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O'Neill Senses Villa Fans Disappointment

Martin O'Neill says that Villa fans would have accepted 5th and Europe at the start of the season but having flirted with the top four he feels disappointment from fans.

Not to go over old ground but surely if he had taken the UEFA seriously this year AND we'd finished 5th and were in Europe again, there wouldn't be the disappointment?

O'Neill said: 'I think almost having qualified again for Europe has been overlooked. Because we flirted with the top four for a couple of weeks, people have had a bit of false expectation.'

He qualifies that by saying 'You realise the calibre of team we are up against when you see them contesting the quarter-finals and semi-finals of the Champions League each year - and you see the calibre of player those top four clubs possess.' (which is difficult to argue with really!!!) 'It is not just the individual player, because we have a number here that would grace any team, but it is the size of the squad. But we are going to qualify for Europe this season again and, in terms of development, I think the players have done brilliantly.'

He also says along with Fulham Villa have used the fewest players and there is tiredness now creeping in. He has given the midfielders an extra day off this week to rest.

The Villa boss also points to our poor home record as the major problem this season but strangely says it hasn't been form, it has been bad luck?

Talking to the official site he explained: 'During the course of the season, we didn't pick up enough points at home. At the start of the current campaign, you'd have thought that was unlikely. We have won more than our fair share of matches away from home and that speaks volumes for the team. We are not frightened of going to any arena and doing well. Therefore, we have won a significant number of games on the road.'

Adding, 'My own view is that we have been unlucky in a few home games. There have been matches we should have won but we drew. I'm particularly thinking about the games against Wigan, Stoke and Fulham. We should have had six extra points. They are very important at the end of the season.

'From that viewpoint, I think we can improve our home form next season. Some people, cynically, will say - that's not too difficult.'

Happy to say there is no blame towards the fans this time though as he says the atmosphere has been 'fantastic - really brilliant.' And assures us the team do love playing at home 'The fans have come to watch us in their droves and they have stayed with us. They have been brilliant.'

One could almost say terrific...!? :o)




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Writer: J P Fear Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Saturday May 2 2009

