through!
UpTheHolte
144Wittonlane, neither NRC or Carew were on the bench last night. Though your point about substitutes is valid.
AMS78
144Wittonlane, neither NRC or Carew were on the bench last night. Though your point about substitutes is valid.
AMS78
understand some of the points Albarnista but surely not the time when we've just made a final? I'm just happy, would have been happy with a 0-0 and if nothing else, you can't say last night wasn't edge of your seat stuff which is something we have lacked for a good decade or so at Villa. Happy days, yes there are areas to improve but right now, I'm just smiling from ear to ear!
The Fear
understand some of the points Albarnista but surely not the time when we've just made a final? I'm just happy, would have been happy with a 0-0 and if nothing else, you can't say last night wasn't edge of your seat stuff which is something we have lacked for a good decade or so at Villa. Happy days, yes there are areas to improve but right now, I'm just smiling from ear to ear!
The Fear
Yes Albarnista you are 100% correct. Everything we've achieved under MON has been down to luck. So was everything under Saunders, Barton, Atkinson and Little. Lucky wins, all of them.... Come to think of it, William McGregor was lucky to achieve what he did and was indeed very lucky to invent the football league (perhaps there should be a plaque next to his statue indicating such), Randy Lerner was lucky to buy Villa, Charlie Aitken was lucky to play 640 games and Paul McGrath was lucky that he was so good. Moron!!! (sorry Fear)
gmvillan
Yes Albarnista you are 100% correct. Everything we've achieved under MON has been down to luck. So was everything under Saunders, Barton, Atkinson and Little. Lucky wins, all of them.... Come to think of it, William McGregor was lucky to achieve what he did and was indeed very lucky to invent the football league (perhaps there should be a plaque next to his statue indicating such), Randy Lerner was lucky to buy Villa, Charlie Aitken was lucky to play 640 games and Paul McGrath was lucky that he was so good. Moron!!! (sorry Fear)
gmvillan
Ah yes, AMS78, that'll teach me to not get so excited whilst typing and trying eat my cornflakes at the same time! I was making a general point about selection and got carried away. Why Sidwell ever? Can't understand why we keep an excellent right back on the bench and play a slower central defender who gets caught out of position and can only hoof it upfield? At least we played Heskey and not Carew (surely he's not being rested, he hardly gets up to speed - he just leans into a run and his feet catch up a few minutes later). Again at risk of being unpopular, Heskey was a decent midefield link-up player last night - his distribution both halves was good - and I would have him on the pitch anytime rather than Carew. We need a *proper* striker to play with him though. Not sure what Gabby is turning into other than a fast decoy to draw players towards him. When Gabby gets the ball anything could happen - I'm not sure even Gabby knows what he's going to do with it! Still smiling at result! What will happen to us in the prem is a concern to me though.
144wittonlane
Ah yes, AMS78, that'll teach me to not get so excited whilst typing and trying eat my cornflakes at the same time! I was making a general point about selection and got carried away. Why Sidwell ever? Can't understand why we keep an excellent right back on the bench and play a slower central defender who gets caught out of position and can only hoof it upfield? At least we played Heskey and not Carew (surely he's not being rested, he hardly gets up to speed - he just leans into a run and his feet catch up a few minutes later). Again at risk of being unpopular, Heskey was a decent midefield link-up player last night - his distribution both halves was good - and I would have him on the pitch anytime rather than Carew. We need a *proper* striker to play with him though. Not sure what Gabby is turning into other than a fast decoy to draw players towards him. When Gabby gets the ball anything could happen - I'm not sure even Gabby knows what he's going to do with it! Still smiling at result! What will happen to us in the prem is a concern to me though.
144wittonlane
We were so lucky to score six goals!! 144witton - didn't think Emile was that great, thought he looked lost when he had the ball sometimes - lacks confidence. Hopefully a goal will help with this. Good on you MON for getting us to Wembley. Be nice to see a changed team for Saturday. Up the Villa.
Mutley73
We were so lucky to score six goals!! 144witton - didn't think Emile was that great, thought he looked lost when he had the ball sometimes - lacks confidence. Hopefully a goal will help with this. Good on you MON for getting us to Wembley. Be nice to see a changed team for Saturday. Up the Villa.
