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Blackburn v Villa SOLD OUT

Tickets for Villa's Carling Cup semi-final away leg are now SOLD OUT.




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Writer: J P Fear Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday December 22 2009

Time: 11:24AM

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Just gotta figure out how to bloody get there now.
DeanoVilla
Just gotta figure out how to bloody get there now.
DeanoVilla
luckily got mine over a week ago, any news fear on if the club will ask for any extra? i know we have taken more than 5k to Blackburn previously and the stand holds between 7-8k
pauled177
luckily got mine over a week ago, any news fear on if the club will ask for any extra? i know we have taken more than 5k to Blackburn previously and the stand holds between 7-8k
pauled177
It is great to have sold out so quickly. Pity we are so fickle for home games. All this money goes in to the pocket of Blackburn Rovers. For our home games in the cup and league this season there have been 78,000 empty seats. When kids prices are taken into account this averages out at about 25 a ticket. This means Villa fans have let the club down to the tune of 2 million in gate receipts. With merchandising and catering added this figure would be nearer 3 million. All in all in empty seats and additional revenue, we have failed the new regime by about 12m since their arrival. But soon as we get a semi final the tickets sell out in hours . . . . . . . . with all the money going to the other club. Unbelievable. I think the term we would use if it was another club would be 'Glory Hunters'.
voiceoftheholte
It is great to have sold out so quickly. Pity we are so fickle for home games. All this money goes in to the pocket of Blackburn Rovers. For our home games in the cup and league this season there have been 78,000 empty seats. When kids prices are taken into account this averages out at about 25 a ticket. This means Villa fans have let the club down to the tune of 2 million in gate receipts. With merchandising and catering added this figure would be nearer 3 million. All in all in empty seats and additional revenue, we have failed the new regime by about 12m since their arrival. But soon as we get a semi final the tickets sell out in hours . . . . . . . . with all the money going to the other club. Unbelievable. I think the term we would use if it was another club would be 'Glory Hunters'.
voiceoftheholte
:( was planning to buy today!
Tr1dent
:( was planning to buy today!
Tr1dent
well said voiceoftheholte.
Tr1dent
well said voiceoftheholte.
Tr1dent
voiceoftheholte, i think you are being a little harsh there, weve only sold 5k for Blackburn, 2k had gone earlier to ST holders who had been to 4+ aways, the other 3k have gone to season ticket holders with no aways or <3. that cant be considered glory hunting, the glory hunting will be the extra 10k that turn up for the home leg of the semi that werent at the Stoke game etc
pauled177
voiceoftheholte, i think you are being a little harsh there, weve only sold 5k for Blackburn, 2k had gone earlier to ST holders who had been to 4+ aways, the other 3k have gone to season ticket holders with no aways or <3. that cant be considered glory hunting, the glory hunting will be the extra 10k that turn up for the home leg of the semi that werent at the Stoke game etc
pauled177
Not really in this case voice, 5000 tickets and pretty much all (apart from the Sunderland guys and to be fair, that was the offer so hey ho) are season ticket holders, so not glory hunters at all for this game. They'll be out the woodwork to see us win at Wembley mind you!
The Fear
Not really in this case voice, 5000 tickets and pretty much all (apart from the Sunderland guys and to be fair, that was the offer so hey ho) are season ticket holders, so not glory hunters at all for this game. They'll be out the woodwork to see us win at Wembley mind you!
The Fear
If you haven't got one and want to go, just get one in the B'burn end it will be half empty anyway!! Its what happend at Bolton a few years ago!!
AVNath
If you haven't got one and want to go, just get one in the B'burn end it will be half empty anyway!! Its what happend at Bolton a few years ago!!
