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Villa Excuses Ready Before Season Start?

Ok, so I'm easily baffled and when it comes to Villa, same as most fans, I'm full of passion and get very protective!

I can't fathom the need for the comments that our manager, Martin O'Neill (in case you didn't realise!) has again made about not wanting to send the club bust.

WE KNOW THAT... WE TAKE THAT AS A GIVEN THANKS! Don't we?

I must admit I find it interesting when you talk about anything MON has said because some fans will then say some of us are just negative and not real fans... blah blah blah!

I'm not negative, I'm just realistic...!

He said to BBC WM - Click Here

'I do not want to be presiding over a bankrupt Aston Villa Football Club. It won't be while I'm here and it certainly won't be while the owner is here.'

No one said we would be. No one is asking for stupid money to be spent, trouble is no one is asking for players to be sold when no replacements (yet) are in and for us to then be told by the manager that the squad is far too small.

It is all too confusing for words...

He then talks about the way Manchester City are doing things - ie spending money and bringing in quality signings, bit of a shocking way to go about it really and says

'Well done them if they can do it. That is not how we're running this particular football club. That is not to be criticising any club at all, in any manner. I'm quite sure people could find lots of things we could attempt to do a bit better, but overall, we're running it as a type of business.'

He says the club will go into the season with the same 'determination' and also to try to rectify the problems we ran into last season ie ran out of steam/players/legs... But how do we do that when players like Zat Knight are sold? Even if we bring in another defender, we are still a defender down following the retirement of Martin Laursen or have I lost the ability to count?

Can we withstand the season and compete? 'Those are the type of questions, and I think that during the course of the season, maybe we'll find the answers. But at this minute, what I would concentrate on is the excitement of the new season starting.'

Confusing as ever... quotes one minute say we are looking for quality and signings, then we get these sort of comments again...

Conclusion by some in the forum (and I'm sure other Villa forums) is the manager doesn't actually have the money to spend. Not my conclusion I must admit but hey, with Villa, who knows ... never is simple is it?! Don't blame Martin O'Neill...blame the board

Must admit, I'm bored of the ridles, we need a clear and concise interview stating where Villa are at, where the ambitions lie, what sort of ambition we have in the transfer window, if the money is available, if not what the plans are... All this press talk and snippets of quotes just gets confusing doesn't it?

NOT having a go at anyone, NOT being negative, just slightly confused and bemused!


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Writer: J P Fear Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Friday August 14 2009