Mutley73
gmvillan, it beggars belief that you would compare Martin O'Neill to that group of great men. Saunders won a League (and at least one League Cup and possibly another), Barton won a European Cup, and Big Ron and Brian Little won a league cup each, guided us to higher finishes in the league than O'Neill has, and produced the kind of football O'Neill has neither the wit nor imagination to even dream of. And what exactly has O'Neill achieved? Sixth place in the league, and, after just shy of four years, a League Cup final. Middlesbourough, Bolton, Blackburn, Wigan and even Blowse have made the final within the last ten years. And ten years ago exactly, even Tranmere got there, narrowly losing to that phenomenally impressive Leicester side that O'Neill built... That's right, one of the pillars upon which O'Neill's reputation is built is a League Cup win against lower league opposition. And blow me if Tranmere weren't robbed! The wonders of wikipedia! A Tranmere defender sent off for fouling a player who was well offside! So, gmvillan, as someone well aware of this clubs history, I am disgusted that you should come out with such drivel. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and put your comments down to the euphoria of going to Wembley, just to show what a nice guy I am.
Albarnista
gmvillan, it beggars belief that you would compare Martin O'Neill to that group of great men. Saunders won a League (and at least one League Cup and possibly another), Barton won a European Cup, and Big Ron and Brian Little won a league cup each, guided us to higher finishes in the league than O'Neill has, and produced the kind of football O'Neill has neither the wit nor imagination to even dream of. And what exactly has O'Neill achieved? Sixth place in the league, and, after just shy of four years, a League Cup final. Middlesbourough, Bolton, Blackburn, Wigan and even Blowse have made the final within the last ten years. And ten years ago exactly, even Tranmere got there, narrowly losing to that phenomenally impressive Leicester side that O'Neill built... That's right, one of the pillars upon which O'Neill's reputation is built is a League Cup win against lower league opposition. And blow me if Tranmere weren't robbed! The wonders of wikipedia! A Tranmere defender sent off for fouling a player who was well offside! So, gmvillan, as someone well aware of this clubs history, I am disgusted that you should come out with such drivel. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and put your comments down to the euphoria of going to Wembley, just to show what a nice guy I am.
Albarnista
Thanks for your words 144wittonlane, even if we don't actually agree on a few points. The main one being that a monkey could do better. Clearly I don't believe that an actual monkey would do better than O'Neill - though on many occasions I seriously wonder. But just take a look at Kalinic, who though hardly setting the world alight this season, nevertheless showed in these two legs genuine quality, and confirms that Allardyce can pick a striker. (Let's not forget he also signed Anelka for Bolton.) In four years, O'Neill has signed three (!) strikers, paying money for two. In order, they are Harewood, Carew and Heskey. Given 100m over four years, imagine the team Allardyce might build. And Allardyce isn't the only one who I'm absolutely convinced would do a better job than O'Neill has. Managers who have achieved top six positions in the Premiership in the past ten years with far less help than O'Neill include:
Albarnista
Thanks for your words 144wittonlane, even if we don't actually agree on a few points. The main one being that a monkey could do better. Clearly I don't believe that an actual monkey would do better than O'Neill - though on many occasions I seriously wonder. But just take a look at Kalinic, who though hardly setting the world alight this season, nevertheless showed in these two legs genuine quality, and confirms that Allardyce can pick a striker. (Let's not forget he also signed Anelka for Bolton.) In four years, O'Neill has signed three (!) strikers, paying money for two. In order, they are Harewood, Carew and Heskey. Given 100m over four years, imagine the team Allardyce might build. And Allardyce isn't the only one who I'm absolutely convinced would do a better job than O'Neill has. Managers who have achieved top six positions in the Premiership in the past ten years with far less help than O'Neill include:
Albarnista
Don't get sucked in people, fact - You will never see Albarnista and Adrian Durham in the same room - attention seeker
sixfoottwoeyesofblue
Don't get sucked in people, fact - You will never see Albarnista and Adrian Durham in the same room - attention seeker
sixfoottwoeyesofblue
George Burley with Ipswich, Sam Allardyce with Bolton, Graeme Souness and Mark Hughes with Blackburn, and David Moyes with Everton - and he has actually reached the heady heights of 5th, and even 4th! And this doesn't include O'Leary finishing sixth with us. Then there are the managers who've done excellent jobs at provincial clubs that have no right in finishing in the top half of the Premiership. There would be about a dozen of these managers, and it's in this bracket that O'Neill belongs. Small, provincial clubs with limited resources. Not the fourth most successful club in English history, who have also lifted Europe's biggest trophy, and who have a wealthy owner who is perfectly happy to provide 'significant funds' in the transfer market. I can produce all the fancy arguments you like, but honestly there is no need. Open your eyes, look at the football we play, and look at the results we get, which are hardly impressive even before you consider how remarkably lucky O'Neill seems to be. But then again there seem to be far too many Villa fans who ARE impressed by sixth place in the lauded Premier League, which to my mind is symptomatic of a failiure to appreciate just what a great club Villa once was, and could be again.