Time: 2:31PM

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Blah blah blah! I really think he's missed the point as to why we are *****ed off / annoyed. Either that or he's choosing to ignore it. If we'd come 10th but given everything in all competitions I'd be disappointed but at the same time satisfied that my team had done their best, I'd be able to hold my head high. As it is......
Villan Of The North
Blah blah blah! I really think he's missed the point as to why we are *****ed off / annoyed. Either that or he's choosing to ignore it. If we'd come 10th but given everything in all competitions I'd be disappointed but at the same time satisfied that my team had done their best, I'd be able to hold my head high. As it is......
Villan Of The North
The thing about qualifying for euro league is the way we treated it this season if money is short next season a lot of fans probably will choose premier games and it's well justified too.
chris the villan
The thing about qualifying for euro league is the way we treated it this season if money is short next season a lot of fans probably will choose premier games and it's well justified too.
chris the villan
I used to enjoy the lively debates on this site, but the continual anti MON rhetoric is ruining it. Villan Of the North, you say 'we', but by that i assume you mean the minority of fickle whingers not the die hard fans. If you went to away games you'd reailse that there is not the same sentiment amongst the true villa fans as there is on these boards, which was illustrated by the chanting of Martin O'Neills name for for nearly the whole of half time downstairs at Bolton last week.
Longman
I used to enjoy the lively debates on this site, but the continual anti MON rhetoric is ruining it. Villan Of the North, you say 'we', but by that i assume you mean the minority of fickle whingers not the die hard fans. If you went to away games you'd reailse that there is not the same sentiment amongst the true villa fans as there is on these boards, which was illustrated by the chanting of Martin O'Neills name for for nearly the whole of half time downstairs at Bolton last week.
Longman
Before i start, i class myself as a "die hard" as much as the next man (22 yrs Stkt + maj away) , but i have to agree with Villa of the North. This "must back MON even when he gets it totally wrong" gets on my T*ts. I strong manager would hold his hands up and admit his mistakes, even Alex Fergamoan or Arsen Wingeer has been know to say "i got it wrong". Why treat European quilification as sucsess , then disrespect the competition once we are there? I do not want to get rid of MON as he on the whole has done a good job in stabelizing the ship and making us a consistant top 7 team, but the job is not yet done. MON must learn from the mistakes made if we are to progress further.
HolteEnder43
Before i start, i class myself as a "die hard" as much as the next man (22 yrs Stkt + maj away) , but i have to agree with Villa of the North. This "must back MON even when he gets it totally wrong" gets on my T*ts. I strong manager would hold his hands up and admit his mistakes, even Alex Fergamoan or Arsen Wingeer has been know to say "i got it wrong". Why treat European quilification as sucsess , then disrespect the competition once we are there? I do not want to get rid of MON as he on the whole has done a good job in stabelizing the ship and making us a consistant top 7 team, but the job is not yet done. MON must learn from the mistakes made if we are to progress further.
HolteEnder43
Jesus. Pint half full or pint half empty? Me, I've empties quite a few pints. Up the villa and up the MON.
RiF
Jesus. Pint half full or pint half empty? Me, I've empties quite a few pints. Up the villa and up the MON.
RiF
Yet another attack on MON! Fed up with it, really I am! We are not top 4 material and are work in progress. We have pushed the top 4 this season and come short because we are not quite there yet, but could be. Given faith and natural progression (which we have had under MON season on season!) some quality signings and playing players in their correct positions, with decent home form and a bit of luck, who knows. But the constant whining and critisizing (sp?) just gets on my goat and so many more on this site. Let's not forget that this is a FANS forum and not bitch forum. Yes we are entitled to our opinions but can't the usual few look from a different perspective for once. MON does speak with some sense and we face a massive season next year when expentantcy will be very high, we know that and should start to live up to our billing. I for one am glad that people like VOTN, HE43, Albarnista etc etc do not conduct our dressing room team talks as we would all be FUDGED! Now c'mon guys one and all, UP THE VILLA!
holte ender 1969
Yet another attack on MON! Fed up with it, really I am! We are not top 4 material and are work in progress. We have pushed the top 4 this season and come short because we are not quite there yet, but could be. Given faith and natural progression (which we have had under MON season on season!) some quality signings and playing players in their correct positions, with decent home form and a bit of luck, who knows. But the constant whining and critisizing (sp?) just gets on my goat and so many more on this site. Let's not forget that this is a FANS forum and not bitch forum. Yes we are entitled to our opinions but can't the usual few look from a different perspective for once. MON does speak with some sense and we face a massive season next year when expentantcy will be very high, we know that and should start to live up to our billing. I for one am glad that people like VOTN, HE43, Albarnista etc etc do not conduct our dressing room team talks as we would all be FUDGED! Now c'mon guys one and all, UP THE VILLA!
holte ender 1969
BTW, I now expect to be shot down by some negative comments from negative people..........................ah well god loves a trier!
holte ender 1969
BTW, I now expect to be shot down by some negative comments from negative people..........................ah well god loves a trier!
holte ender 1969
Ha ha, i won't shoot you down mate. Best manager we have had for years and as you say it is work in progress. I sometimes hate sitting amongst the fickle villa fans who sit there every week changing which player to slag off. OK, MON's made mistakes, but we are still in our infancy and will develop year on year. A few bad results doesn't mean get on his back - remember, this is the main who got us into the top four for so long and raised expectations so much. And as for Wenger and Fergie admitting they were wrong - seriously mate, have you been sniffing glue - that NEVER happens. When I was young, i used to dream, of watching the greatest football team. Now I'm here, the dream is real, with randy lerner and Martin O'Neill. Martin O'Neill, Martin O'Neill, Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill............ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UG9MsYFH4o - proper SUPPORTERS, who SUPPORT their club