Time: 11:13AM

Your Comments

With the exception of a central defender or two needed, we do not have a small squad. That is an absolute myth. What we are, in my opinion, is lacking a wee bit in quality to push on. But the small squad stuff is, in the main, complete & utter garbage when you look at the numbers, and I'm unsure as to why MON says anything of the sort.
Sheriff Kimbo
With the exception of a central defender or two needed, we do not have a small squad. That is an absolute myth. What we are, in my opinion, is lacking a wee bit in quality to push on. But the small squad stuff is, in the main, complete & utter garbage when you look at the numbers, and I'm unsure as to why MON says anything of the sort.
Sheriff Kimbo
He's saying that he won't buy or keep players that aren't good enough and it will take time to bring them through the ranks (which seems to be happening) or persuade them to join (when/if we get Champs league.) All looks like he's covering his own back and setting himself up for the England job.
Villan444
He's saying that he won't buy or keep players that aren't good enough and it will take time to bring them through the ranks (which seems to be happening) or persuade them to join (when/if we get Champs league.) All looks like he's covering his own back and setting himself up for the England job.
Villan444
I agree Fear.
astonsteve
I agree Fear.
astonsteve
I don't and won't accuse you of being negative, Fear, just because you're questioning something about Villa or Martin O'Neill. The only thing I would say is this: it often looks like a manager or footballer has gone to the press with a story. I don't think that's the way it happens. Much more likely that MON has been interviewed - which is part of the modern manager's job - and he has been asked certain questions, which he then tries to give honest answers to. What you don't see in all this is any context. On the days that MON has said he's looking to strengthen, he will have been asked is he looking to bring in players. For this interview, he is likely to have been asked "will/can you compete with ManC". I don't see any problem with his answer, if it IS an answer to a question, and not the club phoning this story around the press.
BobTheBuilder
I don't and won't accuse you of being negative, Fear, just because you're questioning something about Villa or Martin O'Neill. The only thing I would say is this: it often looks like a manager or footballer has gone to the press with a story. I don't think that's the way it happens. Much more likely that MON has been interviewed - which is part of the modern manager's job - and he has been asked certain questions, which he then tries to give honest answers to. What you don't see in all this is any context. On the days that MON has said he's looking to strengthen, he will have been asked is he looking to bring in players. For this interview, he is likely to have been asked "will/can you compete with ManC". I don't see any problem with his answer, if it IS an answer to a question, and not the club phoning this story around the press.
BobTheBuilder
A lot of quotes are taken out of context and can be misrepresented. What I can fathom from what has been written so far is that Villa are trying to bring players in but the good ones cost more than MON wants to pay... no rocket science there. I am becoming more frustrated with transfer links/captures, obviously the majority of them are made up as Villa need players and so we get linked to everyone mildly available but in the same breath - we have 4 fit defenders a day before the start of a new campaign............
londonbasedvillan
A lot of quotes are taken out of context and can be misrepresented. What I can fathom from what has been written so far is that Villa are trying to bring players in but the good ones cost more than MON wants to pay... no rocket science there. I am becoming more frustrated with transfer links/captures, obviously the majority of them are made up as Villa need players and so we get linked to everyone mildly available but in the same breath - we have 4 fit defenders a day before the start of a new campaign............
londonbasedvillan
Presumably MON was responding to questions? Quoting answers without the preceeding questions will always be confusing. Has any journalist asked him "Why did you sell Knight and weaken the squad even further?" It's the ball-less journo's that annoy me more than O'Neill's ambiguous answers.
Saurat
Presumably MON was responding to questions? Quoting answers without the preceeding questions will always be confusing. Has any journalist asked him "Why did you sell Knight and weaken the squad even further?" It's the ball-less journo's that annoy me more than O'Neill's ambiguous answers.
Saurat
Sheriff - The squad is small. I have just looked and am going from memory but of the first team squad listed 12 have not started a premier league game ever for us or for any other team for that matter. There is a massive difference between friendlies and minor cup games and the premiership. We have no depth if we get a run off injuries or suspensions.
Dead Souls
Sheriff - The squad is small. I have just looked and am going from memory but of the first team squad listed 12 have not started a premier league game ever for us or for any other team for that matter. There is a massive difference between friendlies and minor cup games and the premiership. We have no depth if we get a run off injuries or suspensions.
