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England's Little Villans

Three Villans helped the England U19 side to a 3-1 victory over Turkey last night.

Nathan Delfouneso, Gary Gardner and Nathan Baker all played in the match and had something to cheer.

Baker captained the lads, and Delboy and Gardner Jnr both got themselves on the scoresheet.

Not a bad run out by anyone's standards eh, especially as the side are now 5 for 5 in the season.

Gary Gardner has another strange reason to celebrate, his appearance last night means he's now played for three different England teams this season having also represented the U20's and U17 squads.

In other England news Fabian Delph impressed during his run out in the England U21 side who drew 0-0 with Lithuania.

Delph played all 90 minutes and the point gained in the match leaves England just two points behind group leaders Greece with a game in hand.

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The Journalist

Writer: Mike Field Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Wednesday November 18 2009

Time: 4:14PM

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Great stuff, nice to see the Fonz progressing and Gardner pushing his way in also, exciting prospect so I hear.
the fear
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18/11/2009 16:29:00

Great stuff, nice to see the Fonz progressing and Gardner pushing his way in also, exciting prospect so I hear.
the fear
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18/11/2009 16:29:00

Seriously, I just can't imagine these fine prospects getting a chance under MON. I don't want to turn every thread into an anti-MON rant, but let's face it, the man's a knob.
Saurat
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18/11/2009 18:59:00

Seriously, I just can't imagine these fine prospects getting a chance under MON. I don't want to turn every thread into an anti-MON rant, but let's face it, the man's a knob.
Saurat
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18/11/2009 18:59:00

Saurat - I'm a fan of MO'N but I totally agree with you on his youth policy. Sidwell ahead of Craig Gardner, wasting 5m on Dunne when Clark hadn't put a foot wrong (Letting Cahill go), Heskey ahead of Delfouneso & even Heskey on the wing ahead of Albrighton. And also wasting money on crap like Beye when we have a couple of RB's coming through. With players like Heskey, Beye & Dunne taking up places,the young lads would probably be better off moving on.
StuLinney
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18/11/2009 19:17:00

Saurat - I'm a fan of MO'N but I totally agree with you on his youth policy. Sidwell ahead of Craig Gardner, wasting 5m on Dunne when Clark hadn't put a foot wrong (Letting Cahill go), Heskey ahead of Delfouneso & even Heskey on the wing ahead of Albrighton. And also wasting money on crap like Beye when we have a couple of RB's coming through. With players like Heskey, Beye & Dunne taking up places,the young lads would probably be better off moving on.
StuLinney
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18/11/2009 19:17:00

OK so if MON hadn't bought in new "senior experienced" players you lot would all be calling him an idiot for not bolstering the squad and relying on "untried youngsters". If it wasn't so sad it would be funny. "Clark hadn't put a foot wrong" No he hadn't but he'd only played one first XL game. Come on guys you know MON HAD to buy experienced players. We all wanted him to and he did. These guys WILL get their chance. Do Man Utd play all their youngsters every week? No. I'm sure he planned to play them in Europe again but that opportunity was lost. But if he had and we'd got knocked out people would have moaned that he shouldn't have relied on kids. So he can't win. I guess that's the managers lot. ;)
Adam Deuce
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18/11/2009 22:30:00

OK so if MON hadn't bought in new "senior experienced" players you lot would all be calling him an idiot for not bolstering the squad and relying on "untried youngsters". If it wasn't so sad it would be funny. "Clark hadn't put a foot wrong" No he hadn't but he'd only played one first XL game. Come on guys you know MON HAD to buy experienced players. We all wanted him to and he did. These guys WILL get their chance. Do Man Utd play all their youngsters every week? No. I'm sure he planned to play them in Europe again but that opportunity was lost. But if he had and we'd got knocked out people would have moaned that he shouldn't have relied on kids. So he can't win. I guess that's the managers lot. ;)
Adam Deuce
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18/11/2009 22:30:00