AVNath
Tickets are on general sale at Blackburn http://www.rovers.co.uk/page/TicketsLatest/0,,10303~1895735,00.html
pauled177
Tickets are on general sale at Blackburn http://www.rovers.co.uk/page/TicketsLatest/0,,10303~1895735,00.html
pauled177
I accept that it will mainly be season ticket holders and regular away travellers who have purchased the 5000 tickets. I was playing devils advocat on the money that we have failed to put in to the club over the last 3 and a half years. Which I think is a fair point to make. I hate to highlight how poor we are sometimes. Villa is one of two clubs in a city of a million people. Newcastle are one club in a city of 400,000 people but managed to get almost 50,000. The comparative on pitch fortunes of the two clubs couldn't be further apart. Newcastle is working class area decimated by the recession (like Birmingham) and the match ticket prices are comparable. For us to have 7000 empty seats on Saturday for a 3pm kick off not live on the TV must have been such a disappointment to the players and owners. I felt absolutely gutted at kick off when I saw the empty seats. There are no longer any excuses. We are simply an averagely supported club that have a wonderful history of success. We have obviously punched above our weight, as we are beginning to do again. Depressing!!
voiceoftheholte
I accept that it will mainly be season ticket holders and regular away travellers who have purchased the 5000 tickets. I was playing devils advocat on the money that we have failed to put in to the club over the last 3 and a half years. Which I think is a fair point to make. I hate to highlight how poor we are sometimes. Villa is one of two clubs in a city of a million people. Newcastle are one club in a city of 400,000 people but managed to get almost 50,000. The comparative on pitch fortunes of the two clubs couldn't be further apart. Newcastle is working class area decimated by the recession (like Birmingham) and the match ticket prices are comparable. For us to have 7000 empty seats on Saturday for a 3pm kick off not live on the TV must have been such a disappointment to the players and owners. I felt absolutely gutted at kick off when I saw the empty seats. There are no longer any excuses. We are simply an averagely supported club that have a wonderful history of success. We have obviously punched above our weight, as we are beginning to do again. Depressing!!
voiceoftheholte
I do agree with voiceoftheholte's sentiments, if not his original point. I know too many 'villa fans' who live locally, can afford to go but don't. Then they have the cheek to have a pop at Gabby, MON and anyone else they fancy. Fact is, if you can afford to go and live locally you should go, no matter what the opposition, if not, don't class yourself as a SUPPORTER and don't have the gaul to criticise a club you have no intention of putting anything into yourself.
Longman
I do agree with voiceoftheholte's sentiments, if not his original point. I know too many 'villa fans' who live locally, can afford to go but don't. Then they have the cheek to have a pop at Gabby, MON and anyone else they fancy. Fact is, if you can afford to go and live locally you should go, no matter what the opposition, if not, don't class yourself as a SUPPORTER and don't have the gaul to criticise a club you have no intention of putting anything into yourself.
Longman
Im as frustrated as everyone else with our lack of support at certain times, however being in the forces & surrounded by fans of numerous clubs we are not the only ones...as for glory supporting we are again no different to any other club in the leagues, a sniff if any form of success & they all come out the woodwork, thats just the way it is unfortunately...however I would like to see a few glory supporters at the games as you know what that would mean!!!!!!!!!!Up the villa
marcobavfc
Im as frustrated as everyone else with our lack of support at certain times, however being in the forces & surrounded by fans of numerous clubs we are not the only ones...as for glory supporting we are again no different to any other club in the leagues, a sniff if any form of success & they all come out the woodwork, thats just the way it is unfortunately...however I would like to see a few glory supporters at the games as you know what that would mean!!!!!!!!!!Up the villa
marcobavfc
Gutted. I really wanted to go to this. I didn't realise they were available to season ticket holders with no away yet. Oh well. I've got my tickets for both home cup games with Blackburn. Let's hope we sell out for the FA Cup game. Clearly we will for the home semi.
Adam Deuce
Gutted. I really wanted to go to this. I didn't realise they were available to season ticket holders with no away yet. Oh well. I've got my tickets for both home cup games with Blackburn. Let's hope we sell out for the FA Cup game. Clearly we will for the home semi.