Dead Souls
I think the options in midfield are good, we are 3 keepers now, also good. We have 2 right backs, good, and 2 left backs, also good. We have 2 CBs, not good and 3 senior strikers, with Delboy on the verge, The Hare will not be involved. So the squad isnt as bad as I first thought BUT we NEED 2 CBs and possibly another striker.
young_jonah
I think the options in midfield are good, we are 3 keepers now, also good. We have 2 right backs, good, and 2 left backs, also good. We have 2 CBs, not good and 3 senior strikers, with Delboy on the verge, The Hare will not be involved. So the squad isnt as bad as I first thought BUT we NEED 2 CBs and possibly another striker.
young_jonah
Definitely two CB's, just to replace one Laursen. And a striker. And more cover elsewhere. Not having quality in reserve is what did us in last season.
ExpatVillaShirt
Definitely two CB's, just to replace one Laursen. And a striker. And more cover elsewhere. Not having quality in reserve is what did us in last season.
ExpatVillaShirt
DS - Friedel/Guzan, Young/Beye, Shorey/Bouma, Cuellar/Davies (that's where we need 2 more), Milner/Albrighton, Petrov/Reo-Coker, Sidwell/Delph, Young/Downing, Carew/Heskey, Agbonlahor/Delfouneso. That, central defence aside, is two for each position, not including Gardner, Salifou, Osborne, Clark, Lichaj, Marshall, Bannan. So the point is, you can argue all you like about the quality and the chances are I will agree with at least part of it (although I don't worry too much about the fact that Albrighton/Guzan haven't started a Prem game yet, I mean most the players that haven't started Prem games are young players, does that automatically mean they are not capable? I would be inclined to disagree, depending on which players we are discussing) but how anyone can suggest that is a small squad is quite simply baffling. I agree on the quality though, I would be concerned if we had to rely on some of them players for a sustained length of time, but that's the point - it's the quality, not the size of the squad that needs adressing.
Sheriff Kimbo
DS - Friedel/Guzan, Young/Beye, Shorey/Bouma, Cuellar/Davies (that's where we need 2 more), Milner/Albrighton, Petrov/Reo-Coker, Sidwell/Delph, Young/Downing, Carew/Heskey, Agbonlahor/Delfouneso. That, central defence aside, is two for each position, not including Gardner, Salifou, Osborne, Clark, Lichaj, Marshall, Bannan. So the point is, you can argue all you like about the quality and the chances are I will agree with at least part of it (although I don't worry too much about the fact that Albrighton/Guzan haven't started a Prem game yet, I mean most the players that haven't started Prem games are young players, does that automatically mean they are not capable? I would be inclined to disagree, depending on which players we are discussing) but how anyone can suggest that is a small squad is quite simply baffling. I agree on the quality though, I would be concerned if we had to rely on some of them players for a sustained length of time, but that's the point - it's the quality, not the size of the squad that needs adressing.
Sheriff Kimbo
Gutted... Seriously gutted... I had such hope for this transfer market for us to solidify our 6th position and push for a top 4 place. Now I hear the same sort of policies as when Doug Ellis was owner (balance the book, sell before we can buy)... Gutted.
Astriel
Gutted... Seriously gutted... I had such hope for this transfer market for us to solidify our 6th position and push for a top 4 place. Now I hear the same sort of policies as when Doug Ellis was owner (balance the book, sell before we can buy)... Gutted.
Astriel
Won't need a new striker if 4-3-3, 4-5-1, or 4-2-3-1 (a la the Netherlands), is deployed. What is it with MON and 4-4-2? Also, if Wenger can play Walcott and talk about playing Jack Wilshire, why can't MON play the Fonz. If Wilshire is "ready" then Albrighton, Delph (and maybe Bannan) should be too. The Villa deffo need a new CB, today, right now!! Possibly two.
VillaWillRiseAgain
Won't need a new striker if 4-3-3, 4-5-1, or 4-2-3-1 (a la the Netherlands), is deployed. What is it with MON and 4-4-2? Also, if Wenger can play Walcott and talk about playing Jack Wilshire, why can't MON play the Fonz. If Wilshire is "ready" then Albrighton, Delph (and maybe Bannan) should be too. The Villa deffo need a new CB, today, right now!! Possibly two.
VillaWillRiseAgain
i think villa are an ambicious club think martin likes to play things down and take pressure of our boys ...i believe the main reason he has metioned the comparison of villa and citeh is to try and keep the costs down for prospective targets because if villa give the impression that money is no object like the chelski's and citeh's we would be paying well over the odds for players and part of being a top manager is getting the best deals for your club...the main struggle for villa is to attract a superstar ready made player but i am sure he will continue trying until he succceds
Runtingz