"Letting Cahill go" - not again - I imagined, hoped against hope, that Cahill's performance in our recent game against Bolton would finally put that one to bed, but no, it still goes on. Cahill was 'let go' because he wanted guaranteed first team football at a time when it could no be promised to him. Simple as. Can we now move on to important matters please? As for "Sidwell ahead of Craig Gardner", as much as I like Craig, I don't remember him setting the world on fire in any of his appearances, even when he was getting a few games. And to talk about Habib Beye as "crap", and about "Beye and Dunne taking up places" really beats everything. I'm beginning to wonder what planet some Villa fans live on.
BobTheBuilder
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19/11/2009 00:58:00

"Letting Cahill go" - not again - I imagined, hoped against hope, that Cahill's performance in our recent game against Bolton would finally put that one to bed, but no, it still goes on. Cahill was 'let go' because he wanted guaranteed first team football at a time when it could no be promised to him. Simple as. Can we now move on to important matters please? As for "Sidwell ahead of Craig Gardner", as much as I like Craig, I don't remember him setting the world on fire in any of his appearances, even when he was getting a few games. And to talk about Habib Beye as "crap", and about "Beye and Dunne taking up places" really beats everything. I'm beginning to wonder what planet some Villa fans live on.
BobTheBuilder
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19/11/2009 00:58:00

Beye peaked at Marseille & has been on the decline ever since he joined Newcastle. And Dick Dunne hasn't exactly been flawless (but then again what else can you expect from a guy with his track record?) I'm all for bringing in experience to intergrate with the young lads, but why not bring in quality instead of the Beye's & Marshall's? I also think it's unfair to judge Gardner on his appearances at right back or the right hand side. The games he has played in the centre he's done well, certainly no worse than Sidwell. On a side note though, it's frustrating that MO'N NEVER makes any changes or substitutions except of course for the predictable Carew/Heskey switch (unless we're 5-1 up). What's the point in strengthening the squad & promoting our youth when he continues to use the same 12-14 players?
StuLinney
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19/11/2009 03:30:00

Beye peaked at Marseille & has been on the decline ever since he joined Newcastle. And Dick Dunne hasn't exactly been flawless (but then again what else can you expect from a guy with his track record?) I'm all for bringing in experience to intergrate with the young lads, but why not bring in quality instead of the Beye's & Marshall's? I also think it's unfair to judge Gardner on his appearances at right back or the right hand side. The games he has played in the centre he's done well, certainly no worse than Sidwell. On a side note though, it's frustrating that MO'N NEVER makes any changes or substitutions except of course for the predictable Carew/Heskey switch (unless we're 5-1 up). What's the point in strengthening the squad & promoting our youth when he continues to use the same 12-14 players?
StuLinney
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19/11/2009 03:30:00

StuLinney - Wasting 5m in Dunne? Think you're in a minority of one with that call my friend...
YatesyVillain
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19/11/2009 04:57:00

StuLinney - Wasting 5m in Dunne? Think you're in a minority of one with that call my friend...
YatesyVillain
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19/11/2009 04:57:00

agreed bobthebuilder, it was a stinker of a performance and made me think again!

Stu, Not seen anyone else call Dunne a waste of money, I'd have thought more like a bargain! Fascinating game footie, we all love the same team but see things so differently!
The Fear
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19/11/2009 09:16:00

agreed bobthebuilder, it was a stinker of a performance and made me think again!

Stu, Not seen anyone else call Dunne a waste of money, I'd have thought more like a bargain! Fascinating game footie, we all love the same team but see things so differently!
The Fear
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19/11/2009 09:16:00

Dunne cost nearly twice as much as Laursen & is not even half the player. 5m would have got Shawcross or Turner (who only cost about 4-5m) two young English players who are improving all the time. I can't even remember any of them selfishly leaving their team-mates in the lurch by getting sent off for reckless, not to mention rubbish challenges a la Dunne. It's Dunne's attitude more than anything that has to be questioned. His best game so far coming against Citeh (wonder why?) He's stuck in his ways of lumping the ball whichever way he's facing, whether it be for a corner, a throw in or just to the oppositon to invite more pressure. Things a young defender alongside the class of Collins (a player I was happy with after my Wet Spam mate used to go on about him ALL the time) would be able to erase from their game.
StuLinney
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19/11/2009 10:07:00