Adam Deuce
It must be nice to be able to sit in ivory towers, judging people who have been hit hard by the credit crunch and can only afford to go to a handful of games. Some people have to carefully choose the games they go to, as they can't afford season tickets this year (myself included, as I have had to cancel my long held season ticket due to economic reasons), and therefore will definitly want to see the club they have supported for years, both in emotion and finance. A semi final is the obvious choice for supporters who can't go to every game as it provides value for money, in the sense that not all games are that important. So to call people glory supporters, and accuse them of coming out of the wood work is both crass, and immature. Shame on you sirs, shame on you!!
VILLAMAD
It must be nice to be able to sit in ivory towers, judging people who have been hit hard by the credit crunch and can only afford to go to a handful of games. Some people have to carefully choose the games they go to, as they can't afford season tickets this year (myself included, as I have had to cancel my long held season ticket due to economic reasons), and therefore will definitly want to see the club they have supported for years, both in emotion and finance. A semi final is the obvious choice for supporters who can't go to every game as it provides value for money, in the sense that not all games are that important. So to call people glory supporters, and accuse them of coming out of the wood work is both crass, and immature. Shame on you sirs, shame on you!!
VILLAMAD
That is the problem VILLAMAD, there are those who so want to go and can't. Maybe there is the flipside of those who could be don't I'm really not sure. I did think we'd be sold out all the time when the new regime came but hey, footie is a funny old game. Also do think that most of those going to the semi are season ticket holders etc. FA Cup would be a great chance for those who can't usually get down to do so maybe, not too expensive and a very worthy cup!
The Fear
That is the problem VILLAMAD, there are those who so want to go and can't. Maybe there is the flipside of those who could be don't I'm really not sure. I did think we'd be sold out all the time when the new regime came but hey, footie is a funny old game. Also do think that most of those going to the semi are season ticket holders etc. FA Cup would be a great chance for those who can't usually get down to do so maybe, not too expensive and a very worthy cup!
The Fear
VILLAMAD, I hope your post wasn't aimed at me. If you read my comment it clearly says if you can make it AND CAN AFFORD IT there is no excuse, being hit by the credit crunch, redundancy etc is a very valid reason for not being able to go week in week out, my issue is not with you, but those who generally can't be bothered
Longman
VILLAMAD, I hope your post wasn't aimed at me. If you read my comment it clearly says if you can make it AND CAN AFFORD IT there is no excuse, being hit by the credit crunch, redundancy etc is a very valid reason for not being able to go week in week out, my issue is not with you, but those who generally can't be bothered
Longman
VILLAMAD, I think you are reasonably new to the site . . . and if you are then welcome to the best Villa site on the planet. So you may not know that I have historically defended the fans that can not go to all the games. Be that for family reasons, work (or lack of), finances, location etc. I will continuually defend all of those fans. But as Longman said, we have too many supposed supporters who can afford to go, who are happy to critisise, but who do not put their hand in their pocket and actually support the club. I know many pubs in Brum that are full of supposed Villa fans that go there to watch live home matches on the TV. They spend as much, if not more on beer than the price of a match ticket, but then slag the club off if it is a poor performance. Brum has been hit as hard, if not harder, than many cities during this recession. There are many who simply have to pick and choose games. The point I am making though is that we like to portray ourselves as a big club, when in fact we are not. We do not have enough supporters with enough passion and the finances to back up the passion, to fill the ground every game. Our history suggests we are a big club. Our support says otherwise. Man City are below us in the League. They have been for years. They are in a city with a population of 600,000 (almost half that of Birmingham) people and must compete with one of the biggest clubs on the planet. But their average home gate is several thousand more than ours. And they haven't loked like winning anything for longer than us. We were genuinely a big club until the end of 70's. We won our main silverware as the star was fading. We have never been a big club since. The only reason for that is Doug Ellis. It will take a generation to recover the apathy he instilled in this football club and our supporters. That much is now plainly obvious.