i think villa are an ambicious club think martin likes to play things down and take pressure of our boys ...i believe the main reason he has metioned the comparison of villa and citeh is to try and keep the costs down for prospective targets because if villa give the impression that money is no object like the chelski's and citeh's we would be paying well over the odds for players and part of being a top manager is getting the best deals for your club...the main struggle for villa is to attract a superstar ready made player but i am sure he will continue trying until he succceds
Runtingz
I understand your argument Sherrif but half the team either has never played a premiership game or were not successful last year playing in the first team. MON can go draft in the entire under 12 youth squad it doesn't mean that we have more available players. If you actually look at the number of players who could play first team and hold a spot we have maybe 14-16 players... I do agree its a question of quality but 2 quality signings are not going to solve our problem. 5 would probably make us a top side with enough quality cover and still have youth players to contribute if needed. Now we have 11 players who basically almost pick themselves and some youth back-up... Not gonna cut it this year.
Astriel
I understand your argument Sherrif but half the team either has never played a premiership game or were not successful last year playing in the first team. MON can go draft in the entire under 12 youth squad it doesn't mean that we have more available players. If you actually look at the number of players who could play first team and hold a spot we have maybe 14-16 players... I do agree its a question of quality but 2 quality signings are not going to solve our problem. 5 would probably make us a top side with enough quality cover and still have youth players to contribute if needed. Now we have 11 players who basically almost pick themselves and some youth back-up... Not gonna cut it this year.
Astriel
If the Villa don't make serious progress this year then Ashley Young will probably be gone next summer, or at the very least extremely "unsettled". That will leave MON with a weakened squad, but no doubt represents good "business". Another exiting young player Fabian Delph, will almost certainly be off when his expectations don't match reality. The likes of Spurs currently see Villa as a feeder club, otherwise why would they enquire about no.7. So much for building a squad.
VillaWillRiseAgain
If the Villa don't make serious progress this year then Ashley Young will probably be gone next summer, or at the very least extremely "unsettled". That will leave MON with a weakened squad, but no doubt represents good "business". Another exiting young player Fabian Delph, will almost certainly be off when his expectations don't match reality. The likes of Spurs currently see Villa as a feeder club, otherwise why would they enquire about no.7. So much for building a squad.
VillaWillRiseAgain
BTW, nothing wrong with Tottenham Hotspur, one of Englands great clubs. However, they're currently more or less on a par with the Villa. Doesn't exactly encourage confidence that they think they can prize MONs biggest asset away from the Midlands.
VillaWillRiseAgain
BTW, nothing wrong with Tottenham Hotspur, one of Englands great clubs. However, they're currently more or less on a par with the Villa. Doesn't exactly encourage confidence that they think they can prize MONs biggest asset away from the Midlands.
VillaWillRiseAgain
Villawillriseagain come on my fellow villan spurs bidding for ash young is totally laughable next stop man u real madrid or milan for the likes of ashey young
Runtingz
Villawillriseagain come on my fellow villan spurs bidding for ash young is totally laughable next stop man u real madrid or milan for the likes of ashey young
Runtingz
Runtingz-Yes, it is laughable, thats why its worrying. Do you think that "Appy Arry" Redknapp would even dream of approaching Arsenal for Walcott, Chelsea for Obi Mikel, Liverpool for Torres or Man Utd for Macheda. He wouldn't even bother. The fact that despite Villa's sixth place finish he thinks Villa are a selling club, shows that he (and probably the wider EPL) don't think AVFC have what it takes to be a major force in English football
VillaWillRiseAgain
Runtingz-Yes, it is laughable, thats why its worrying. Do you think that "Appy Arry" Redknapp would even dream of approaching Arsenal for Walcott, Chelsea for Obi Mikel, Liverpool for Torres or Man Utd for Macheda. He wouldn't even bother. The fact that despite Villa's sixth place finish he thinks Villa are a selling club, shows that he (and probably the wider EPL) don't think AVFC have what it takes to be a major force in English football
VillaWillRiseAgain
Good luck from us at Pompey. You'll be somewhere just outside the top 4. Scrapping it the MC, Everton & Spuds. Sadly we'll be at the other end, heaven help us!!!
storagematt
Good luck from us at Pompey. You'll be somewhere just outside the top 4. Scrapping it the MC, Everton & Spuds. Sadly we'll be at the other end, heaven help us!!!
storagematt
you are totally correct in what you have said about clubs thinking they can take villa players at will VILLAwillRISEagain but in my view the reality is ash young would not consider a spurs move and i dont see then finishing above us either...i am one of the few that believe we are moving forward more at this point than we have in at least 10yrs and i think MON will get it right and improve the squad before the window closes delph will proberbly be a hooter property the ash young this time next year too cheers