Longman
Ha ha, i won't shoot you down mate. Best manager we have had for years and as you say it is work in progress. I sometimes hate sitting amongst the fickle villa fans who sit there every week changing which player to slag off. OK, MON's made mistakes, but we are still in our infancy and will develop year on year. A few bad results doesn't mean get on his back - remember, this is the main who got us into the top four for so long and raised expectations so much. And as for Wenger and Fergie admitting they were wrong - seriously mate, have you been sniffing glue - that NEVER happens. When I was young, i used to dream, of watching the greatest football team. Now I'm here, the dream is real, with randy lerner and Martin O'Neill. Martin O'Neill, Martin O'Neill, Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill,Martin O'Neill............ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UG9MsYFH4o - proper SUPPORTERS, who SUPPORT their club
Longman
Amazing! I'm fickle and negative because I am *****ed off at MON throwing away our first European campaign for years? Personally I'd call that the behavior of a fan of the club rather than a fan of the manager. As I said, I'd accept 10th place if I could see that MON and the players had done all they could to uphold the traditions of the club by trying their best in all competitions. As it is he ended up treating the UEFA Cup with disdain in order to pursue the Holy Grail of 4th place. Of course I want CL footy but I'd rather have a European trophy in the cabinet than qualification for a competition we are not yet ready for and no chance of winning. I know we might have lost in Moscow anyway and if we had progressed may have been knocked out in the next round but as it is we will never know as we capitulated. In my opinion that was disgraceful. And for those of you that think I'm negative, I've always been pretty optimistic and am happy we have MON.....for now.
Villan Of The North
Amazing! I'm fickle and negative because I am *****ed off at MON throwing away our first European campaign for years? Personally I'd call that the behavior of a fan of the club rather than a fan of the manager. As I said, I'd accept 10th place if I could see that MON and the players had done all they could to uphold the traditions of the club by trying their best in all competitions. As it is he ended up treating the UEFA Cup with disdain in order to pursue the Holy Grail of 4th place. Of course I want CL footy but I'd rather have a European trophy in the cabinet than qualification for a competition we are not yet ready for and no chance of winning. I know we might have lost in Moscow anyway and if we had progressed may have been knocked out in the next round but as it is we will never know as we capitulated. In my opinion that was disgraceful. And for those of you that think I'm negative, I've always been pretty optimistic and am happy we have MON.....for now.
Villan Of The North
Just a question, if MON can take the credit for our amazing 7 away league win streak, should he not also take responsibility for our amazing 12 game run without a win? Surely if he is happy to take the plaudits he should also be prepared to take some criticism.
Villan Of The North
Just a question, if MON can take the credit for our amazing 7 away league win streak, should he not also take responsibility for our amazing 12 game run without a win? Surely if he is happy to take the plaudits he should also be prepared to take some criticism.
Villan Of The North
the problem is that getting into the top four is one thing, finishing there is practically impossible, MartinOhNo decided that this could be Villas only chance of finishing in the top 4 and decided to gamble on sacrificing uefa cup for this one chance, if he had succeeded you would all be hailing him as a god, but the plan backfired,i think that was your one and only chance because as you may get stronger the strength of Arsenal and Liverpool will also grow, your only hope is if chelsea's ageing team doesnt perform well with its new manager
fran merida
the problem is that getting into the top four is one thing, finishing there is practically impossible, MartinOhNo decided that this could be Villas only chance of finishing in the top 4 and decided to gamble on sacrificing uefa cup for this one chance, if he had succeeded you would all be hailing him as a god, but the plan backfired,i think that was your one and only chance because as you may get stronger the strength of Arsenal and Liverpool will also grow, your only hope is if chelsea's ageing team doesnt perform well with its new manager
fran merida
True Fran, it backfired. Fergie treated the FA Cup with disdain against Everton, as his sights were set on the bigger picture of the league. It happens. Get over it. Chances were we were going out anyway, on a plastic pitch with a long trip to moscow. OK, so we've struggled since, which is unfortunate, but I don't believe our run is a direct result of that decision. Also, I do support the club - but believe MON is key to future success. I am fed up with fans getting on his back, and players backs (eg Gabby - the second top goalscorer in the league from open play) which will only result in a negative response and te potential for players to think 'fu*k this for a game of soldiers, I don't need it, I'm off'. I appreciate opinions, and tbh Villa of the North, I'm not directly having a pop at you it's more the general feeling on the site and the inability to appreciate where MON has taken us from and the fact that we are in a very strong position to finish 5th, which at the start of the season every villa fan would have been pleased with.
Longman
True Fran, it backfired. Fergie treated the FA Cup with disdain against Everton, as his sights were set on the bigger picture of the league. It happens. Get over it. Chances were we were going out anyway, on a plastic pitch with a long trip to moscow. OK, so we've struggled since, which is unfortunate, but I don't believe our run is a direct result of that decision. Also, I do support the club - but believe MON is key to future success. I am fed up with fans getting on his back, and players backs (eg Gabby - the second top goalscorer in the league from open play) which will only result in a negative response and te potential for players to think 'fu*k this for a game of soldiers, I don't need it, I'm off'. I appreciate opinions, and tbh Villa of the North, I'm not directly having a pop at you it's more the general feeling on the site and the inability to appreciate where MON has taken us from and the fact that we are in a very strong position to finish 5th, which at the start of the season every villa fan would have been pleased with.
Longman