voiceoftheholte
VILLAMAD, I think you are reasonably new to the site . . . and if you are then welcome to the best Villa site on the planet. So you may not know that I have historically defended the fans that can not go to all the games. Be that for family reasons, work (or lack of), finances, location etc. I will continuually defend all of those fans. But as Longman said, we have too many supposed supporters who can afford to go, who are happy to critisise, but who do not put their hand in their pocket and actually support the club. I know many pubs in Brum that are full of supposed Villa fans that go there to watch live home matches on the TV. They spend as much, if not more on beer than the price of a match ticket, but then slag the club off if it is a poor performance. Brum has been hit as hard, if not harder, than many cities during this recession. There are many who simply have to pick and choose games. The point I am making though is that we like to portray ourselves as a big club, when in fact we are not. We do not have enough supporters with enough passion and the finances to back up the passion, to fill the ground every game. Our history suggests we are a big club. Our support says otherwise. Man City are below us in the League. They have been for years. They are in a city with a population of 600,000 (almost half that of Birmingham) people and must compete with one of the biggest clubs on the planet. But their average home gate is several thousand more than ours. And they haven't loked like winning anything for longer than us. We were genuinely a big club until the end of 70's. We won our main silverware as the star was fading. We have never been a big club since. The only reason for that is Doug Ellis. It will take a generation to recover the apathy he instilled in this football club and our supporters. That much is now plainly obvious.
voiceoftheholte
can't argue, would like to but those facts do say a lot. I remember saying in one of my interviews around the time of the takeover Villa Park will be full each game once the new regime comes in. I was questioned on it and repeated it. How wrong I was!
The Fear
can't argue, would like to but those facts do say a lot. I remember saying in one of my interviews around the time of the takeover Villa Park will be full each game once the new regime comes in. I was questioned on it and repeated it. How wrong I was!
The Fear
Not your fault Fear. You have done more than 99% of fans in support of this club. I work with a typical Villa 'fan'. Loves to comment who we should buy, what is wrong with the club, which players are supposedly not good enough. However the only time he goes to any games is to entertain clients in the free prawn sandwich seats that the business has. He is a business manager with a good salary, nice car, good perks (like the free seats occasionally), but will he put a penny into supporting the club? There is more chance of Cuellar being a right back than there is of that. The club as far as I can see, do all the normal things to encourage more support. Ticket initiatives, fan forums, questionairres, advertising web research etc. Maybe they need to go a step further. I work within the media world and get involved in a lot of what is called 'Social Marketing'. This is simply a process that creates behavioural change. It is very in depth and is far too detailed to go through on a forum such as this. However there is a systematic process than can be applied to see what is required to alter the behaviour of difficult to reach target audiences. In effect what needs to be done to make those who can come to Villa Park, but who choose not to, alter their supporting habits. However as the club is so professionally run nowadays I would be surprised if this is not already in place??
voiceoftheholte
Not your fault Fear. You have done more than 99% of fans in support of this club. I work with a typical Villa 'fan'. Loves to comment who we should buy, what is wrong with the club, which players are supposedly not good enough. However the only time he goes to any games is to entertain clients in the free prawn sandwich seats that the business has. He is a business manager with a good salary, nice car, good perks (like the free seats occasionally), but will he put a penny into supporting the club? There is more chance of Cuellar being a right back than there is of that. The club as far as I can see, do all the normal things to encourage more support. Ticket initiatives, fan forums, questionairres, advertising web research etc. Maybe they need to go a step further. I work within the media world and get involved in a lot of what is called 'Social Marketing'. This is simply a process that creates behavioural change. It is very in depth and is far too detailed to go through on a forum such as this. However there is a systematic process than can be applied to see what is required to alter the behaviour of difficult to reach target audiences. In effect what needs to be done to make those who can come to Villa Park, but who choose not to, alter their supporting habits. However as the club is so professionally run nowadays I would be surprised if this is not already in place??
voiceoftheholte
Can't argue with that voice, there are those who will be in a long line of corporate wallies for Wembley if/when we get there but who won't put a penny in. There is a certain ex owner who still doesn't either. Must be so nice to get everything for free but what about supporting the club for a change?!
The Fear
Can't argue with that voice, there are those who will be in a long line of corporate wallies for Wembley if/when we get there but who won't put a penny in. There is a certain ex owner who still doesn't either. Must be so nice to get everything for free but what about supporting the club for a change?!
The Fear
 

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