Dunne cost nearly twice as much as Laursen & is not even half the player. 5m would have got Shawcross or Turner (who only cost about 4-5m) two young English players who are improving all the time. I can't even remember any of them selfishly leaving their team-mates in the lurch by getting sent off for reckless, not to mention rubbish challenges a la Dunne. It's Dunne's attitude more than anything that has to be questioned. His best game so far coming against Citeh (wonder why?) He's stuck in his ways of lumping the ball whichever way he's facing, whether it be for a corner, a throw in or just to the oppositon to invite more pressure. Things a young defender alongside the class of Collins (a player I was happy with after my Wet Spam mate used to go on about him ALL the time) would be able to erase from their game.
StuLinney
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19/11/2009 10:07:00

2nd best defence in the League and people are moaning!!! Collins and Dunne have formed a great partnership very quickly. A young defender coming in would have taken time, and with Davies and Clark we already have this covered. What a stupid argument about being sent off. Like he's the first defender to ever get a red card. You need to find something else to moan about mate, because let's face it, you'll always be moaning about something.
HeathfieldRoad1874
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19/11/2009 11:32:00

2nd best defence in the League and people are moaning!!! Collins and Dunne have formed a great partnership very quickly. A young defender coming in would have taken time, and with Davies and Clark we already have this covered. What a stupid argument about being sent off. Like he's the first defender to ever get a red card. You need to find something else to moan about mate, because let's face it, you'll always be moaning about something.
HeathfieldRoad1874
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19/11/2009 11:32:00

This sounds a bit personal, Stu. Has he DUNNE something to upset you?
Rawlie
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19/11/2009 12:49:00

This sounds a bit personal, Stu. Has he DUNNE something to upset you?
Rawlie
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19/11/2009 12:49:00

True, I'm a moaner. I grumbled when we 1st got linked with him, but when he stated he didn't want to leave Citeh I thought "Top man, willing to fight for his place." When a fee had been agreed I wondered why MO'N was wasting his time when Dunne had stated days earlier he didn't want to leave. Then he said "City are forcing me out" (even though Hughes admitted he wanted to keep him) then Dunne said he wasn't going to leave until he got paid the value of the fee for a testimonial he wasn't even entitled to. City didn't want to pay it (rightly so) & thus Dunne keeps MO'N hanging on until halfway through deadline day making sure he couldn't sign an alternative. If Dunne really wanted to join Villa he'd have signed as soon as we came in. I just want players at Villa who want to play for Villa, not because we were the only alternative to sitting on the Citeh bench. (And also willing to pay a ridiculous 50k+ a wk with guaranteed 1st team football attached.)
StuLinney
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19/11/2009 13:09:00

True, I'm a moaner. I grumbled when we 1st got linked with him, but when he stated he didn't want to leave Citeh I thought "Top man, willing to fight for his place." When a fee had been agreed I wondered why MO'N was wasting his time when Dunne had stated days earlier he didn't want to leave. Then he said "City are forcing me out" (even though Hughes admitted he wanted to keep him) then Dunne said he wasn't going to leave until he got paid the value of the fee for a testimonial he wasn't even entitled to. City didn't want to pay it (rightly so) & thus Dunne keeps MO'N hanging on until halfway through deadline day making sure he couldn't sign an alternative. If Dunne really wanted to join Villa he'd have signed as soon as we came in. I just want players at Villa who want to play for Villa, not because we were the only alternative to sitting on the Citeh bench. (And also willing to pay a ridiculous 50k+ a wk with guaranteed 1st team football attached.)
StuLinney
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19/11/2009 13:09:00

What a load of tosh.
YatesyVillain
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19/11/2009 14:10:00

What a load of tosh.
YatesyVillain
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