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Mid Table Mediocrity

Mid Table Mediocrity

Why should we as Aston Villa fans be happy with mid table mediocrity?

I regularly read fans telling me that we cannot compete with the top 4 because of this excuse and that excuse.

In 1980 I doubt there were many fans, pundits, analysts who said that Aston Villa would beat the likes of Arsenal, Man Utd, Leeds or Liverpool to the title , but we did.

Now we have a far more exciting club,a club owned and run by what looks to me to be the perfect owner in Randy Lerner. No longer do we have the worry that every quality player we bring through will be transferred to pay for any new players required to take us on.

Yes the top 4 clubs have lived at the top for longer, have grossed millions from their European achievements, their increased capacity grounds and so on, but so what.

In the 3 seasons Randy has been in charge he's encouraged an increase in attendances, we have gained some stability and are almost assured of Premiership survival if nothing else.

Ron Saunders had won a Div 2 promotion, we had some glorious times in the League cup, who can forget the 3 way Everton final but his main push was in the league.

Yes it took him time, it took him several years of carefully and extremely clever transfers, selling players like Gray, Gidman to buy players more suited to his style of team. He didn't have in relative terms the money available today at Villa Park, but he bought players who played, players who replaced existing team mates because they were better. He improved, sometimes only slightly, but he improved each position slowly and carefully, not for him big wedges of money for bench warmers. Yes he sometimes played players out of position, Kenny Swain was never a full back, until Saunders put him there, but against the best he never looked out of place, he did a superb job, but usually each player brought in improved the teams quality.

He learnt quickly, he rarely used his mouth in the press to say much, he rarely smiled, he did his job.

Aston Villa have not always been the also rans, we have, topped the rest in the UK, we even topped the best in Europe, few UK clubs have. So why settle for mid table mediocrity fellow fans, why be happy finishing sixth, seventh, even fifth, why? Why be so complacent, we have a great owner, we have the ambition at the top, so why not. Yes the top 4 have the better base of years of European football, but they aren't perfect, each one has its financial queries, its own restrictions, so why not Aston Villa, other clubs will take the bit and maybe get it right, Man City, Spurs, even Everton if they find an owner with cash.

No, for me we have nearly everything, a great fan base, a great owner, a squad capable of some good football. All we need is to believe we can

Oh and find a decent manager like Ron Saunders to bring it about


Date:Friday April 24 2009
Time: 2:54PM


I think we have realistcly reached as high as we can in the league ie 5th,All we need is a squad capable of winning cups domesticly and in europe.Because talk about 4th all you like but you don`t get a trophy for that.
24/04/2009 14:57:00
Thats definitely the longest post youve made without the words 'O' or 'Neill'
24/04/2009 15:01:00
And after the up and down of previous years getting into europe every season and actually being able to compete properly would be brilliant,Much like the way everton have been doing.
24/04/2009 15:09:00
Hold the front page. 48 has a pop at M'ON exclusive. Yawn! Let me just remind you that he wanted Jurgen Klinsman for the job. This from a man who was regular supporter in the era's he talks about, but who very seldom attends nowadays. Very symptomatic of the negativity that permeates the crowd at Villa Park. As I have said on many occasions, the biggest off field challenge facing the clubs owners is making the fans contribute to the clubs success rather than fight against it.
24/04/2009 15:15:00
LOL... talk about a constant agenda... seriously, get some counselling.
24/04/2009 15:17:00
Gone are the days of Saunders-esque managers - (maybe only SAF fits that mould) - the only manager that resembles Saunders in facial features and voice is Dave Jones of Cardiff (listen and look very carefully at hom) - but that don't count as he is no where near Saunders calibre, but anything to have a pop at MON directly or indirectly seems to be the norm for some people.
24/04/2009 15:44:00
We are not mid table you plonker we are 5th, which is very good and aspiring to be better. You AVFC 48 ARE THE BIGGEST MOANER OF THEM ALL FOCK OFF TO THE YAM YAMS OR THE STY WE DONT NEED YOUR MOANING AT OUR GREAT CLUB. UP THE VILLA.
24/04/2009 15:51:00
Astonsteve, They sent him back - he was too positive for them ;o)
24/04/2009 15:55:00
48 is right, to some extent. To be in a league is to aspire to winning it. We should not settle for anything less than FIRST! Practically speaking though, we need to build towards our ultimate goal (world domination). We need to build over a period of years, just like Saunders. And most importantly, we need MoN to be here doing that. UTV SOTC MI5
24/04/2009 17:13:00
Completely agree with avfc48 on this one. It is a fact that anything below 4th constitutes mid-table mediocrity, because of the disgraceful downgrading of the UEFA Cup by UEFA themselves. Sometimes it's best to pretend that these competitions matter, but the pretence is over for Villa. MoN ensured that. Personally, I wouldn't be happy with finishing 4th every season either. But the fact is that the CL is where the money is, and we need money to build a team and a club that can compete for the top honours. And in my view, avfc48 is spot on about us needing to believe to do it. That belief needs to come from the top. I don't know whether Lerner believes, but the very strong impression I get is that MoN doesn't believe anymore - if he ever did in the first place.
24/04/2009 17:38:00
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