Runtingz
you are totally correct in what you have said about clubs thinking they can take villa players at will VILLAwillRISEagain but in my view the reality is ash young would not consider a spurs move and i dont see then finishing above us either...i am one of the few that believe we are moving forward more at this point than we have in at least 10yrs and i think MON will get it right and improve the squad before the window closes delph will proberbly be a hooter property the ash young this time next year too cheers
Runtingz
Astriel, I named 2 players for each position. Out of them, the only people that can be classed as 'youth' players are Albrighton and Delfouneso, who I believe are capable of doing well for us now, not just in the future. Quality is a different discussion and I agree that some of our players need to be improved on but the point is, central defence aside, we don't have a small squad, and that's BEFORE we get to the youth players.
Sheriff Kimbo
Astriel, I named 2 players for each position. Out of them, the only people that can be classed as 'youth' players are Albrighton and Delfouneso, who I believe are capable of doing well for us now, not just in the future. Quality is a different discussion and I agree that some of our players need to be improved on but the point is, central defence aside, we don't have a small squad, and that's BEFORE we get to the youth players.
Sheriff Kimbo
Runtingz-Ashley Young won't go to Spurs-agreed. Villa will finish above Spurs-Agreed. Delph will be a hotter propety than Young-agreed. As for MON getting it right and improving the squad, I hope you're right. Villa, along with Everton, Spurs, and (in the lower leagues) Nottingham Forest and Leeds are part of a shadow "big five". All Villans should see challenging regularly for the League Title and Champions League as realistic targets for 5-10 years years time.
VillaWillRiseAgain
Runtingz-Ashley Young won't go to Spurs-agreed. Villa will finish above Spurs-Agreed. Delph will be a hotter propety than Young-agreed. As for MON getting it right and improving the squad, I hope you're right. Villa, along with Everton, Spurs, and (in the lower leagues) Nottingham Forest and Leeds are part of a shadow "big five". All Villans should see challenging regularly for the League Title and Champions League as realistic targets for 5-10 years years time.
VillaWillRiseAgain
sell before we can buy - you would have to agree with that so far, a minute net spens of around 3m so far this window. ssssoooooooooooo deflating. i for one will be seriously picking and choosing my cup games this year.
Stig
sell before we can buy - you would have to agree with that so far, a minute net spens of around 3m so far this window. ssssoooooooooooo deflating. i for one will be seriously picking and choosing my cup games this year.
Stig
me too Stig, no real 'wow' player to get excited about coming to see. Also i'm worried about the standard of football we will play- Barry held everything together for us so well, and without that quality in the centre of the park, i'm not sure we'll be able to string more than 3 or 4 passes together!
MrZeus
me too Stig, no real 'wow' player to get excited about coming to see. Also i'm worried about the standard of football we will play- Barry held everything together for us so well, and without that quality in the centre of the park, i'm not sure we'll be able to string more than 3 or 4 passes together!
MrZeus
I totally agree with Sheriff Kimbo, with our youth team doing so well it can only be a good thing that Delfouneso and Albringhton are given a chance as well and should both do very well. Randy said there was cash at the start of the season and O'Neill is just responding to questions asked by the media. It seems players valuations are unrealistic at present and MON is struggling to get who he wants, I'm sure if he could have he'd have signed everyone he wants by now. To really step it up a level though we do need a quality Centreback, leftback, creative midfielder and a top striker. however that takes a hell of a lot of money and realistically we are not yet in a position to attract those top quality kind of players. MON is building slowly and hpefully in time we will be. Rome wasn't built in a day! Up The Villa! In MON We Trust.
antvillan
I totally agree with Sheriff Kimbo, with our youth team doing so well it can only be a good thing that Delfouneso and Albringhton are given a chance as well and should both do very well. Randy said there was cash at the start of the season and O'Neill is just responding to questions asked by the media. It seems players valuations are unrealistic at present and MON is struggling to get who he wants, I'm sure if he could have he'd have signed everyone he wants by now. To really step it up a level though we do need a quality Centreback, leftback, creative midfielder and a top striker. however that takes a hell of a lot of money and realistically we are not yet in a position to attract those top quality kind of players. MON is building slowly and hpefully in time we will be. Rome wasn't built in a day! Up The Villa! In MON We Trust.
antvillan