I'm not having a go either but just frustrated at the odd comment when on the whole it has been a good season for us. I agree about the Moscow fiasco but we are not the manager and MON made that call. We certainly will live to fight another day! Of course I love to support our club through whatever and its not blind support, just me being optimistic and having faith. VOTN, you made a good comment there re plaudits. However, isn't that life anyways that you take the rough with the smooth but always hold your head up high and stick by your decisions and by that you are a man of you convictions. Not so much a rant but just a mellow discussion.
holte ender 1969
I'm not having a go either but just frustrated at the odd comment when on the whole it has been a good season for us. I agree about the Moscow fiasco but we are not the manager and MON made that call. We certainly will live to fight another day! Of course I love to support our club through whatever and its not blind support, just me being optimistic and having faith. VOTN, you made a good comment there re plaudits. However, isn't that life anyways that you take the rough with the smooth but always hold your head up high and stick by your decisions and by that you are a man of you convictions. Not so much a rant but just a mellow discussion.
holte ender 1969
As a Man City fan I have to applaud you Villains this season. I've always thought you were performing below expectation -- but I find it hard to understand any disappointment with Martin O'Neill. You have a top manager and a great season to build on.
Sindbad
As a Man City fan I have to applaud you Villains this season. I've always thought you were performing below expectation -- but I find it hard to understand any disappointment with Martin O'Neill. You have a top manager and a great season to build on.
Sindbad
"Happy to say there is no blame towards the fans this time" ... ... This time??? The only negative thing he has said IN THREE YEARS is that the ironic cheers/booing didn't help. Other than that he has ALWAYS shown appreciation for the fans - even when the Villa Park crowd was completely unreasonable!!! He has never attacked the fans, called them fickle or blamed them for the team under-performing.... Yet another opportunity for a snipe....
gmvillan
"Happy to say there is no blame towards the fans this time" ... ... This time??? The only negative thing he has said IN THREE YEARS is that the ironic cheers/booing didn't help. Other than that he has ALWAYS shown appreciation for the fans - even when the Villa Park crowd was completely unreasonable!!! He has never attacked the fans, called them fickle or blamed them for the team under-performing.... Yet another opportunity for a snipe....
gmvillan
Nothing at all with how I worded the article gm, it is getting to the point where nothing can be said at all about MON without being lambasted! It wasn't a snipe at all. It quite clearly says he has said the atmosphere has been fantastic etc if I was wanting to snipe I'd not have put down the positive quotes from the manager. Come on, jeez, give some license will you!?!?!? He has said positive things but a few times this year a few negative, he's human like the rest of us and sometimes has a moan and other times gives praise. You don't need to read too much into my comments, there are no hidden meanings there! :o)
The Fear
Nothing at all with how I worded the article gm, it is getting to the point where nothing can be said at all about MON without being lambasted! It wasn't a snipe at all. It quite clearly says he has said the atmosphere has been fantastic etc if I was wanting to snipe I'd not have put down the positive quotes from the manager. Come on, jeez, give some license will you!?!?!? He has said positive things but a few times this year a few negative, he's human like the rest of us and sometimes has a moan and other times gives praise. You don't need to read too much into my comments, there are no hidden meanings there! :o)
The Fear
Yes he made a mistake with europe for god sake move on and support the best manager we have had in the last 10 to 15 Years. UP THE VILLA.
astonsteve
Yes he made a mistake with europe for god sake move on and support the best manager we have had in the last 10 to 15 Years. UP THE VILLA.
astonsteve
My support for the team I love isn't in question steve, I've been going 30 odd years and at least 20 as a season ticket holder. I do nothing not to support them when down there. That doesn't mean I have to move on from anything, it is part of the season and up for discussion. I think we've had other managers just as good, we've just not had owners able to back them. MON has the backing of the fans (even those who dare question some of his decisions from time to time, I've only seen a very very few say they wish he'd leave, less than 1% I'd say.. much less) as do the players (apart from the silly booing which again I'd like to think is only a minority.
The Fear
My support for the team I love isn't in question steve, I've been going 30 odd years and at least 20 as a season ticket holder. I do nothing not to support them when down there. That doesn't mean I have to move on from anything, it is part of the season and up for discussion. I think we've had other managers just as good, we've just not had owners able to back them. MON has the backing of the fans (even those who dare question some of his decisions from time to time, I've only seen a very very few say they wish he'd leave, less than 1% I'd say.. much less) as do the players (apart from the silly booing which again I'd like to think is only a minority.
The Fear
Everyone (or 95% of fans anyway) doesn't want MON to go but a lot are disappointed mainly due to our awful results since we went out of the UEFA cup. All it would take IMHO is for him to come out and say that he feels the same way and to assure the fans that he has learnt from this years exploits both in the top 4 and in Europe. And that he knows what needs to be done and is working on it etc. This is a results business and the last 3 months would have seen many other Chairmen get rid of their manager, its just that a bit of reassurance, not excuse making and talking up other teams would have been the best way to go about it.
Villan444
Everyone (or 95% of fans anyway) doesn't want MON to go but a lot are disappointed mainly due to our awful results since we went out of the UEFA cup. All it would take IMHO is for him to come out and say that he feels the same way and to assure the fans that he has learnt from this years exploits both in the top 4 and in Europe. And that he knows what needs to be done and is working on it etc. This is a results business and the last 3 months would have seen many other Chairmen get rid of their manager, its just that a bit of reassurance, not excuse making and talking up other teams would have been the best way to go about it.
Villan444
 

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