Albarnista
George Burley with Ipswich, Sam Allardyce with Bolton, Graeme Souness and Mark Hughes with Blackburn, and David Moyes with Everton - and he has actually reached the heady heights of 5th, and even 4th! And this doesn't include O'Leary finishing sixth with us. Then there are the managers who've done excellent jobs at provincial clubs that have no right in finishing in the top half of the Premiership. There would be about a dozen of these managers, and it's in this bracket that O'Neill belongs. Small, provincial clubs with limited resources. Not the fourth most successful club in English history, who have also lifted Europe's biggest trophy, and who have a wealthy owner who is perfectly happy to provide 'significant funds' in the transfer market. I can produce all the fancy arguments you like, but honestly there is no need. Open your eyes, look at the football we play, and look at the results we get, which are hardly impressive even before you consider how remarkably lucky O'Neill seems to be. But then again there seem to be far too many Villa fans who ARE impressed by sixth place in the lauded Premier League, which to my mind is symptomatic of a failiure to appreciate just what a great club Villa once was, and could be again.
Albarnista
Harsh, albarnista. So, who do you want as Villa manager (realistically, not an impossible wish list)? And what players would you 9again realistically) like to see at the club? You come across as an extremely frustrated genuine fan, but heaping criticism on what the club is at them moment (like it or lump it) without some positive suggestions is a hard read. I agree with you about the type of football we play. I have Gooner and Manure mates and when the banter subsides the truth is the Villa are not in the same league. It's not just about winning. It's about being the best, and that's more than just winning.
144wittonlane
Harsh, albarnista. So, who do you want as Villa manager (realistically, not an impossible wish list)? And what players would you 9again realistically) like to see at the club? You come across as an extremely frustrated genuine fan, but heaping criticism on what the club is at them moment (like it or lump it) without some positive suggestions is a hard read. I agree with you about the type of football we play. I have Gooner and Manure mates and when the banter subsides the truth is the Villa are not in the same league. It's not just about winning. It's about being the best, and that's more than just winning.
144wittonlane
Who cares about albarnista? I sure don't.
los_angeles_villan
Who cares about albarnista? I sure don't.
los_angeles_villan
All depends on how high you set your sights I guess. For an improvement on O'Neill, you wouldn't have to look far at all. For a genuinely top quality manager, I don't believe I'm best placed to say, as I believe you need to sit down and talk seriously with a guy before you know whether he'll be right for the job. However, off the top of my head, one manager who would be a substantial improvement on O'Neill, and who is actually out of work at the moment, is Mark Hughes. Made predominantly excellent signings, and City played good football. Always struck me as being a (relatively) decent, honourable man as well. But if you think about it, why wouldn't someone like Mourinho be unrealistic? Italian football is a backwater, and I get the impression that he's ready to leave as soon as an interesting offer comes in. Martin O'Neill has had substantial funds, and free reign to run the club as he sees fit. It wouldn't surprise me if Mourinho wasn't the only manager who looks at O'Neill's hand with green eyes. Green eyes and a barely suppressed s******* at the way O'Neill has turned a pigs ear into a bit of pork crackling, rather than the silk purse it could be. But of course there are alot of people out there who are quite partial to a bit of pork crackling...
Albarnista
All depends on how high you set your sights I guess. For an improvement on O'Neill, you wouldn't have to look far at all. For a genuinely top quality manager, I don't believe I'm best placed to say, as I believe you need to sit down and talk seriously with a guy before you know whether he'll be right for the job. However, off the top of my head, one manager who would be a substantial improvement on O'Neill, and who is actually out of work at the moment, is Mark Hughes. Made predominantly excellent signings, and City played good football. Always struck me as being a (relatively) decent, honourable man as well. But if you think about it, why wouldn't someone like Mourinho be unrealistic? Italian football is a backwater, and I get the impression that he's ready to leave as soon as an interesting offer comes in. Martin O'Neill has had substantial funds, and free reign to run the club as he sees fit. It wouldn't surprise me if Mourinho wasn't the only manager who looks at O'Neill's hand with green eyes. Green eyes and a barely suppressed s******* at the way O'Neill has turned a pigs ear into a bit of pork crackling, rather than the silk purse it could be. But of course there are alot of people out there who are quite partial to a bit of pork crackling...
Albarnista
How amusing that I've been censored! Just in case anyone is wondering, the censored word is kind of like a chuckle, but schoolbys don't chuckle, they _ _ _ _ _ _ _
Albarnista
How amusing that I've been censored! Just in case anyone is wondering, the censored word is kind of like a chuckle, but schoolbys don't chuckle, they _ _ _ _ _ _ _
Albarnista
 

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