The issue Sheriff is that we used 18 players last year in the league. The fewest out of every team. We have lost 3 of those players. Downing won't play till Jan. Beye might play so we can count him. Delph will play. I can't see albrighton displacing milner and delf barely got a game last year. I'll even count Freddie eventhough its probably minimum a month before we see him So maybe we can look at +- 18 possible players. So pretty much just as bad as last year... Even if we assume all 22 players you have named as players will play a major role for us in the league, we probably are still in the top 5 smallest squads. Then add in that heskey, shorey, sidwell, reo basically had poor seasons (even though most of them are better than their performances) we don't have any competition for places.
Astriel
The issue Sheriff is that we used 18 players last year in the league. The fewest out of every team. We have lost 3 of those players. Downing won't play till Jan. Beye might play so we can count him. Delph will play. I can't see albrighton displacing milner and delf barely got a game last year. I'll even count Freddie eventhough its probably minimum a month before we see him So maybe we can look at +- 18 possible players. So pretty much just as bad as last year... Even if we assume all 22 players you have named as players will play a major role for us in the league, we probably are still in the top 5 smallest squads. Then add in that heskey, shorey, sidwell, reo basically had poor seasons (even though most of them are better than their performances) we don't have any competition for places.
Astriel
some excellent opinions on here today guys ..and most of the comments point towards us being a little worried about the clubs chances of having a even better season that the last one..i know the squad is not perfect but as some comments here have pointed out its more about quality now than quanity one we get the defence covered it should really be about cutting edge plays like wesley at real ..and as our youth system is growing into one to be envyed under the o'neill regime we might as well bide our time until we can get the class to join our very young and for me impressive squad....so much potential at villa right now cant think of any other club that has 6 to 8 players that could be part of the england squad with the next two years chin up villans
Runtingz
some excellent opinions on here today guys ..and most of the comments point towards us being a little worried about the clubs chances of having a even better season that the last one..i know the squad is not perfect but as some comments here have pointed out its more about quality now than quanity one we get the defence covered it should really be about cutting edge plays like wesley at real ..and as our youth system is growing into one to be envyed under the o'neill regime we might as well bide our time until we can get the class to join our very young and for me impressive squad....so much potential at villa right now cant think of any other club that has 6 to 8 players that could be part of the england squad with the next two years chin up villans
Runtingz
Regarding Mr Zeus comment, i dont think we'll miss Barry, i can see Milner playing barry's role better than Barry did. a 4-4-3 with Petrov, Delph and MIlner with Young, Carew and Gabby/Fonz tearing it up at the front. Milner offers more than Barry did. I know this is about depth, but if Rooney can come into the first team at Everton and cope easily with the prem, then why cant our youth do the same? Remember Hanson saying 'you cant win anything with kids'..........??
bobbyfett
Regarding Mr Zeus comment, i dont think we'll miss Barry, i can see Milner playing barry's role better than Barry did. a 4-4-3 with Petrov, Delph and MIlner with Young, Carew and Gabby/Fonz tearing it up at the front. Milner offers more than Barry did. I know this is about depth, but if Rooney can come into the first team at Everton and cope easily with the prem, then why cant our youth do the same? Remember Hanson saying 'you cant win anything with kids'..........??
bobbyfett
I had a lovely creole jambalaya for lunch today
Nimmo
I had a lovely creole jambalaya for lunch today
Nimmo
bobbyfett-4-4-3??? Who's going to play in goal? I assume you meant 4-3-3? If so the lineup you've given is pretty good. The thing is try telling that to MON. 4-4-2 didn't really work last season. Also the twin battering/work horse ram strategy, i.e Carew and Heskey, is a non-starter.
VillaWillRiseAgain
bobbyfett-4-4-3??? Who's going to play in goal? I assume you meant 4-3-3? If so the lineup you've given is pretty good. The thing is try telling that to MON. 4-4-2 didn't really work last season. Also the twin battering/work horse ram strategy, i.e Carew and Heskey, is a non-starter.
VillaWillRiseAgain
Which, Astriel, is the point on quality aint it. The numbers speak for themselves, the squad isn't that small. One of the five smallest in the league? I'd be interested to see a proper in-depth comparison, because I am inclined to disagree there - although clearly that is me working on the assumption that by the 1st September we'll have at least one shiny new centre back! The issue is that real genuine quality is just lacking in certain areas, but we only used so few players (I believe it was 21, not 18, by the way. That was what I read a couple of days ago anyway, I can't be bothered to go look for myself at the mo!) because that was the managers selection policy. If MON is not going to rotate then it doesn''t matter if we have a squad of 50 does it!
Sheriff Kimbo
Which, Astriel, is the point on quality aint it. The numbers speak for themselves, the squad isn't that small. One of the five smallest in the league? I'd be interested to see a proper in-depth comparison, because I am inclined to disagree there - although clearly that is me working on the assumption that by the 1st September we'll have at least one shiny new centre back! The issue is that real genuine quality is just lacking in certain areas, but we only used so few players (I believe it was 21, not 18, by the way. That was what I read a couple of days ago anyway, I can't be bothered to go look for myself at the mo!) because that was the managers selection policy. If MON is not going to rotate then it doesn''t matter if we have a squad of 50 does it!
Sheriff Kimbo
I don't care about his excuses, all relevant points and comments have already been posted... THIS DRIVES ME ABSOLUTELY BONKERS!!! Sign players before you sell goddamnit!!!!!
26.05.82
I don't care about his excuses, all relevant points and comments have already been posted... THIS DRIVES ME ABSOLUTELY BONKERS!!! Sign players before you sell goddamnit!!!!!
26.05.82
er.... yeah, Villawillrise, i did mean 4-3-3 (which the players i posted confirm) i just had a moment, what i call a brainfart. talking of keepers, i'd like to see us start with Guzan tomorrow, if were going to have a different backline then would it make sense to introduce a different keeper so that they all get used to one another at the same time?
bobbyfett
er.... yeah, Villawillrise, i did mean 4-3-3 (which the players i posted confirm) i just had a moment, what i call a brainfart. talking of keepers, i'd like to see us start with Guzan tomorrow, if were going to have a different backline then would it make sense to introduce a different keeper so that they all get used to one another at the same time?
bobbyfett
bobbyfett-thought you meant 4-3-3 ;o)...As for Guzan, not sure he should start Villans can only dream of a "different backline"), but BF should deffo have more competition for his place. Friedel is a v. experienced pro though....semi-predicted Villa running out of steam at the end of last season.
VillaWillRiseAgain
bobbyfett-thought you meant 4-3-3 ;o)...As for Guzan, not sure he should start Villans can only dream of a "different backline"), but BF should deffo have more competition for his place. Friedel is a v. experienced pro though....semi-predicted Villa running out of steam at the end of last season.
VillaWillRiseAgain
I appreciate the comments here, we do need some more signings and the season does start tomorrow.... but, and this is a big but, don't we all know by now that MON makes most of his transfer business late in the window? I'd be very surprised if we don't sign at least another 2 or 3 players in last week of August and maybe one next week too. Whether that will be enough will then be the question.
The Usual Suspect
agree with the comments re: interviews etc they can be misquoted etc, I've had it myself so know but this has been done a few times and like I said in a meeting this afternoon, you really take 'not wanting to send a business bust' as a given, not as something you need to be saying !
The Fear
I appreciate the comments here, we do need some more signings and the season does start tomorrow.... but, and this is a big but, don't we all know by now that MON makes most of his transfer business late in the window? I'd be very surprised if we don't sign at least another 2 or 3 players in last week of August and maybe one next week too. Whether that will be enough will then be the question.
The Usual Suspect
agree with the comments re: interviews etc they can be misquoted etc, I've had it myself so know but this has been done a few times and like I said in a meeting this afternoon, you really take 'not wanting to send a business bust' as a given, not as something you need to be saying !
The Fear
Thats a valid point JP, it does seem like a Homer comment. Doh.
The Usual Suspect
Thats a valid point JP, it does seem like a Homer comment. Doh.
The Usual Suspect
Not wishing to labour the point, JP, but of course not wanting your business to go bust is a given, and I'm very, very sure that MON is as tired of the question as we all are. But what should he respond to a question such as "will/can you compete with ManC in the transfer market". We all know what happens if banal questions like that aren't answered - the hack simply makes up whatever s/he wants instead. Why don't we all accept that what we read in the press is 99% drivel from the pens of mediocre writers.
BobTheBuilder
Not wishing to labour the point, JP, but of course not wanting your business to go bust is a given, and I'm very, very sure that MON is as tired of the question as we all are. But what should he respond to a question such as "will/can you compete with ManC in the transfer market". We all know what happens if banal questions like that aren't answered - the hack simply makes up whatever s/he wants instead. Why don't we all accept that what we read in the press is 99% drivel from the pens of mediocre writers.
BobTheBuilder
Baffled by the comments! it's like listening to the little man off twin peaks :0)
ant1ant1
Baffled by the comments! it's like listening to the little man off twin peaks :0)
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